R I A A A ! ! Are we Scared?!
Monday, September 29, 2003 by ToolWraith | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hello everyone, i've been reading up on this whole P2P file sharing contraversy, and realized, after the 250+/- lawsuits, has the overall number of P2P users decreased? Are we scared? I've noticed that I rarely use KaZaa now, infact, i havn't touched it for atleast 2 to 3 weeks, whereas I used to be on it everyday!
What do you think? leave your opinions, too!
What do you think? leave your opinions, too!
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Jafo
Reply #22 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:01 PM
Reply #22 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:01 PM
Many people [try to] justify P2P usage by stating that the product is unavailable in any other manner....that's plain bunkum...if it's unavailable in any other [legal] manner doesn't legitimize subsequent 'theft'....it's simply cause and effect....ALL property theft is a matter of 'opportunity', not 'necessity'....
paxx
Reply #23 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:19 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:19 PM
There is a very strong myth that the RIAA is persecuting children. Come on, get real. They are suing the parents, not the kids. And it's a parent's responsability to supervise what his kids do on the Internet. Parent who don't are irresponsible and deserve to get sued.
If a 12 year old got arrested for cracking into computers, or writting destructive viruses, who would go "The government is persecuting our poor children who don't know any better!" or "He didn't know it was wrong! He was just having fun!"
Come on. When a couple of parents gets sued because their child steals music, maybe other parents will start to educate their kids about what music theft is.
azdruid
Reply #24 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:00 PM
Reply #24 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:00 PM
Jafo is right. And, ToolWraith, you have a point. P2P networking is a good way to get your music out in the world for absolutely nothing. However, all good things can be misused. Indeed, this had potential, but the majority of the Kazaa users tend to trade copyrighted files, not free music.
The DJ
Reply #25 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:46 PM
Jeez, what an idiotic statement (edited). Please elaborate further.
Only dumb uneducated people use Kazaa? And skinning labels you real educated? If you think so, you are highly mistaken. For the record, I don't use Kazaa. But what a crazy statement.
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Reply #25 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:46 PM
| 13 by Skinner Styl skinner - 9/30/2003 12:23:43 PM Zodiaq, they do suck yeah, well, IMHO.Don't you notice that the bigger part of the SKINNERS are against kazaa. (Skinners are higher educated ) |
Jeez, what an idiotic statement (edited). Please elaborate further.
Only dumb uneducated people use Kazaa? And skinning labels you real educated? If you think so, you are highly mistaken. For the record, I don't use Kazaa. But what a crazy statement.
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kona0197
Reply #26 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:52 PM
Reply #26 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:52 PM
ah yes I love personal attacks. Word to the wise DJ, don't be flaming others....
The DJ
Reply #27 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:56 PM
Reply #27 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:56 PM
Yes that was really a personal attack. That is hardly flamming. More like calling out an idiotic statement. Don't you agree? My intention was not personal.
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kona0197
Reply #28 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:58 PM
Reply #28 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:58 PM
I consider attacks and flaming as the same thing...
They both disgust me because I used to do the same thing. I have mellowed out a bit but I still do not like it when A friend of mine is attacked.
They both disgust me because I used to do the same thing. I have mellowed out a bit but I still do not like it when A friend of mine is attacked.
The DJ
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:03 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:03 PM
Ummm, it was neither Kona. Do you use Kazaa? If so and since you do not skin, according to Styl skinner he is higher educated than you.
kona0197
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:05 PM
Reply #30 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:05 PM
Sorry it just looks like a attack then.
And I do skin. I have started skinng just recently.
And I am and always shall be against KaZaa and file sharing.
I do do care what styl said I think it was a joke.
And I do skin. I have started skinng just recently.
And I am and always shall be against KaZaa and file sharing.
I do do care what styl said I think it was a joke.
Sugaree
Reply #31 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:12 PM
Reply #31 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:12 PM
I'm not to sure "all" skinners are totally age against kazaa. I mean http://www.skinbase.org/kazaa_top.php had a skinning contest for Kazaa.
I use Kazaa sometines to download music that I know the bands are "ok" with it. Sometimes I even find a real gem
I use Kazaa sometines to download music that I know the bands are "ok" with it. Sometimes I even find a real gem
The DJ
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:13 PM
Reply #32 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:13 PM
Well I look forward to seeing your skins Kona. I break balls a lot, so something may come across entiely different than what I intended.
kona0197
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:15 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:15 PM
Sorry about the misunderstanding. Currently tearing apart skins to rainlander and sysmetrix to learn how to make my own. So far it has been fun.
yrag
Reply #34 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:16 PM
You should get together with China...you have a lot in common
Reply #34 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:16 PM
| I break balls a lot |
You should get together with China...you have a lot in common
Sugaree
Reply #35 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:19 PM
Reply #35 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:19 PM
cheap shot, Yrag!
Don't worry, your balls are still on my hit list
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Don't worry, your balls are still on my hit list
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The DJ
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:29 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:29 PM
I would hate to be on China's 'hit' list.
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paxx
Reply #38 Wednesday, October 1, 2003 3:09 AM
Reply #38 Wednesday, October 1, 2003 3:09 AM
| Only dumb uneducated people use Kazaa? And skinning labels you real educated? |
Well, the way I understood it was not that he meant that skinners have more schooling, but that skinners are more educated regarding the copyright issue.
ToolWraith
Reply #39 Wednesday, October 1, 2003 12:51 PM
Unfortunately for all of us, that is very true...
Reply #39 Wednesday, October 1, 2003 12:51 PM
| majority of the Kazaa users tend to trade copyrighted files, not free music. |
Unfortunately for all of us, that is very true...
CerebroJD
Reply #40 Wednesday, October 1, 2003 1:02 PM
Reply #40 Wednesday, October 1, 2003 1:02 PM
I use K-lite to preview music from groups before I get the CD. Avril Lavigne, Nickleback you name it. But I DO get the cd's afterwards if I like the stuff. I have a band in my hometown, called DGB. They have stuff on the Kazaa network, but its mainly to improve their distrobution. It is damn near impossible to find their cd's. So I got some of their rare stuff from online, but I did buy the one cd I could find. Am I bad? Uneducated? NO! But you are all entitled to your own opinions. I think that Kazaa and other p2p progs are abused, but if structured correctly could become an asset to artists.
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Reply #21 Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:00 PM
Napster uploaded from the users, and shared froma central server... not the same with KaZaa...