The Aussie Bushfire Crises

should be classified a national disaster

Thursday, January 2, 2020 by starkers | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Hi all, Shaunna, Steve and I are safe and nowhere near the danger here in Tassie, but many are across Australia and I'm hoping all WCers will join together in prayer.... or with hope and best wishes for those who may not believe.

I'm hoping that Jafo and others on mainland Australia are okay and not in any danger, 'cause much of the East Coast is on fire, as well as South Australia, Western Australia and The Northern Territory,  These fires are unprecedented and many are burning out of control as equipment and firefighters are thin on the ground, given the vast extent of the catastrophe.... not to mention those brave souls who spent weeks on end at firefronts to save others needing a well earned break.

We have many sporting bodies and sports persons donating hundreds of thousands of dollars the aid the bushfire appeal, and I commend every one of them for pitching in.  However, I believe our Federal Government needs to do much, much more to assist those firefighters and others in dire circumstances 

Declaring a National Emergency would free up millions of dollars for bushfire relief, but I doubt our so-called prime minister would do it.  And no, I am not making a political statement here.  The one person who has the means and ability to assist/support those in these dire straits, Scott Morrison, took off on vacation while the country burned.  That is unacceptable, given the extreme conditions, property loss and loss of life.

Anyway, Jafo, again, I hope that you and yours are safe and stay safe.  The same for everyone else.  Be careful and evacuate as directed or as needed.

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DrJBHL
Reply #1 Thursday, January 2, 2020 8:03 AM

Glad you and Shaunna are far from the danger, Mark. Jafo's working on banning the fire, so it doesn't have a chance.   

Good thoughts, prayers, and whatever works for you all in Oz...hoping you all pull through without injury or damage to yourselves and your homes.

teddybearcholla
Reply #2 Thursday, January 2, 2020 8:18 AM

Happy you guys are safe. Prayers for everyone there.   

Jafo
Reply #3 Thursday, January 2, 2020 9:06 AM

We're safe...but my nephew got caught up in one...but out now...

Meanwhile, we both donated plasma today to help...but then spent all day in hospital when Terry had a bad reaction....won't be donating ever again.  Mine was no dramas, at least.

LightStar
Reply #4 Thursday, January 2, 2020 9:18 AM

Just watched more about this on the news, absolutely horrible. Many prayers to all, may you be safe. 

RedneckDude
Reply #5 Thursday, January 2, 2020 9:48 AM

All my hopes and prayers are directed to those in harm’s way. 

Chasbo
Reply #6 Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:30 AM

I'm sending hopes prayers to all those affected by the horrible fires in Australia.

don5318
Reply #7 Thursday, January 2, 2020 11:27 AM

Prayer and Hope to all that are in the path of the terrible fires that are raging in parts of Australia, glad that those of you who live there are ok. 

Aussie007
Reply #8 Thursday, January 2, 2020 11:08 PM

I am in Geelong, Victoria. As far as the fires go we are OK although at the moment we have smoke haze. Our main problem would be if major fires broke out in the Otway Ranges to our West. Then the towns of Lorne, Anglesea and Torquay might be in trouble.

starkers
Reply #9 Friday, January 3, 2020 12:52 AM

So glad that you and Terry are okay, Paul, and you also, Aussie007.  Hopefully all our other Aussie members are safe and in no immediate danger.  Thus far in Tasmania the only major concern is Pelham near Hobart, quite some distance to where we are in Launceston.   Hopefully the firies get that under control and extinguished very soon, as with all the firefighter heroes battling the worst of conditions across the nation.

Thanks to all who have sent best hopes and wishes to those who have lost loved ones and property, to those still in danger.  Shaunna, Steve and I don't have a lot left in savings after moving from Queensland and having to buy new or replace items we didn't bring or was damaged by the removalists.  However, we are going to donate as much as we can afford to the bushfire relief fund to assist those in need.... the firefighters themselves and those who have lost everything.   It mightn't be a large amount, but every little bit helps when the chips are down for so many.

starkers
Reply #10 Friday, January 3, 2020 10:44 PM

Today there is a smoke haze from the mainland and South Australia's Kangaroo Island blanketing Tasmania.  The smoke has even reached New Zealand and other areas of the Pacific.  It clearly is the worst bushfire season in history, with billions upon billlions of dollars in damages, property loss and the loss of life.  So far there has been 28 recorded fatalities, with that figure still likely to climb with over 20 people unaccounted for.  Hopefully they are safe and holed up somewhere away from danger.

What gets me, is when the country is in crisis and burning out of control, there are still arseholes going around evacuated home stealing whatever they can.  One woman who was evacuated and able to return found her home ransacked and missing various items.  Bastards!!!!!  That's what they are, complete bastards.  I really hope they are caught and handed down very, very harsh sentences for taking advantage of those people threatened by these horrendous fires.

On a happier note, many Aussie sports personalities, and even some from overseas have and still are donating millions of dollars to bushfire relief funds.  Good on 'em.  Such a pity our wealthy bankers, politicians and corporate bigwigs can't do the same.

starkers
Reply #11 Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:32 PM

More celebrities from Australia, the US and around the world have made some generous donations to the rural fire services and people affected by the bushfires.  Nicole Kidman and husband Keith Urban donated AU$500,000, as did US singer, Pink.  An Aussie comedienne Celeste Barber has raised AU$20,000,000 with assistance from actors and comedians in the US, the UK and Australia.  However, many are saying that no amount of money will be enough to rebuild what has been lost. 

Some towns completely razed to the ground may never be rebuilt or reoccupied.  So many homes and livelihoods have been lost and some may never recover.  Many farmers have lost all their livestock and equipment, small businesses have been totally wiped out, and the land will take generations to recover, meaning billions upon billions of dollars have been lost to fires and drought.

While the focus has been on these devastating fires, the long-running drought has been overlooked, but there are places in NSW and Queensland that have not seen rain in 5 years, and much of the fire devastation is the result of the exceedingly dry conditions.  And sadly, the people with the means and power to enact drought relief, fire relief and prevention have been sitting on their hands for far too long. 

Our PM has pledged 3000 reservist troops to assist in the fire fighting effort, with the navy and air-force providing transport to evacuate people from danger zones, but I'm afraid it's too little too late.  28 have already lost their lives and I fear that number will climb even higher before this crisis is over.

Aussie007
Reply #12 Sunday, January 5, 2020 5:13 PM

The smoke haze is terrible here in Geelong, Victoria at the moment.

starkers
Reply #13 Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:40 PM

Aussie007

The smoke haze is terrible here in Geelong, Victoria at the moment.

It's not so good here in Launceston, either.  We've had a smoke haze for a couple of days now.  I think much of it is from the Kangaroo Island blaze and the one burning on the Victorian East coast, having travelled across Bass Strait.  It has even reached New Zealand, with Auckland under and orange haze and parts of the South Island reporting smoke haze in several areas.  It has been reported that the glaciers on the South Island have turned a dirty brown from falling ash.

The bushfires may be here in Australia, but other countries in the region, maybe even further afield, are going to feel the effects from smoke haze and diminishing air quality.   We've had some bad bushfires in the past, but nothing as destructive/catastrophic as these.  May it never, ever happen again.

Aussie007
Reply #14 Sunday, January 5, 2020 7:21 PM

starkers


 
 



It's not so good here in Launceston, either.  We've had a smoke haze for a couple of days now.  I think much of it is from the Kangaroo Island blaze and the one burning on the Victorian East coast, having travelled across Bass Strait.  It has even reached New Zealand, with Auckland under and orange haze and parts of the South Island reporting smoke haze in several areas.  It has been reported that the glaciers on the South Island have turned a dirty brown from falling ash.

The bushfires may be here in Australia, but other countries in the region, maybe even further afield, are going to feel the effects from smoke haze and diminishing air quality.   We've had some bad bushfires in the past, but nothing as destructive/catastrophic as these.  May it never, ever happen again.

We are going on a cruise to New Zealand at the end of the month. We are taking masks just in case

starkers
Reply #15 Monday, January 6, 2020 2:39 AM

Aussie007

We are going on a cruise to New Zealand at the end of the month. We are taking masks just in case

 To be honest, I think the smoke haze from these fires will hang around for some time after they are extinguished, which could be another month or two yet, so yeah, taking some masks with you is a good idea.

If you get the time and opportunity, go to Waikato and tour the brewery there, it's a great experience.  Also Rotorua is somewhere that's well worth a look for the thermal fields, and Queenstown on the South Island.  Again, well worth the visit, especially the trip out to historic Arrow Town, which remains very much as it was built over a century ago.

Anyhow, have a good trip.  

Jafo
Reply #16 Monday, January 6, 2020 3:11 AM

Yep...just travelled from Melb back to the 'Rat with a visibility of less than 500 meters....thanks to the smoke...

Got home and donated to the Wildlife fund.

Gotta do something...

starkers
Reply #17 Monday, January 6, 2020 11:17 PM

Visibility isn't so great here, though not as bad as that.  However, the air quality around Launceston is poor and persons with heart and or breathing issues are advised to stay indoors.  Being a former smoker I am taking that advice to avoid any smoke related aggravation, not that I need to go anywhere 'til next week sometime.

We are donating directly to the fire services as they need more people on the ground and more/new equipment.  I feel bad that millions of wildlife creatures have perished, but my concern at present is more for those farmers who have lost all their livestock, equipment and homes, etc. 

At least now the military is involved with the firefighting efforts and evacuating folk where necessary.  I cannot recall a worse disaster happening to Australia, and I've been here 50 years, but the Aussie fighting spirit will prevail and we will eventually recover, though some small towns and regions may not be resettled any time soon, if ever, given the total desolation to the land and property

I must say that I am so grateful to all the TV, movie, sporting and music stars from around the world who have donated so much.  Celeste Barber's relief fund has raised over $36 million in just 3 days and so many celebrities have set up other ways to raise money.  Yup, it's pretty special when the world comes together to help in whatever ways they can.

           

Jafo
Reply #18 Tuesday, January 7, 2020 2:34 AM

Warne's baggy green is at 316k at the moment...and counting...

starkers
Reply #19 Tuesday, January 7, 2020 4:38 AM

Yeah, he and other sports personalities have donated playing gear and other memorabilia to the bushfire relief cause.  Good on 'em all for the support and the caring.

Another Aussie actor, Chris Hemsworth, donated a million $ as well.  Good on he and all the stars from around the world for their generosity,  Sadly, I do not have the funds to contribute as much, having recently spent the best part of my savings to relocate to Tassie, and to replace this and that, but we are going to donate all we can afford later in the week after our bills and expenses are paid.

What's sickening is the number of parasites who have set up bushfire fund raisers only to pocket the cash.  I sincerely hope these people are found and have the full extent of the law come down upon them.  To anyone wanting to make donations, I suggest that you look to the established funds linked to on the various news sites and to the fire services webites themselves.  A few bogus funds have popped up here and there, so please be careful to ensure your money goes to where you intend it to go.

Aussie007
Reply #20 Tuesday, January 7, 2020 1:53 PM

Elton John announced at his Sydney concert that he will be donating $1 million also.

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