How come nobody has a Celron processor?

Saturday, January 3, 2004 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

What is so bad about them? It comes from the same company as the Pentium. I know its the lower standard but for normal computing isn't ok to use?

I need to buy a computer sooner than I thought because the one I am currently using is dead and dying. I don't think it will last the 3 months I will need to save up for the computer I really want.


Anyway, so what's wrong with a Celron? My sister has one and it seems fine.

Help!!!????
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kongit
Reply #1 Saturday, January 3, 2004 12:42 PM
a couple of things are wrong with them, nothing that makes them unusable though. If you can get a celeron that runs a fourth faster then a pentium 4 and its at your price range, get it because it will run a little faster then the similarly priced p4. I think the code sets, voltage, and pins are different. not sure though.
paxx
Reply #2 Saturday, January 3, 2004 12:45 PM
My old computer that I was still using until last week is a Celeron. I have no complaints about it other than it was very old a dreadfully slow.  It was some 5 years old, a Celeron 333 or something like that.  Never had a complaint about it, ran very well.
Hus
Reply #3 Saturday, January 3, 2004 12:52 PM
The main difference between Celerons and P4's is the Bus speed and L2 cache. A P4 has 512kb L2 cache while the Celeron only has 128kb. The newer P4's have a 533mhz FSB while the Celeron is at 400mhz. Also the newer P4's have 2mb L3 cache and Hyper-Transport blah blah...so basically it's a matter of performance. If I were you Joe, I would look at the Athalons rather than the Celeron's...you will probably get more for your money...
kona0197
Reply #4 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:02 PM
and pins are different. not sure though


pins are not different. But the celeron lacks the perfomance of the P4 and the hyperthreading as well.

The newer P4's have a 533mhz


actually they have a 800 mhz fsb (hyperthreading) ask jafo he knows.

kona0197
Reply #5 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:03 PM
If I were you Joe, I would look at the Athalons rather than the Celeron's...you will probably get more for your money...


actually try the new FX series chips from AMD. awesome chips.
joetheblow
Reply #6 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:20 PM
I was thinking about the AMD but I don't have an account with any company that sells them.

My Mom is going to help me out with her Dell account so I am pretty much stuck with Dell (not that its bad, Dell makes some good computers)


I just need the cheapest computer to hold me for the next year until I can buy what I want. The Celrons seam to be ok but I hardly EVER here anyone talk about them.

I know I am buying a piece of junk computer but I want it to be the best piece of junk.
kongit
Reply #7 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:23 PM
give me a second to find it. I remember seeing somewhere dell was selling a computer in the 500 dollar price range.
kongit
Reply #8 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:24 PM
here: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/advertised_dimen?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
qrush
Reply #9 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:25 PM
I have a Centrino on my laptop, which is much better than a celeron. Wireless internet, woot.



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joetheblow
Reply #10 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:26 PM
Also I want it to run WindowBlinds, DesktopX (relativly smooth), and SkinStudio along with Photoshop.

I am going to need those programs in order to do my projects. So I figured I need 256 RAM.

I had a Pentuim 3 500mhz with 256 RAM and everything ran nicely. (and that was 2 years ago)

So I figured a Celron could do the job since it has been years since the last time I checked it out. If I end up with a Pentuim I know I don't need the fastest.
kongit
Reply #11 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:29 PM
look at my link. the first one on the left has a free upgrade to 256 ram.
joetheblow
Reply #12 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:36 PM
Thanks 1/4
I saw that one.

Although right now it seems that Dell.com is down for what ever reason.

Guess I'll order it tomorrow.


GASP!!! On e the computer I am on now it takes some web pages 30 seconds to render... literally.
kongit
Reply #13 Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:41 PM
its not down for me, but then I never tried to order anything
EventHorizon
Reply #14 Saturday, January 3, 2004 2:01 PM
Got a 2.2ghz celeron on my desktop here...no problems.
joetheblow
Reply #15 Saturday, January 3, 2004 2:25 PM
Thanks guys. I think I will order it now.

All of my work has basically come to a stand still including my website.




I have to get something soon.
Essencay
Reply #16 Saturday, January 3, 2004 6:09 PM
P4's have a 533mhz


Intel made one 3.06Ghz cpu with 533MHz with hyperthreading before jumping to 800mhz. I know I'm one of the idiots that bought it Who new that they would jump to another busspeed so quickly
Essencay
Reply #17 Saturday, January 3, 2004 6:10 PM
Performance for price...I'd go AMD. Doesn't Dell sell some computers with AMD CPU's?
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Coolnat2004
Reply #18 Saturday, January 3, 2004 6:12 PM
Isn't Dell offering a $600 Dimension 2400 with a P4, CD-burner and LCD flatpanel upgrade? Excuse me for watching TV =P

I Got my dimension 2350 in May and its great, I have a P4 though, couldn't live without it. My grandma has the same computer with a Celeron and I'm scared as to how long it takes to open that start menu..heh
Coolnat2004
Reply #19 Saturday, January 3, 2004 6:14 PM
Ah yes, check out

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/advertised_dimen?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

the model all the way to the left, only $500!

Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.40GHz with 533MHz front side bus

Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition

FREE 2nd Bay DVD Burner!

FREE 256MB Memory Upgrade - Online Only!
neato
LA Werewolf
Reply #20 Saturday, January 3, 2004 6:37 PM
I just installed a 2.5 GHz Celeron last weekend, upgraded from a 1.1 GHz AMD Duron and all I have to say is WOW! What a difference. I am very pleased with it. I have 768 MB of DDR 2700 RAM and I think my comp is flying. I used to have trouble with Desktop X and now I don't. They are extremely cheap and well worth the money.

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