This RIAA thing is getting scary...

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 by AlphaDraco | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Ok, so the RIAA is filing lawsuites against people with as few as 5 downloaded songs at $750-$150,000 per song!?! I wonder what will happen after they bankrupt a few parents.... And, of course, it turns out that my ISP is one of the only ones NOT fighting to keep the names of the swappers! I guess it works for the RIAA, but I feel for the people that they attack... This has gone too far.

(By the way, hi...been away for a while.)
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Gregory2001
Reply #41 Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:59 AM
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Iben
Reply #42 Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:50 PM
Bangkokboy
I think the reason people want to file share music is.
In they're subconscious mind they are feeling that purchasing music has always been a big ripoff.Not worth the ridiculous price,especially when there is only one good song on the whole album.This file sharing is the subconscious minds way at lashing out at the record company monopolies in a sort of revenge for the past.




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Jafo
Reply #43 Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:11 PM
No...they do it because it's free...and they can...
Iben
Reply #44 Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:16 PM




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Sugaree
Reply #45 Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:17 PM
uhh-yup!
yrag2
Reply #46 Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:05 PM
http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap07-31-145106.asp?t=apnew&vts=73120032141



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messybuu
Reply #47 Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:55 PM
That link is interesting. I'm happy at least 66% of them are honest about how they really feel. I do find it funny though that people still don't expect others to have their children supervised.



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White_Moth
Reply #48 Friday, August 1, 2003 5:09 AM
They are in St. Louis trying to threaten a company to hand over all the names of employees who have DLed music files.

The company is refusing to comply, but it will cost them dearly.

Someone has WAY TOO much power now.



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DaWebMassa
Reply #49 Friday, August 1, 2003 10:07 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/07/30/state2258EDT0268.DTL
BillyBoy2k6
Reply #50 Friday, August 1, 2003 10:12 AM
I got 684 files downloaded on my computer. And my friend got over 1,000 files downloaded.

RIAA or others won't be able to get over $100M from us.
BillyBoy2k6
Reply #51 Friday, August 1, 2003 10:18 AM
Also, if they can't get our money, why can't they just ask us to wipe out our hard drive? And yes I know some people would download the music again after being requested to wipe out our hard drive. But why can't they do something else, other than sueing us.
Gregory2001
Reply #52 Friday, August 1, 2003 10:19 AM
Like prison?
Bangkokboy
Reply #53 Friday, August 1, 2003 12:48 PM
iben has a point - i remember fuming more than once as i paid for an album that only had one song on it that i really wanted badly.
DavidK
Reply #54 Friday, August 1, 2003 1:20 PM

Here's an alternate viewpoint to the claims of the RIAA, well researched and with a thoughtfully concieved alternate solution. Not all of the RIAA's own members support what they are doing. If you read this, read the follow-up too, it's very interesting. http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html

Something to remember in this debate is not only the fair-use issues or the supression of beneficial technology, but privacy and individual rights.  US culture has had a 225 year history of protecting an individual's right to privacy. A man's home was his castle and no one had a right to violate his privacy without the courts declaring it was ok. Only law enforcement was allowed to appeal to the courts for a search warrant to invade your privacy.

Do we want industry, private corporate interests, to have the right to examine our personal data, remotely destroy our personal computers or maintain a database of our personal activities?  This is an issue that goes way beyond file-sharing but this is certainly relevant to this debate.

The RIAA claims their actions are necessary because they are losing millions of dollars to file sharing. There is no independant study to verify this, only their own reports. Shouldn't they be the ones being forced to prove their claims before such draconian measures as imprisoning and financially destroying thousands of people is resorted to? I believe their loss of sales is because of many factors all of which are their own doing. I don't believe any of their loss of sales is because of file sharing. If anything, I believe they shot themselves in the foot with the Napster trials. I stopped buying any US CD's and I'm sure there are thousands of people who feel the same way.

 

Gregory2001
Reply #55 Friday, August 1, 2003 1:32 PM
Yes, the RIAA should have to prove their claims. If they do, it will be theft whether they have loss of sales or not. It's no different than patching into cable TV.

Why buy CDs when you can steal them?

"Rips" are only wrong if it's your own work and not anybody else's?


DavidK
Reply #56 Friday, August 1, 2003 1:54 PM

When record stores started making listening booths available to preview music the RIAA fought it, tried to make it illegal.

When VCR's became widely available to the public the movie industry tried to have the technology banned.

When movies were first rented to people with vcr's the movie industry fought it all the way to the supreme court.

They don't have the foresight to embrace new distribution technologies. They don't have the creative vision to move with the inevitable progress of technology into the future.

Companies should not be allowed to interfere with beneficial technology, advances that could provide a benefit for all mankind, to protect their own profits. They should have to adapt, as everyone else does. I supposs some of you feel it would be ok to prevent new non-polluting energy systems to be supressed because it would have a negative impact on some oil companies' profits. And it's ok to research and produce biological weapons because stopping the production of these horrible germs "would have a negative impact on the bottom line of several American companies" (quote GWBush).

What's our future to be? One that benefits mankind or one that benefits only rich executives? 

 

Gregory2001
Reply #57 Friday, August 1, 2003 1:59 PM
One that benefits an artist for his work.
White_Moth
Reply #58 Friday, August 1, 2003 2:13 PM
Personally, I believe all this is just another "chink" being blasted out of our Constitution of the United States of America.

One day, it will be so riddled full of holes, it will not stand, and the Land of the Free will be no longer.



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DavidK
Reply #59 Friday, August 1, 2003 2:14 PM

Read Janis Ian's article, there are other ways for the artists to benefit than by putting teenagers or their parents in jail or fining them into homelessness.

The artists loose more to the RIAA's stranglehold on distribution than they could ever loose by having wider exposure thanks to file sharing.

Gregory2001
Reply #60 Friday, August 1, 2003 2:17 PM
there are other ways for the artists to benefit than by putting teenagers or their parents in jail or fining them into homelessness.

I agree. There just has to be a better way.

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