How come nobody has a Celron processor?
Saturday, January 3, 2004 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
What is so bad about them? It comes from the same company as the Pentium. I know its the lower standard but for normal computing isn't ok to use?
I need to buy a computer sooner than I thought because the one I am currently using is dead and dying. I don't think it will last the 3 months I will need to save up for the computer I really want.
Anyway, so what's wrong with a Celron? My sister has one and it seems fine.
Help!!!????
I need to buy a computer sooner than I thought because the one I am currently using is dead and dying. I don't think it will last the 3 months I will need to save up for the computer I really want.
Anyway, so what's wrong with a Celron? My sister has one and it seems fine.
Help!!!????
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HG_Eliminator
Reply #22 Sunday, January 4, 2004 12:32 AM
Reply #22 Sunday, January 4, 2004 12:32 AM
i have a food processor, an AMD processor, but no celerons 
wulfn1
Reply #23 Sunday, January 4, 2004 12:48 AM
If you're budget minded , and don't mind refurb, Dell has a great "outlet" link on their website. Last spring I got my dimension 2300 there for $420.. They upgrade the refurbs to the best possible configuration, so you get a great deal. I couldn't be happier with it. The computer I had before this one was a celeron, and I didn't notice any great lack of speed beyond what the ram allowed for (only had 128m) But with the dell I got a p4, with 256m ram and a great graphics card for the price.
I remember way back when amd & celeron were considered unstable. I didn't notice any instability in my celeron, but it is probably one of the second generation processors.
Reply #23 Sunday, January 4, 2004 12:48 AM
| remember seeing somewhere dell was selling a computer in the 500 dollar price range. |
If you're budget minded , and don't mind refurb, Dell has a great "outlet" link on their website. Last spring I got my dimension 2300 there for $420.. They upgrade the refurbs to the best possible configuration, so you get a great deal. I couldn't be happier with it. The computer I had before this one was a celeron, and I didn't notice any great lack of speed beyond what the ram allowed for (only had 128m) But with the dell I got a p4, with 256m ram and a great graphics card for the price.
I remember way back when amd & celeron were considered unstable. I didn't notice any instability in my celeron, but it is probably one of the second generation processors.
kona0197
Reply #24 Sunday, January 4, 2004 1:37 AM
Sadly no. I wish. in fact I hung up with a customer service rep from dell the other day because he got quite mean when I asked about AMD.
That said, I own a Dell.
Reply #24 Sunday, January 4, 2004 1:37 AM
| Performance for price...I'd go AMD. Doesn't Dell sell some computers with AMD CPU's? |
Sadly no. I wish. in fact I hung up with a customer service rep from dell the other day because he got quite mean when I asked about AMD.
That said, I own a Dell.
-daVo-
Reply #25 Thursday, January 8, 2004 11:25 PM
Reply #25 Thursday, January 8, 2004 11:25 PM
I know my athalon 2700 blows by my friends P4 (and he paid 5 times what I did), and I don't even have the right ram in it.
Chris TH
Reply #26 Thursday, January 8, 2004 11:29 PM
You put the celerons in the food processor with a bit of carrot & make yourself a nice veggie smoothie, right?
Reply #26 Thursday, January 8, 2004 11:29 PM
| #22 by Mr HG_Eliminator - 1/4/2004 12:32:43 AM i have a food processor, an AMD processor, but no celerons |
You put the celerons in the food processor with a bit of carrot & make yourself a nice veggie smoothie, right?
dabe
Reply #27 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:06 AM
Reply #27 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:06 AM
I used to always think that Celerons were lousy. Certainly not as good as Pentiums or AMD's. And, maybe that's true. But, I have and old Dell Dimension XPS T500. That's a groanin' 500 mhz. Way too slow for this day and age. But, I couldn't afford a new computer, so I decided to upgrade. But my ol' BX motherboard wouldn't upgrade very far. I found, through posting to the Dell user forum (which, btw, has some really great and knowledgable posters) a site called www.powerleap.com
Powerleap was able to boost my Mobo to a maximum of 1.2ghz using the Powerleap processor. It was cheap and it was effective. It's what I'm using today. It ain't fancy, and it ain't fast, and it's frustrating sometimes, but I have a Celeron. And, I'm moderately happy, given the restriction of only 1.2ghz. I also have 512 mb RAM.
I guess my point is, if you got the bucks, go with a P4 or AMD. If you're strapped for cash, the Celeron's latest chips will do you fine. After all, think about what you will need to be processing. For instance, at work I need power for the GIS mapping graphics I do. At home, I'm mostly using the standard browser, email, etc. I get along just fine with Photoshop, and of course Object Desktop stuff. Of course, if your a gamer, all bets are off. You do best with the latest, greatest, at least for video cards. But, what do I know?
Powerleap was able to boost my Mobo to a maximum of 1.2ghz using the Powerleap processor. It was cheap and it was effective. It's what I'm using today. It ain't fancy, and it ain't fast, and it's frustrating sometimes, but I have a Celeron. And, I'm moderately happy, given the restriction of only 1.2ghz. I also have 512 mb RAM.
I guess my point is, if you got the bucks, go with a P4 or AMD. If you're strapped for cash, the Celeron's latest chips will do you fine. After all, think about what you will need to be processing. For instance, at work I need power for the GIS mapping graphics I do. At home, I'm mostly using the standard browser, email, etc. I get along just fine with Photoshop, and of course Object Desktop stuff. Of course, if your a gamer, all bets are off. You do best with the latest, greatest, at least for video cards. But, what do I know?
c242
Reply #28 Friday, January 9, 2004 9:52 AM
Reply #28 Friday, January 9, 2004 9:52 AM
I just bought a 2.6 GHz celeron to build a second machine for doing graphics/skinning and programming (access databases/vba/office xp) for 99 Euro and it runs really good. No gaming though... 
DesignCaddy
Reply #29 Friday, January 9, 2004 9:55 AM
Reply #29 Friday, January 9, 2004 9:55 AM
< begin, the little celeron that could...
i went from a celeron to an athlon, but the jump was too big (400mhz celeron to 1.53athlon xp) to accurately compare the two. but i'll tell you my little HP pavilion celeron was a WORKHORSE. this was a computer i got in '98, that i ended up maxing out (GO 256mg ram!!), dual video, dvd player - and for a while it just took anything i threw at it. till photoshop 7, anyway.
i later bought a Toshiba laptop with a celeron.. when i took that to work and started using it everyday with graphics and video editing, it started to crap out real fast. for the same price a year later, i bought an HP laptop with a P4 that can serve as a mobile desktop computer.
but here's what experience has taught me:
celerons are best suited for buisness apps.. ms office, web pages, basically anything hallowed out in the windows desktop enviroment. when you go into graphics, rendering, video - you need something with more of a punch (that bus speed and caching comes into play) or else you have to take the load off of it with a powerful graphics processor (shared memory baaaaad) and a lot of ram. even sound needs to have hardware support. at 2.5ghz i can see where someone's celeron will prop them up, but for that money i agree with what someone else said - go AMD. HP makes solid athlon machines for good coin.
that HP pavilion of mine is still in operation and runs great, i gave it to a friend with a TV wonder card so he can watch cable on it. it does his papers but once he tries doing his geographical surveys on it.. heheh it just chokes.
eMachines = baaaaaad.
/end topic
i was downstairs chatting with one of our IT guys the other day, and i noticed he had a new eMachine on his workbench. it had a big sticker on it that said "this computer is never obsolete! for 99$ a year you can blah blah blah".. i said thats interesting.. 'never obsolete'.. the IT guy said "that thing was obsolete before it went on the shelf"
i went from a celeron to an athlon, but the jump was too big (400mhz celeron to 1.53athlon xp) to accurately compare the two. but i'll tell you my little HP pavilion celeron was a WORKHORSE. this was a computer i got in '98, that i ended up maxing out (GO 256mg ram!!), dual video, dvd player - and for a while it just took anything i threw at it. till photoshop 7, anyway.
i later bought a Toshiba laptop with a celeron.. when i took that to work and started using it everyday with graphics and video editing, it started to crap out real fast. for the same price a year later, i bought an HP laptop with a P4 that can serve as a mobile desktop computer.
but here's what experience has taught me:
celerons are best suited for buisness apps.. ms office, web pages, basically anything hallowed out in the windows desktop enviroment. when you go into graphics, rendering, video - you need something with more of a punch (that bus speed and caching comes into play) or else you have to take the load off of it with a powerful graphics processor (shared memory baaaaad) and a lot of ram. even sound needs to have hardware support. at 2.5ghz i can see where someone's celeron will prop them up, but for that money i agree with what someone else said - go AMD. HP makes solid athlon machines for good coin.
that HP pavilion of mine is still in operation and runs great, i gave it to a friend with a TV wonder card so he can watch cable on it. it does his papers but once he tries doing his geographical surveys on it.. heheh it just chokes.
eMachines = baaaaaad.
/end topic
i was downstairs chatting with one of our IT guys the other day, and i noticed he had a new eMachine on his workbench. it had a big sticker on it that said "this computer is never obsolete! for 99$ a year you can blah blah blah".. i said thats interesting.. 'never obsolete'.. the IT guy said "that thing was obsolete before it went on the shelf"
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Reply #21 Saturday, January 3, 2004 8:14 PM
CPU cache is the expensive bit....hence the difference between a Celeron and a Pentium.
Usually the most economical plan when buying a comp, or an upgrade is to go for SECOND best, and not PREMIUM....eg the P4 3.0c 800fsb will be a better value than the 3.2c 800....worked out about 25% cheaper when I got mine....same goes for most other things, though MoBo choice is more about what features you need, eg Serial ATA, Raid, etc....