R I A A A ! ! Are we Scared?!
Monday, September 29, 2003 by ToolWraith | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hello everyone, i've been reading up on this whole P2P file sharing contraversy, and realized, after the 250+/- lawsuits, has the overall number of P2P users decreased? Are we scared? I've noticed that I rarely use KaZaa now, infact, i havn't touched it for atleast 2 to 3 weeks, whereas I used to be on it everyday!
What do you think? leave your opinions, too!
What do you think? leave your opinions, too!
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kona0197
Reply #3 Monday, September 29, 2003 4:35 PM
no. In fact if you go to download.com Kazaa is still the number 1 download.
Reply #3 Monday, September 29, 2003 4:35 PM
| has the overall number of P2P users decreased? |
no. In fact if you go to download.com Kazaa is still the number 1 download.
paxx
Reply #4 Monday, September 29, 2003 6:33 PM
Reply #4 Monday, September 29, 2003 6:33 PM
A shame, and then people wonder why their computers don't work anymore.
*sigh*
I can't tell you how many computers I had to troubleshoot at the office. I look up in the registry and see Common Names, Gator, and all that crap. Don't blame it on the computer, it works fine, it's the crap you install that messes it up. Then I tell them not to install anything without checking with me first, or they'll have to pay from their own pocket the company time I take fixing their computer. That usually keeps them nice for a while. 
Chef Garry
Reply #5 Monday, September 29, 2003 6:45 PM
Reply #5 Monday, September 29, 2003 6:45 PM
hijack alert!
Tech support doesn't want anyone to install anything and I can understand why. However, they know about my Stardock modifications and the understanding is if it breaks and I can't fix it, the first thing to go is Object Desktop.
So far, I haven't screwed up anything I can't fix on my own.
Tech support doesn't want anyone to install anything and I can understand why. However, they know about my Stardock modifications and the understanding is if it breaks and I can't fix it, the first thing to go is Object Desktop.
So far, I haven't screwed up anything I can't fix on my own.
voo
Reply #6 Monday, September 29, 2003 6:49 PM
Reply #6 Monday, September 29, 2003 6:49 PM
I almost died laughing when seen that picture.
Pure Classic.
Pure Classic.
Hus
Reply #7 Monday, September 29, 2003 7:05 PM
Reply #7 Monday, September 29, 2003 7:05 PM
When P2P first started to get popular with Napster like 3 years ago, I had quite the library built up. I had close to 2,000 mp3's...ah but alas...nothing good can last forever. My PC died...lost it all...couldn't be bothered to get it back. I now buy the CD's I like...I have lost all patience with file sharing...the $16 on a CD is worth the convience to me now. 
EventHorizon
Reply #8 Monday, September 29, 2003 8:11 PM
Actually, on the bottom bar of the kazaa window, it says how many users are online. A few months ago it was normally around 4million, last couple times I used it (couple weeks ago) it was about 1 million less.
Reply #8 Monday, September 29, 2003 8:11 PM
| Has the overall number of P2P users decreased? |
Actually, on the bottom bar of the kazaa window, it says how many users are online. A few months ago it was normally around 4million, last couple times I used it (couple weeks ago) it was about 1 million less.
Styl-X Design
Reply #9 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:45 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:45 AM
Kazaa sucks, and so do all the people who use it.
Sometimes makes me wonder why I would share my skins with them.
anyway, kazaa is not (really) accepted in this community and you won't make yourself populair if you say you use it, its not my busines, so I don't even want to know.
Styl-X Design wonders if ToolWraith would like it if I uploaded his wallpaper under my name, just the same as kazaa users do.
Sometimes makes me wonder why I would share my skins with them.
anyway, kazaa is not (really) accepted in this community and you won't make yourself populair if you say you use it, its not my busines, so I don't even want to know.
Styl-X Design wonders if ToolWraith would like it if I uploaded his wallpaper under my name, just the same as kazaa users do.
Snowman
Reply #10 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:51 AM
thank you....
Reply #10 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:51 AM
| Kazaa sucks, and so do all the people who use it |
thank you....
Zodiaq~
Reply #11 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:52 AM
Reply #11 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:52 AM
I don't use Kazaa anymore either 
It would seem that Kazaa 'Is' accepted in this community...There are several Object Dock Kazaa Icons for download...
I noticed Jairo's Kazaa Icons have had well over 3,000 downloads...So I guess all those folks that downloaded and support Desktop enhancement suck
It would seem that Kazaa 'Is' accepted in this community...There are several Object Dock Kazaa Icons for download...
I noticed Jairo's Kazaa Icons have had well over 3,000 downloads...So I guess all those folks that downloaded and support Desktop enhancement suck
Styl-X Design
Reply #13 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:23 PM
Reply #13 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:23 PM
Zodiaq, they do suck yeah, well, IMHO.
Don't you notice that the bigger part of the SKINNERS are against kazaa.
(Skinners are higher educated
)
Cerebro, thats duble illegal, atleast if you listen to the founders of kazaa.
Don't you notice that the bigger part of the SKINNERS are against kazaa.
(Skinners are higher educated
)Cerebro, thats duble illegal, atleast if you listen to the founders of kazaa.
Bangkokboy
Reply #14 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:26 PM
Reply #14 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:26 PM
people who would die before ripping a skin will rip music. amazing - not
Zodiaq~
Reply #15 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:30 PM
Reply #15 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:30 PM
I can't say they just 'Suck'...
There are thousands probably Ten's of thousands that have no clue they are doing anything wrong...so do they 'Suck'...Naaa...Just uneducated on the matter
(I guess I have a higher education since I skin 
)
There are thousands probably Ten's of thousands that have no clue they are doing anything wrong...so do they 'Suck'...Naaa...Just uneducated on the matter
(I guess I have a higher education since I skin
)
Styl-X Design
Reply #16 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:51 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:51 PM
Bangkokboy, I have to agree with you, I see 'sharing' music the same as ripping. Just from my own standards I am against it.
Zodiaq, common, don't say 'they don't know they are doing something wrong'.
Thats total nonsens, they might think 'hey, everyone is doing it, so why not' but its still illegal, and its the same as stealing a record from a cd shop.
Zodiaq, common, don't say 'they don't know they are doing something wrong'.
Thats total nonsens, they might think 'hey, everyone is doing it, so why not' but its still illegal, and its the same as stealing a record from a cd shop.
Zodiaq~
Reply #17 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:04 PM
Reply #17 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:04 PM
Be real...
How many 10-12 year olds are out there sharing files and have absolutely no clue what so ever about copyright infringements
How many 10-12 year olds are out there sharing files and have absolutely no clue what so ever about copyright infringements
azdruid
Reply #18 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:21 PM
Reply #18 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:21 PM
How true...The Kazaa software is so highly biased, and if you use it, you need to get a few air holes drilled in your skull, or maybe a knock on the door and a signed document...MUA HAH HAH! ...I know so many people who still do it (13-18 year olds, kids my age) who simply have no respect for anyone else's property. They think "Oh, I can get it for free, why not do it?" That is no reason to steal copyrighted content. I know there is a lot of blab about how using Kazaa is any different from shoplifting. Well, in a sense no, but it caught on so well because it is so darn easy. People like that. Unfortunately, everybody thinks Oh, there are 3 million users on, what are the odds that they're gonna find me? DO you really want to take that chance? 3 million people do, apparently...I have a good laugh every time I hear about some teen being forced to cough up a couple grand for something "they didn't know was wrong." Yeaaah...It doesn't take rocket science. Nothing at all is free, except skins on WC. Even here, respect is a necessity. The kind skinners who post here are not trying to make money, they simply want to share their talents. Of course, commercial music is different, but no matter what, you need to show respect for other people's work.
ToolWraith
Reply #19 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:53 PM
You know, you make a very strong point here. Still, when we dl music off Kazaa, we do not share it under OUR name, it is still, the artists work, and the artist still gets recognized, just no paid... However, I'm not like the other pirates out there, though, I only downloaded songs to listen to them a couple times. If i like 'em, I buy the album. If not, i delete them. However, I do dl music vids, which isn't really buyable all the time. Some artists sell DVDs with them, but not the rare vids, lik live shows that come on MTV.
Reply #19 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:53 PM
| Styl skinner wonders if ToolWraith would like it if I uploaded his wallpaper under my name, just the same as kazaa users do. |
You know, you make a very strong point here. Still, when we dl music off Kazaa, we do not share it under OUR name, it is still, the artists work, and the artist still gets recognized, just no paid... However, I'm not like the other pirates out there, though, I only downloaded songs to listen to them a couple times. If i like 'em, I buy the album. If not, i delete them. However, I do dl music vids, which isn't really buyable all the time. Some artists sell DVDs with them, but not the rare vids, lik live shows that come on MTV.
ToolWraith
Reply #20 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:57 PM
Reply #20 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:57 PM
Also, I'd like to add, that P2P file sharing has been BENEFICIAL to more than 70% of the artists out there. You see, a true artists dream is for their work to be seen or heard everywhere, and inspire people. Through programs like Kazaa, Artists were able to spread their music like wildfire around the world! It's just some other artists who have already made it to the top that hate P2P because they make big shows, which costs big money, which comes from the label, and thats why the RIAA is prosecuting, not individual artists. The record label cant get their spent money because of Pirates who don't buy cd's. >
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Reply #1 Monday, September 29, 2003 3:33 PM
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