Phew.. I am on old Ryzen 5 2600 and look like it support those two.

Thank you,

Basj,
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Phew.. I am on old Ryzen 5 2600 and look like it support those two.



 

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Glad to hear it!   

Typical Microsoft.   

I am all set up too as my PC was bought Brand new about 2 months ago, all Hardware requirements matched.

You article is certainly right Doc, ingenious peeps will negate the need for such HW requirements with 3rd party tools and apps, just like they did with the original HW Requirements for Win 11 (TPM Module etc..)

"Not Bypassable"  is just the phrase they need to peak there interest, Almost Everything MS does that peeps do not like can be reversed. I remember all the fuss about HW Reqs for Win 11, a lot of doom and gloom in forums from peeps who thought it was the end of the line for there PC, even though it ran Win 10 flawlessly, Then Rufus was modified to remove the need for all those HW Reqs, I even posted a Tutorial. You have even linked a similar thing Doc Now. The boot menu can always be manipulated too, so as not to crash your PC, the check will just be bypassed.

I still Have my old PC , the one i was running 2 X Win 11 OSs on, even though it did not meet HW Reqs. I will Install 22H4 on that PC(when released) and on a older Laptop, to dismiss any concerns. Anything MS does can be changed, the only way to stop this is by Locking every single file, and although this would stop modifications from 3rd party apps, it would stop the OS from working and interacting with 3rd party apps and programs, and as such, would not work as an Operating System.

Regarding it "not being bypassable" I expect there will be a strong effort to prove them wrong.

If it's a matter of the CPU architecture, as I understand it, it'll be like them trying to turn a supermarket into a bridge but there isn't much of a chance they'll succeed.

And So It Begins. Any and every System File can be edited in any OS, 22H4 will be No different. Right now individuals and Groups will be reading various articles, and there minds will already be thinking "If They Do This, We Will Do That". They will be solving the issues prior to the issues becoming real.

Victechnical , You Are 1000% Correct as Its Already Begun. Next Year we will be seeing Topics all over the Net, showing 22H4 working on Ancient Systems that have been modified to run it. We seen the same with Windows 11, Its like Sport to these peeps. Some of us do not like being told by MS, what PCs we can run there software on, so we do something about it, this is the way of the computing world, always has been.

Here is a list of Processors which support POPCNT from Wikipedia. It looks like the earliest supported processors go back to 2007 (seventeen years ago).

Intel
Silvermont processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Goldmont processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Goldmont Plus processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Tremont processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Penryn processors (SSE4.1 supported, except Pentium Dual-Core and Celeron)
Nehalem processors and Westmere processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported, except Pentium and Celeron)
Sandy Bridge processors and newer (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported, include Pentium and Celeron)
Haswell processors and newer (SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)

AMD
K10-based processors (SSE4a, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
"Cat" low-power processors
Bobcat-based processors (SSE4a, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Jaguar-based processors and newer (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Puma-based processors and newer (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
"Heavy Equipment" processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Bulldozer-based processors
Piledriver-based processors[18]
Steamroller-based processors
Excavator-based processors and newer
Zen-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Zen+-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Zen2-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Zen3-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
VIA
Nano 3000, X2, QuadCore processors (SSE4.1 supported)
Nano QuadCore C4000-series processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 supported)
Eden X4 processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 supported)
Zhaoxin
ZX-C processors and newer (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 supported)

My PC is also doomed by 24H2.   I am really p++++d off by the cavalry way MS treats its customers.

I am unable to afford a new computer so will be doomed to stay forever with Win 10 Pro.

The Wikipedia may or may not have the full list. CPU-Z is a tiny utility and will give the answer. Tom's hardware notes:

"Windows expert Bob Pony reports on X (formally Twitter) that Windows 11 24H2's new PopCnt instruction requirement cannot be bypassed under any circumstances. PopCnt is a CPU instruction Windows 11 24H2 requires that is not required in outgoing iterations of Windows 11."

The article is quite clear that POPCNT is quite unlike W11's prior requirements which could be finangled. However, while there's room to test for POPCNT in older machines, if your computer is recent it probably has POPCNT. It's so easy to test that risking problems doesn't make sense.

I cant imagine that computer with a processor that's older than 17 years would run 24H2 very well even if it was compatible. There are a couple of POPCNT emulators, but that sounds very risky even if it would work.

I'm all set. Have the required set up. I ran CPU-Z and saw SSE4.2 in, instructions. This is a fairly new computer.

Exactly. A two core abacus from 17 plus years ago won't run 24H2 any more than a three speed Schwinn will beat a Ferrari. And that's reality. No third party software will change the PopCnt W11 24H2 requirement. Period.

If anyone suggests hacking W11 to remove that requirement, he should do it on a site other than an SD one.

well, since I have a Intel Core 15 4590 running at 3.3 ghz.........I'm stuck on Win 10. And that's ok. I'm quite happy with Windows 10, version 1903. I don't really feel the need to update. 

Until Oct. 14, 2025...that's the end of support for W10. I think I read that continued support will be available for pay, though.

edit: Here's the announcement from Windows Central: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-10/microsoft-announces-paid-subscription-for-windows-10-users-who-want-os-updates-beyond-2025

This is an example of a perfectly fine processor. I believe it beats the newer Intel Celeron cpu's by a pretty large margin. The funny thing is the Celeron chips are clear to run 24h2.

Edit - it does look that your cpu is clear to run 24h2 without the new boot crash error. It would still requires a few security checks to be bypassed... Basically nothing will change at all with this cpu between now and 24h2.

Too many times on the net and in forums, the phrase "It Can Not Be Done" is bandied around, then later a fix or workaround in published and all of a sudden "It Can Be Done". POPCNT will be no different. The Article Itself Says "unless they figure out a way to bypass the POPCNT requirement as well." This will happen, and the reason i am so sure is because its happened before, not once but multiple times. Time will tell on this one, just like it did previously.

Windows 10 - 1903 reached end of service on Dec. 8, 2020. You should at least consider updating to Windows 10 - 19045, so that your machine is protected with security updates. Just sayin'...

Perhaps. Thing is, I like the transparency, the fluent design of the old "Edge" browser. I don't use the new Edge that is based on Chrome. I have a rotation of various browsers, Firefox, Brave and Vivaldi, and to a lesser extent, Pale Moon. And Epic is another. Would be nice to have the weather on the taskbar though. Part of me is a little concerned because in the past I have updated, and got hit with the pinwheel of death that I was afraid was going to brick one of my laptops that I don't really use anymore. Could be that I updated too soon, wheras now that update has been out for quite a while, and there should be no bugs or problems or issues. Perhaps you are right. 

Actually, he's definitely correct. Using old/not updated software is a rather large vulnerability in your security.