Question for those who know about drinking problems
Wednesday, January 21, 2004 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
My question is this: Is it posssible to distroy your Liver by drinking to much?
For example: A guy I am working with seems to have glassy eyes most of the time and almost always seems to have an odor.
Now this odor isn't of liquir but it seems it is of just a special kind of funk. Not under arm but some sort of... I don't know. Funk.
Can it be possible that this person can possibly be drinking in order to stay alive because his Liver is use to it?
Help guys!!!
For example: A guy I am working with seems to have glassy eyes most of the time and almost always seems to have an odor.
Now this odor isn't of liquir but it seems it is of just a special kind of funk. Not under arm but some sort of... I don't know. Funk.
Can it be possible that this person can possibly be drinking in order to stay alive because his Liver is use to it?
Help guys!!!
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joetheblow
Reply #23 Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:00 PM
Reply #23 Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:00 PM
Yes Jinn Fizz, it is important to me to try to find some help for the guy. I think he has the experience to do the job.
Well, tomorrow I am going to the main office to fully explain myself.
The only thing bothering me know is the body odor thing. I am trying to convince someone at work who knows him longer to ask him about it.
Well, tomorrow I am going to the main office to fully explain myself.
The only thing bothering me know is the body odor thing. I am trying to convince someone at work who knows him longer to ask him about it.
Styl-X Design
Reply #24 Friday, January 23, 2004 3:06 AM
Reply #24 Friday, January 23, 2004 3:06 AM
JTB, Its like smoking, the liver don't need alcohol and so don't your longs need smoke/nicotine. They do destroy them tought...
NightTrainthedark
Reply #25 Friday, January 23, 2004 6:14 AM
Reply #25 Friday, January 23, 2004 6:14 AM
Just thought I would ad 1 thing. Glassy eyes and a "funky" odor are common symptoms of smoking opium. The stench will stick with you all day. Its a really odd stench also. Sorry to jump in now but I just had a hunch. I am no expert but I also believe that opium calms the DT's from alcohol and other stuff.
Styl-X Design
Reply #26 Friday, January 23, 2004 11:46 AM
Reply #26 Friday, January 23, 2004 11:46 AM
Opium? Are you sure you aren't meaning canabis? (weed, or whatever you call it?)
joetheblow
Reply #27 Friday, January 23, 2004 3:27 PM
Reply #27 Friday, January 23, 2004 3:27 PM
I spoke to the human resource people and they made me feel a little better about the situation. they seem to know about what is going on in some detail.
I feel better knowing that they know there is a problem with him. I just hope they actually HELP him as opposed to firing him.
I feel better knowing that they know there is a problem with him. I just hope they actually HELP him as opposed to firing him.
joetheblow
Reply #28 Friday, January 23, 2004 3:40 PM
Reply #28 Friday, January 23, 2004 3:40 PM
I hope to God it is not drugs. the last thing I need to is be taking orders from a guy who is stoned out.
I am hoping it is some sort of after effect of a drug he has to take or something.
I am hoping it is some sort of after effect of a drug he has to take or something.
Corio
Reply #29 Friday, January 23, 2004 6:15 PM
Reply #29 Friday, January 23, 2004 6:15 PM
Hey, take it easy - its just someone you work with that you don't like, right? You don't come up with a a lot of facts
, let's not overanalyze this guy.
, let's not overanalyze this guy.
DesignCaddy
Reply #31 Friday, January 23, 2004 8:26 PM
Reply #31 Friday, January 23, 2004 8:26 PM
mm i think some of you are thinking backwards.. its not that he can't produce glucose, its that he can't absorb glucose..
diabetics have a fruity odored breath if their blood sugar is too high. if he is overweight, fat inhibits the body's ability to break down sugar (type 2 diabetic). other things, even genetics and natural causes, can lead to a type 1 diabetes where a persons body simply can no longer naturally break down sugar. one thing he should not be doing is drinking more... beer contain fructose and carbohydrates and alcohol in general.. will just make things harder.
reminds me of trainspotting.."see the headaches kept getting worse, so he just kept dulling the pain by taking more smack.. till one day it just happened.." 'what?' "a stroke.. a #@^!ing stroke... who new you could get noxopalaxoma from cat #!%@."
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diabetics have a fruity odored breath if their blood sugar is too high. if he is overweight, fat inhibits the body's ability to break down sugar (type 2 diabetic). other things, even genetics and natural causes, can lead to a type 1 diabetes where a persons body simply can no longer naturally break down sugar. one thing he should not be doing is drinking more... beer contain fructose and carbohydrates and alcohol in general.. will just make things harder.
reminds me of trainspotting.."see the headaches kept getting worse, so he just kept dulling the pain by taking more smack.. till one day it just happened.." 'what?' "a stroke.. a #@^!ing stroke... who new you could get noxopalaxoma from cat #!%@."
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joetheblow
Reply #32 Friday, January 23, 2004 8:56 PM
Reply #32 Friday, January 23, 2004 8:56 PM
I think he is a nice dude... it just the professional part I don't like ESPECIALLY since he actually has the ability to do the job right.
DesignCaddy
Reply #33 Friday, January 23, 2004 9:05 PM
Reply #33 Friday, January 23, 2004 9:05 PM
heheh.. i had a buddy who worked at starbucks.. i wouldn't say he had a drinking problem.. he never had a problem walking away from a drink.. he just loved to drink!! well hell, he's irish. so he'd go out on a break or go to lunch and have a few beers.. and he'd make the best coffees, drunk.
joetheblow
Reply #34 Friday, January 23, 2004 9:11 PM
Reply #34 Friday, January 23, 2004 9:11 PM
I probably would not have so much of a problem with him if it wasn't for the fact that the business we are in a mistake can cost someone their lives (or serious injury).
Not cool.
Not cool.
Rutabaga64
Reply #36 Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:11 AM
Reply #36 Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:11 AM
I'm glad things seemed to go well with the HR people...hopefully things will change for the better, both for you, and for him. 
IPlural
Reply #37 Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:57 AM
Reply #37 Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:57 AM
Most people who have had a problem with drinking for an extended period of time actually will find their niche and do that specific task very well from what I have read and heard with talking to some in that exact position.
It has something to do with security in knowing that they can in fact claim drinking does not interfere with their job performance and it also lends to people looking the other way or backing up the claim that "Yes Billy Bob Ray has a drinking problem but that is a personal problem and it doesn't impact performance so we do not belong getting involved"
Except when the benders take place, the days where they call in sick or start coming in late and so forth.
Much of the time they will find a position where they answer to very few people and they tend to become fast and close friends with those above them, or suck up to the point that they are thought indispensable.
It is good to read that HR has some idea of what is taking place without a doubt. Many companys now offer assistance to employees to get a handle on such situations if they are willing to take them up on it.
I do hope for his sake and your for different reasons of course, that whatever the issue happens to be. It is worked out and if he does have a medical problem, addiction being medical also, it turns around for him and improves...
luck you Joe and co-worker...
It has something to do with security in knowing that they can in fact claim drinking does not interfere with their job performance and it also lends to people looking the other way or backing up the claim that "Yes Billy Bob Ray has a drinking problem but that is a personal problem and it doesn't impact performance so we do not belong getting involved"
Except when the benders take place, the days where they call in sick or start coming in late and so forth.
Much of the time they will find a position where they answer to very few people and they tend to become fast and close friends with those above them, or suck up to the point that they are thought indispensable.
It is good to read that HR has some idea of what is taking place without a doubt. Many companys now offer assistance to employees to get a handle on such situations if they are willing to take them up on it.
I do hope for his sake and your for different reasons of course, that whatever the issue happens to be. It is worked out and if he does have a medical problem, addiction being medical also, it turns around for him and improves...
luck you Joe and co-worker...
joetheblow
Reply #38 Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:59 PM
Reply #38 Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:59 PM
I hope it works out in the end. I don't want to see him fired (although I thought about it a few times PARTICULARLY after one incident).
I just think he needs some help for his personal life because it is effecting the site we all are working at. (And over all safety... since that is what we are there for it seems sort of weird that we are the problem when it comes to the safety)
I just think he needs some help for his personal life because it is effecting the site we all are working at. (And over all safety... since that is what we are there for it seems sort of weird that we are the problem when it comes to the safety)
Doreen
Reply #39 Saturday, January 24, 2004 1:24 PM
Reply #39 Saturday, January 24, 2004 1:24 PM
In a job where safety is an issue one warning is all he should get (most places won't even offer that where safety of others is an issue) but everyone deserves one warning atleast and if other ppl are not at stake maybe even more warnings can help change a person...
as far as glossy eyes goes he could even be dusted on angel dust or something who knows that odor is funky w/ peppermint at the end of the funk, the first time you see someone eyes on that and smell that you will never forget it.
as far as glossy eyes goes he could even be dusted on angel dust or something who knows that odor is funky w/ peppermint at the end of the funk, the first time you see someone eyes on that and smell that you will never forget it.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:30 PM
I also lost my only brother a little over 10 years ago, and his death was at least partially due to the fact that he was an extremely high-functioning alcoholic.
While your co-worker might be "somebody's baby," your concerns about his well-being really should be reported to your superiors. If he has already made some mistakes on the job, possibly due to his being drunk on the job, you bear a heavy burden, but one that cannot be ignored. I hate to sound harsh, but if you keep quiet and then someone is injured or otherwise badly affected by his actions, it's gonna be a hell of a thing living with the knowledge that you could have prevented it
You could also be doing him a very big favor...perhaps he's diabetic and doesn't realize it. Or perhaps being faced with some kind of intervention might finally make him admit that he has a problem, and he'll do something to change it.
Just present it to your superiors in a way that makes it clear that you're concerned about this man's well-being and the well-being of everyone around you...make sure they understand that you're not doing it to be mean, petty, vindictive, or any other assorted negative emotion. It's clear to me that you're concerned for all the right reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.