Question for an admin.

Sunday, August 17, 2003 by bucben | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Can I get one of you to check the rating for a dx theme that was just approved(Underwaterx).Thank you.
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bucben
Reply #41 Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:37 PM
yeah I would be happy to win the lotto if nobody played?
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kona0197
Reply #42 Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:42 PM
i was just saying i would be honored if anything i made made it here!
bucben
Reply #43 Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:46 PM
Yes kona it is cool to have your work approved-its just more rewarding to have someone download it-sorry
Jafo
Reply #44 Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:25 PM

Kona....the frame pic was just an example of how ratings have no bearing on effort/input....hundreds of hours were spent building/designing/tweaking that frame.....considerably more time and skill than the 'I was bored so I fiddled with Bryce' wall uploads we get daily...

Re the 'hanger'....the better quality front changers come in either clamp on and braze on styles....the latter requires a bracket to be brazed onto the seat tube at the ideal height for the chainset...and is slotted to allow minor up-down movement.  When dealing with a non-standard wheel/frame geometry the hanger needs to be offset to allow for the different chainline, so a clamp on is next to useless...

kona0197
Reply #45 Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:30 PM
Re the 'hanger'....the better quality front changers come in either clamp on and braze on styles....the latter requires a bracket to be brazed onto the seat tube at the ideal height for the chainset...and is slotted to allow minor up-down movement. When dealing with a non-standard wheel/frame geometry the hanger needs to be offset to allow for the different chainline, so a clamp on is next to useless...


yes I have heard of braze ons but only on road bikes. I have never seen a mountian bike with anything but a clamp on front changer.
Jafo
Reply #46 Monday, August 18, 2003 12:53 AM
It's an XT deraillier...which is modded from a clamp on version....bit more custom 'tweaking' on my part...
Satans Child
Reply #47 Monday, August 18, 2003 6:48 AM
Maybe its just me but, I dont think most people here are going to give anybody a "10" rateing for man-hours. Sure alot of time, effort and skill go into doing what you do, but if its not appealing to the eye, after all, this is a site for enhanceing the cosmatics of your browser (or whatever), should people just automatically give a "6" rateing just for uploading. Maybe in the comments, let us all know how many man-hours and cups of java you have invested into a particular upload and we could make our calculations according to that.

Nevermind, I thought I was somewhere else. Wheres the coffee
KarmaGirl
Reply #48 Monday, August 18, 2003 7:00 AM

bucben, I am not the one who moderated it, but I can tell you why it was given a "5" from moderation (or at least why I would have moderated it at that or lower). Please also remember that I work a lot with DesktopX since I work at Stardock, so I know what a well put together theme should look like:
1) The background is extremely low res. and looks like it was borrowed from a pic someplace on the net.
2) The "grass" of DWM is "borrowed" and oddly colored and oddly placed (looks slapped on, not carefully placed).
3) The bottom bar is resolution dependent and gets extremely wonky if not at the resolution that it was made for (the tray bleeds off the screen making icons non-accessible, the meters turn into overlaid goop, etc.)
4) the bottom meter does not flow with the rest of the theme and seems to be just stuck on
5) what the heck did you do to those fish? They look really bad
6) It's a resource hog.  Not sure why, but it is.  It's really eating CPU for some reason.  (I'd look into it, but I really don't have time).

There...you asked, so I answered.

KarmaGirl
Reply #49 Monday, August 18, 2003 7:01 AM

47 by Citizen Satans Child - 8/18/2003 6:48:33 AM 
Wheres the coffee

You're too late...i drank it all.  Quit whining and go make some more!    Coffee is good...... Hi!

BoXXi
Reply #50 Monday, August 18, 2003 7:15 AM

Another thing Bucben, you have 4 DX themes on here, and to my eyes they all appear to be the same theme with a different wallpaper thrown in, none of which you appear to have made yourself. Hell, I could upload 200 new themes tomorrow if I did that with all my walls.

This is probably the main reason for it's initial rating, and why I dislike the idea of people rating something up because someone complains.  I hope this puts a little perspective on it for you.

Satans Child
Reply #51 Monday, August 18, 2003 8:27 AM
piggy
KarmaGirl
Reply #52 Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM
maybe......you think a pot of coffee a day is excessive?
WOM
Reply #53 Monday, August 18, 2003 12:44 PM
A pot of coffee a day excessive. Never. Thats the norm.



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Zodiaq~
Reply #54 Monday, August 18, 2003 12:51 PM
#33 by Moderator BoXXi - 8/17/2003 4:42:48 PM Styl Skinner: I don't agree with what you just did. Rating someone's work as a 10 just because they complain on the messageboard is unfair and makes a mockery of what we are trying to achieve with the rating system. If everyone complains on the board about their ratings, are you personally going to go around "putting it right"? It's not your place to do that, ratings are there for a reason. Not many of us like the rating system, and you can understand why when it's open to abuse like this.


Agreed...That is BS!!! Nothing less than 'Ratings Abuse' >

If you rate, it should be about the craftsmanship of the work as well as other things...Not because 'YOU' feel sorry for someone or 'YOU' feel it should be rated higher

If that's how you rate, you shouldn't have the ability to do so
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Apocalypse_67
Reply #55 Monday, August 18, 2003 2:26 PM
That is so true. Ratings should be given after taking under account all aspects of the design and ONLY the design and consciously give the rating that you feel it deserves.
By giving a rating because you like the artist or because you feel sorry for the artist or because that artist gave you a good rating on one of your designs, etc. You are not been true to your self, you are not been true to the rating system and you are not been true to the artist you are rating. If a person cannot rate a design for the right reasons, that person shouldn’t be rating at all.

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