WB4 Beta Bug List (Mods Plz Move as Required)
Sunday, January 11, 2004 by JeffBDVS | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Just a couple of bugs in the new beta for WB4:
1. Certain app windows (like SDC) and child windows (Adobe Encore DVD) do not roll all the way up if a rollup control is clicked.
2. Certain MDI window backgrounds (PS7, AE6, PS Elements 2) do not skin.
3. Utility windows accessed from the TuneUp Utilities integrator do not skin.
Anyone else seeing these issues? Each of them represent a loss of functionality from the previous release version 4.20.017
Jeff
1. Certain app windows (like SDC) and child windows (Adobe Encore DVD) do not roll all the way up if a rollup control is clicked.
2. Certain MDI window backgrounds (PS7, AE6, PS Elements 2) do not skin.
3. Utility windows accessed from the TuneUp Utilities integrator do not skin.
Anyone else seeing these issues? Each of them represent a loss of functionality from the previous release version 4.20.017
Jeff
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kongit
Reply #2 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:40 AM
Reply #2 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:40 AM
more issues. sometimes when you come out of hibernate some of the parts of the skin turn black. mostly in the start menu. If you reload the blind then the black goes away. and this bug has been there a while. and I haven't noticed any of the problems you listed jeff, but then I haven't really looked. the black thing is pretty darn obvious.
JeffBDVS
Reply #3 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:47 AM
Possibly, but the same skins work like they should in 4.20.017.
I've noticed this at times also, but I haven't been able to pin it down to in/out hibernate. For me, it occurs rarely and randomly, so I'm not going to be much help in squashing this one.
Jeff
Reply #3 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:47 AM
| Maybe it's just a skin problem |
Possibly, but the same skins work like they should in 4.20.017.
| some of the parts of the skin turn black |
I've noticed this at times also, but I haven't been able to pin it down to in/out hibernate. For me, it occurs rarely and randomly, so I'm not going to be much help in squashing this one.
Jeff
kongit
Reply #4 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:50 AM
Reply #4 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:50 AM
it just happens to me with the hibernate thingy. I have heard that microsoft did some silly things with it and it isn't as reliable as it could be so it might be a problem with hibernate and not windowblinds.
of course the black thing could have happened at other times but this is the only time that I have noticed it
of course the black thing could have happened at other times but this is the only time that I have noticed it
JeffBDVS
Reply #5 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:52 AM
Reply #5 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:52 AM
P.S.
Is there a better place to post/send issues that may be bugs? I'm not sure if support@stardock is the right place.
Dazed and confused,
Jeff
Is there a better place to post/send issues that may be bugs? I'm not sure if support@stardock is the right place.
Dazed and confused,
Jeff
Koasati
Reply #6 Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:26 PM
Reply #6 Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:26 PM
I'm having rollup issues as well........ no 2 windows seem to rollup the same. SDC rollsup to half a window, etc.....
| Is there a better place to post/send issues that may be bugs? I'm not sure if support@stardock is the right place. |
several newsgroups here......... probably the best place to report bugs.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #7 Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:50 PM
Reply #7 Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:50 PM
The screen edge clip isn't working. It's following the default '4' for the frame top instead of what I've set in SS 
kona0197
Reply #8 Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:59 PM
Reply #8 Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:59 PM
Why rollup at all? It is easier for me to maximize/minimize.
Koasati
Reply #9 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:15 PM
Reply #9 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:15 PM
Kona...... you do it your way, and I'll do it mine.... I don't use rollup instead of minimize, I use for different reasons, and I love it. 
I don't use rollup instead of minimize, I use for different reasons, and I love it. 
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #10 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:26 PM
Reply #10 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:26 PM
Are there any uses for rollup other than for people with hidden taskbars?Just curious ,I put it in the skins now but I never use it.There is a setting in the WB config that allows you to set this option for all skins and all windows regardless of whether there is a button.
Koasati
Reply #11 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:36 PM
Reply #11 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:36 PM
I guess the answer is yes, coz my taskbar isn't hidden, and I use rollup all the time. But as I was saying to Kona, I don't use it to replace minimize. It has it's uses, for me anyway.
As far as having a button for it, I don't need one, right-click on the titlebar is set for all skins.
kona0197
Reply #12 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:52 PM
Reply #12 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:52 PM
Koa, not all skins support that do they? Maybe I need to mess with my config.
Koasati
Reply #13 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:56 PM
Reply #13 Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:56 PM
Open WB config > User Overrides > Advanced Settings > whatever you set there works on all skins.
JeffBDVS
Reply #15 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:16 PM
Adobe Photoshop and Encore DVD are two prime examples where several modules/documents are open at the same time (and I don't mean the palettes) and a rollup of the child windows works great as opposed to a minimize. At least in my workflow.
Jeff
Reply #15 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:16 PM
| Are there any uses for rollup other than for people with hidden taskbars?Just curious , |
Adobe Photoshop and Encore DVD are two prime examples where several modules/documents are open at the same time (and I don't mean the palettes) and a rollup of the child windows works great as opposed to a minimize. At least in my workflow.
Jeff
Shameless Designs
Reply #16 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:26 AM
Reply #16 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:26 AM
I'm not sure if this is related to the latest WB4 beta build, because I didn't have the problem for a few days after installing that, but after I just updated Skin Studio and Icon Developer and Icon packager, all of a sudden the text on all desktop icons no longer has a transparent background. I've tried everything I could think of to get it back, but I still have those ugly little solid color boxes behind the icon text. I'm completely stumped as to what's causing it. Any suggestions, other than trying to revert to a previous build?
I too have noticed the random-size rollup problem mentioned above, and have had several instances of Start panel menus turning black, although in each case of black menu, closing and reopening the menu corrected the problem.
I too have noticed the random-size rollup problem mentioned above, and have had several instances of Start panel menus turning black, although in each case of black menu, closing and reopening the menu corrected the problem.
goodmorphing
Reply #17 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:33 AM
me too. Some i minimize, not appropriate for all.
One thing, if I am using two dif browsers, i roll them up and alternate. The other windows i have open, some end up minimize. To alternate browsers quickly, roll ups one stacked below the other works best for me. Other reasons too. SOmetimes I need to act quick.
Reply #17 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:33 AM
| Kona...... you do it your way, and I'll do it mine.... I don't use rollup instead of minimize, I use for different reasons, and I love it. |
me too. Some i minimize, not appropriate for all.
One thing, if I am using two dif browsers, i roll them up and alternate. The other windows i have open, some end up minimize. To alternate browsers quickly, roll ups one stacked below the other works best for me. Other reasons too. SOmetimes I need to act quick.
goodmorphing
Reply #18 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:36 AM
Reply #18 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:36 AM
Er.... some of the exclusions seem to fall back on previous versions, i.e. WMP and Quicken.. I deleted the WMP exclusion (if you use corporate WMP skin it applies the wb that you are using and you can roll it up above any window you have open... that roll-up thing again) so that is fine. I cant find the exclusion for quicken.... i just roll another window over it when I need sudden privacy. (Instant messaging too) but it was really nice to see quicken skinned
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goodmorphing
Reply #19 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:44 AM
Reply #19 Monday, January 12, 2004 1:44 AM
BTW.. for me, a quick double-click and it is always on top (or not) and a quick alternate click and it is rolled up... no need to go rummaging in amongst the minimized windows for the ones you use most.
kona0197
Reply #20 Monday, January 12, 2004 12:29 PM
Reply #20 Monday, January 12, 2004 12:29 PM
I just click the windows name in the taskbar and it minimizes. another click and it maximizes. I can't see how the rollup would help me, when a window is rolled up it is still on the desktop and that bugs me. If I don't want a window open, the only place i want it is on the taskbar at the bottom.
But thats just my 2 cents.
But thats just my 2 cents.
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Reply #1 Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:39 AM