Creation vs. Evolution
Thursday, September 11, 2003 by grayhaze | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
To quote Phoebe from Friends: "I guess the real question is who put those fossils there and why?"
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Reply #202 Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:04 PM
This story is so insulting, that if nothing else ( but there is much more ),I would NEVER,EVER accept such kind of God. To beleive in any God, one must volunterely suspend his or her own common sense and live a life on dogmas and blind faith.Statistics says that in the name of Jesus,Alah,Buda or any selfproclamide divinity, more people were killed in the course of the history than for all other causes together.Why would any sane person believe in anything that is beyond any common reason, without a shread of evidence to support religious beleives? Someone has putit nicely : Absence of evidence is evidence of absence ".
By expressing my personal view of Religion I have no intention to offend those who are belivers. I am a Atheist and a commited democrat
Reply #203 Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:02 PM
First of all i read in Bible (yes i stronly believe in it) that if I am persucuted or put down for being a Christian I shall have a place in heaven.
Some of the posts here could be seem as put downs to Christians. Saying there is no God is just plain otright blasphemy. To those who do not believe: open your eyes.
For the day shall come when every mouth shall confess and knee shall bow that Jesus is your Lord and God.
When that day comes I will be laughing at those who said there is no God!
I still say Creation has evidence: the bible. Some of you choose not to believe the bible's accounts because of stupid reasons like "It was written by Men"
Anyways....
Reply #204 Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:13 PM
The ethos of Religion has been corrupted to serve the arrogance of those in history demanding power and control over others.
Religion 'may' be the 'opiate of the masses'....but it's also the rallying point for generations of dissent and conflict as one flavour demands its place in dominance over other 'flavours' of the same animal.
Organised Religion is little different from organised militia or even gang-mentality.
Belief in something beyond the tangible, in whatever name is what it WAS all about...but sadly most people have lost the point, preferring to treat Religion like their football codes.
Personally, Religion sucks lemons in its current gestation/s and I refuse to be either a sheep OR a lemming.
I'll answer to MY maker in the way it is supposed to be.....one on one....
Reply #205 Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:25 PM
How very christian of you Kona.
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Reply #207 Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:29 PM
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Reply #210 Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:40 PM
| #13 by Kona0197 - 9/13/2003 6:04:31 PM The hell with that. You pick california you stay there. We people in Oregon don't like Californian people moving here! |
And this is how you act............ thumping the Bible in here, acting like this in another thread......
it's so typical .................
Reply #212 Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:49 PM
Besides we all have shortcomings. I am not perfect, nor is any Christian or any man.
Koa, your comment really deserves no response.
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Reply #215 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:40 PM
You'd have faith in the others, if you were born into them. Doesn't necessarily make you wrong, but you have to bear in mind that religious correctness is in the eye of the beholder.
Reply #216 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:43 PM
How do you guys explain muslims and other religions (including Jewish) converting to Christanity? Just curious because the rate this is happening is off the chart.
Reply #217 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:50 PM
I think at some point, if someone has doubts in their faith, some will strengthen it in their current religion, some will change religions, and so on. I know of a preacher who left the church (and Christianity) after some 20 years in the faith, because he could no longer convince himself that it was the right path.
My belief is like the quote from 'The Prophet', there is but one Spirit (God), and the path you take to honor God is less important than the fact that you honor Him.
Reply #218 Saturday, September 13, 2003 9:03 PM
Of course from a marketing stand point, you do not present your product as if it is just as good as any other, that it is ok to try the rest first because it is known you will eventually stick with the *ours*, and so on...
Odd that...
Anyone watched the Movie Stigmata? The scroll thought to be written by the hand of Jesus?
In it you are told that your body is your church, and you need no one between you and your god.
Guess that is why so many seem to refute it and the Vatican locked it away from the public.
Reply #219 Saturday, September 13, 2003 9:06 PM
Exactly Kona. There are as many people converting from Christianity to Boudism and Islam than the other way around.
My point is believe in God, fine. But understand that religion is just a way to express your faith. As I've said before, although I do generally consider myself athiest, I'm not a convinced one. I don't think there is a God, but I do admit there could be one. But I do very energically consider myself anti-religious. I think religions have always had for purpose to take advantage of people's faith in God to manipulate them. I know it's true for christianity (read about Saul, read about the first Counsils), I know it's true for Islam (the early fight between Shia and Suni about the true heir of Mahomet, is all about power and control: who should be the Imam). I don't know enough about Boudism though; it appears to be a more peacefull religion, but it could just be a misconception.
Reply #220 Saturday, September 13, 2003 9:24 PM
The scroll described in Stigmata was the Gospel of St Thomas, a gnostic document found in Nag Hamadi in the early part of this century.
Unlike the four books of the apostles in the New Testament, the Gospels of Thomas are not written in verses, but in more of a question and answer format (with the answers being Jesus's).
My favorite verses from this document are:
"Split a piece of wood -- I am there; lift the stone and you will find me there."
Jesus said: "If those who lead you say to you 'Behold the kingdom is in heaven,' then the birds of heaven will precede you;if they say to you that it is in the sea, then the fish will precede you. But the kingdom is within you and it is outside of you."
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Reply #201 Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:28 PM