The Rating System is going to be changing..
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Okay, we've made posts and news items trying to get people to rate things in a reasonable manner but all have failed.
As someone else correctly wrote, the rating system here is a JOKE.
There are basically two problems: People who rate everything high and griefers who go around sabotaging other people's ratings.
The new system WILL work as follows. Yes, most of you will be ticked off for different reasons. Tough. The system is broken, we're going to fix it. Play time is over. It will work this way:
There will be a WEIGHT used to calculate the ratings. A rating by a citizen will counts a 1Xtheir rating. An apprentice 2X their rating, Master Apprentice 3X their rating and so on.
So when an admin or moderator rates a skin, it matters. Now, the default rating from moderation will still only count as a weight of 1. But as people deliberately put in the effort to rate something, it will matter.
Yes, it's unfair. It's unequal, whatever. But the current system has become meaningless.
I have seen excellent ObjectDock icons get ratings of 4 because some griefer comes along and gives a bunch of them 1 totally counter balancing an admin rating of 7 (where the admin in question makes icons for a living).
I'm not sure when we'll get to this. It's pretty high on the priority list. This will probably result in a more skins going down in rating than skins going up in rating. A rating of 5 is an average looking skin. NOT 8. Some people seem to rate things as if anything under an 8 is bad. No, 5 is AVERAGE. Most skins should be rated at around a 5. Not 8.
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Reply #22 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:13 PM
Give people a test or a task to perform with the worst they can do is 1 and the best they can do is 10 and most people will get a 7(not a 5)
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Reply #23 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:19 PM
| Give people a test or a task to perform with the worst they can do is 1 and the best they can do is 10 and most people will get a 7(not a 5) |
Only if the difficulty of the test or task is slanted to record that result.
I can give you a task that 'could' result in that kind of 'average' being close to zero.
Try this.....name the survivors of the Titanic and give their home addresses....
Reply #24 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:21 PM
In apportioning marks or ratings, if they start at 1 and end at 10 then the REAL average is 5.5 which in the case of this site is rounded up to 6.
It's as simple as that....
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Reply #28 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:27 PM
Well I hope this takes some pressure away from rating. I used to download and rate and comment a lot and then everything got so intense. Mostly these days I only rate things that I have tested for people (or for people I have tested things for previously) and I know I am probably a little biased. I always feel guilty about the pieces I don't dl and test... that never seemed fair either (that a person more well-known might get more ratings in general than an unknown -- but there are only so many skins you can dl and test) I do plan to start being more diligent, though, when things are settled down more here. Still, I feel guilty when I rate one thing and not another. It is hard to know what is right. I have found Paxx's skin evaluation guide a great help. http://pax.gslcom.com/ratings/rating.html
Actually, this may be silly but evaluating things, balancing the social pressure with the desire to be fair and feeling like I was failing miserably at that really took a lot of the fun away from WC. Then again, it only feels a little better downloading, using, enjoying stuff without commenting and rating.
Reply #29 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:29 PM
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Reply #31 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 PM
Tiggz wanders away muttering "5.5=6, 5.5=6, 5.5=6..."
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:36 PM
FEEDBACK PLEASE: What all should we take into consideration whenn rating. Skin complexity? Skinner skill level? What?
Or am I just nuts.
Reply #33 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 PM
| #24 by Admin Jafo - 1/27/2004 11:21:39 PM In apportioning marks or ratings, if they start at 1 and end at 10 then the REAL average is 5.5 which in the case of this site is rounded up to 6. |
at first I was like:
Jafo... not you! Are you loosing it???
but I just realized that in order for the average to be 5 the ratings would have to go down to 0
Average between 0 and 10.
anyway, I guess this is the way to go. we will see if the weighted system is better than the system we have now.
Reply #34 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:42 PM
I think that a '1' is something you consider impossible to live with, and a '10' is something you believe is impossible to better.
Everything [approved] falls between these two extremes.
How an individual determines where a work fits between these is down to personal preference and opinion....
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Reply #36 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 PM
This is not directed at you, but at anyone that rates based on the screenshot.
Reply #37 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:47 PM
I love their work!
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Reply #40 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:52 PM
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Reply #21 Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:03 PM
crosses fingers and hopes for the best!!