Football Thread (real football, not the faux macho stuff)
Saturday, January 3, 2004 by macrobaye | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Seeing as an NFL thread was started, I'd like to start a football thread (soccer) for all those football enthusiasts out there.
I guess I'll start the discussion off by talking about American players in the Premiership.
I think the best American player in the Premier League would have to be Timmy Howard (affectionately called T-Ho). T-Ho is, IMHO, the best keeper in the League, and one of the best in the world, going neck in neck with Brad Friedel (American) and Kahn (German, duh).
Also, a hot rumor topic, is Clint Mathis, the star American player who just left the Metrostars, and now isn't signed to a team OR league! I've heard some rumors, and these ARE just rumors, but I've heard that the Premier League, Man U in particular, is interested. That would be amazing! I's good to see that American soccer is getting a good nod...we've always been recognized for our keepers, but now with Mathis available, and McBride's recent loan at Everton, I think the strikers are becoming known too!
Let's get this going!
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I guess I'll start the discussion off by talking about American players in the Premiership.
I think the best American player in the Premier League would have to be Timmy Howard (affectionately called T-Ho). T-Ho is, IMHO, the best keeper in the League, and one of the best in the world, going neck in neck with Brad Friedel (American) and Kahn (German, duh).
Also, a hot rumor topic, is Clint Mathis, the star American player who just left the Metrostars, and now isn't signed to a team OR league! I've heard some rumors, and these ARE just rumors, but I've heard that the Premier League, Man U in particular, is interested. That would be amazing! I's good to see that American soccer is getting a good nod...we've always been recognized for our keepers, but now with Mathis available, and McBride's recent loan at Everton, I think the strikers are becoming known too!
Let's get this going!
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Jafo
Reply #22 Sunday, January 4, 2004 6:54 AM
Reply #22 Sunday, January 4, 2004 6:54 AM
America can lay claim to the biggest single event live spectator motor race....Indy 500.
Interestingly the second biggest was the 1995 [final] Australian Grand Prix in Adelaide....ticket sales ceased at 205,000 [venue limit].
Biggest live viewing 'trackside' of any 'racing' event is the Tour de France [though that is not a one day thing]....
wombat_1
Reply #23 Sunday, January 4, 2004 8:38 AM
Point of order Jafo.
Indy 500 ceased to be a 'motor race' after Tony George and the 'Idiot Racing League' took over .... or maybe that should be the 'Ugly Racing League'.... those cars make the Effwun Cookie Cutter cars look (almost) attractive.
Good Soccer is very entertaining IMHO .... and AFL has gone down the tube ever since the VFL became a 'National' league.
When did they ever play 'Football' at the Superbowl????
There's always a horde of dancing girls and guys in clown suits but SFA football!
Australia getting 'thrashed' .... more like self-immolation!
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Reply #23 Sunday, January 4, 2004 8:38 AM
| America can lay claim to the biggest single event live spectator motor race....Indy 500. |
Point of order Jafo.
Indy 500 ceased to be a 'motor race' after Tony George and the 'Idiot Racing League' took over .... or maybe that should be the 'Ugly Racing League'.... those cars make the Effwun Cookie Cutter cars look (almost) attractive.
Good Soccer is very entertaining IMHO .... and AFL has gone down the tube ever since the VFL became a 'National' league.
When did they ever play 'Football' at the Superbowl????
There's always a horde of dancing girls and guys in clown suits but SFA football!
Australia getting 'thrashed' .... more like self-immolation!
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Keith Perry
Reply #24 Sunday, January 4, 2004 8:59 AM
Reply #24 Sunday, January 4, 2004 8:59 AM
Super Bowl most watched event in '03
By Dex McLuskey
Bloomberg News
January's Super Bowl between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Oakland Raiders was the most-watched sports event on television in 2003, according to a report by media company Initiative.
The National Football League showpiece attracted 92 million viewers in the 44 countries surveyed. It beat the European Champions League soccer final, with 79 million, into second place, said Kevin Alavy, who compiled the report for London-based Initiative.
The numbers were less than half last year's winner, the soccer World Cup final between Brazil and Germany, which had a global audience of 217 million. Initiative compiles the data for clients planning sports marketing campaigns.
"It makes quite a difference to the numbers when there's an event like the World Cup or the Olympics," Alavy said in an interview. "Some of these events, like the Super Bowl, are very costly to advertise in."
An advertisement during the Super Bowl can cost more than $2 million. About 96 percent of Super Bowl viewers were in the U.S., according to Initiative's figures.
The Champions League final may have attracted a bigger audience had the game not been contested between two Italian teams, Alavy said. AC Milan beat Juventus in the final.
In third place was the Brazilian Grand Prix, with 56 million armchair fans, followed by the 100 meters men's final at the World Athletics Championships, on 32 million. About 27 million watched Lance Armstrong gain a record-equaling fifth title on the last day of the Tour de France.
England's Rugby World Cup final victory over Australia was the sixth most-watched event, with a global audience of 23 million. Cricket's World Cup climax, between Australia and India, was next, with 20 million viewers, and was followed by the Wimbledon men's tennis final, with 15 million.
Game six of the National Basketball Association final between San Antonio and New Jersey was ninth, with 12 million viewers.
By Dex McLuskey
Bloomberg News
January's Super Bowl between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Oakland Raiders was the most-watched sports event on television in 2003, according to a report by media company Initiative.
The National Football League showpiece attracted 92 million viewers in the 44 countries surveyed. It beat the European Champions League soccer final, with 79 million, into second place, said Kevin Alavy, who compiled the report for London-based Initiative.
The numbers were less than half last year's winner, the soccer World Cup final between Brazil and Germany, which had a global audience of 217 million. Initiative compiles the data for clients planning sports marketing campaigns.
"It makes quite a difference to the numbers when there's an event like the World Cup or the Olympics," Alavy said in an interview. "Some of these events, like the Super Bowl, are very costly to advertise in."
An advertisement during the Super Bowl can cost more than $2 million. About 96 percent of Super Bowl viewers were in the U.S., according to Initiative's figures.
The Champions League final may have attracted a bigger audience had the game not been contested between two Italian teams, Alavy said. AC Milan beat Juventus in the final.
In third place was the Brazilian Grand Prix, with 56 million armchair fans, followed by the 100 meters men's final at the World Athletics Championships, on 32 million. About 27 million watched Lance Armstrong gain a record-equaling fifth title on the last day of the Tour de France.
England's Rugby World Cup final victory over Australia was the sixth most-watched event, with a global audience of 23 million. Cricket's World Cup climax, between Australia and India, was next, with 20 million viewers, and was followed by the Wimbledon men's tennis final, with 15 million.
Game six of the National Basketball Association final between San Antonio and New Jersey was ninth, with 12 million viewers.
Jafo
Reply #25 Sunday, January 4, 2004 9:04 AM
Reply #25 Sunday, January 4, 2004 9:04 AM
Just to put that into perspective....the number of people who watch the Tour de France WITHOUT a television is measured in the millions....yep...actually standing there to watch live...in the flesh...
AndreasV
Reply #26 Sunday, January 4, 2004 9:24 AM
Reply #26 Sunday, January 4, 2004 9:24 AM
football, my favourite sport to play and to watch 
Two of the prettiest goals ever:
http://mpj.tomaatnet.nl/bergkamp.mpg
http://mpj.tomaatnet.nl/hooijdonk.mpg
Two of the prettiest goals ever:
http://mpj.tomaatnet.nl/bergkamp.mpg
http://mpj.tomaatnet.nl/hooijdonk.mpg
kongit
Reply #27 Sunday, January 4, 2004 11:20 AM
Reply #27 Sunday, January 4, 2004 11:20 AM
I have always liked the hand of God myself.
Maradona was good, but I think pele was better.
Maradona was good, but I think pele was better.
wombat_1
Reply #28 Sunday, January 4, 2004 3:35 PM
With the amount of 'stuff' he snorted Pele probably thought he was 'The Hand of God'!
Shame to fall into that trap.
Reply #28 Sunday, January 4, 2004 3:35 PM
| Maradona was good, but I think pele was better. |
With the amount of 'stuff' he snorted Pele probably thought he was 'The Hand of God'!
Shame to fall into that trap.
Corio
Reply #29 Sunday, January 4, 2004 3:42 PM
Reply #29 Sunday, January 4, 2004 3:42 PM
Eh, wasn't that the other way around...?
Maradona snorted enormous amounts, don't know about Pelé
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Maradona snorted enormous amounts, don't know about Pelé
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macrobaye
Reply #30 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:24 PM
Reply #30 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:24 PM
It's too bad what's happening to soccer these days...the Brazilians are trying to make it look "pretty" which only involves fancy footwork, then diving in the box and whining when you don't get the call. English footbal is slowly skinking, mainly because of outside influence. American football (soccer) is really the only form of football that is true, "no-BS" football. It's not for the money, because the MLS hasn't any. It's not for the fame, because there aren't an incredible amount of supporters. it's really for the game.
Another point on that is American keepers. They don't try to make it look pretty. They don't dive and flip when they don't have to. That's what makes them so strong, and naturally better than most others.
just my fourteen cents
Another point on that is American keepers. They don't try to make it look pretty. They don't dive and flip when they don't have to. That's what makes them so strong, and naturally better than most others.
just my fourteen cents
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Reply #21 Sunday, January 4, 2004 6:15 AM