Ratings "Oh no , not again"
Saturday, July 19, 2003 by Keila | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have to agree for the most part the rating system is nice. It gives you some sense of what people think of your work other than the comments alone. Although the comments are of the utmost importance in my opinion. I have noticed though with many other skinners work that you will have a very nicely designed and working skin that ends up with a well deserved rating. As it should be yes? Then you find a little while later the comments have not gone up but the skins rating has gone down quite a bit. This leads me to believe that people are rating skins without even trying them, just looking at the preview and rating it. Or, worse than that purposely giving someone a lower rating because they do not like them for some reason or another. This is when the rating system does not work. Unfortunately, some people have their preferences set that they do not see a skin below a certain rating and because someone came along and did this to your work your skin will not even be viewed by some people. This itself is not fair to the skinner and all the hours of work they put into their skin. So I guess in closing, I just want to say to anyone who has done this to someone please try to remember that there is a real person with real feelings behind the skin you just gave a bad rating just for the short term pleasure you took in doing so. 
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Zodiaq~
Reply #3 Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:26 AM
Reply #3 Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:26 AM
I would think the reasoning would be. A person downloads the skin, test drives it for awhile, then finds a few bugs or little things they may not like, Then go back and rate it 
At least that's what I do. You have to run the blind for a considerable amount of time before you can justly rate it
At least that's what I do. You have to run the blind for a considerable amount of time before you can justly rate it
WOM
Reply #4 Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:43 AM
Reply #4 Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:43 AM
True Zodiaq~, but if the blind is technically sound then why smash it! I did that once and felt bad but before I could go back and up the rating I got jumped on. So if the blind has no bugs I give it a good rating.
Zodiaq~
Reply #5 Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:00 AM
Reply #5 Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:00 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...It's difficult to please everyone.
To just give a poor or high rating because of reasons other than the performance or aesthetics of the skin itself..well that's not cool...unfortuanately there are a few out there that would do that.
On the other hand, If 10 people rate a skin 10 then someone thinks the skin is just average and gives it a 5, I don't see a problem with that.
As far as ratings go...There are really very few that rate...I have one skin rated 8 with over 20,000 downloads and only 8 people rated it
For me it's not too big a deal, but that's just my take on it
To just give a poor or high rating because of reasons other than the performance or aesthetics of the skin itself..well that's not cool...unfortuanately there are a few out there that would do that.
On the other hand, If 10 people rate a skin 10 then someone thinks the skin is just average and gives it a 5, I don't see a problem with that.
As far as ratings go...There are really very few that rate...I have one skin rated 8 with over 20,000 downloads and only 8 people rated it
For me it's not too big a deal, but that's just my take on it
Hus
Reply #6 Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:19 AM
Reply #6 Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:19 AM
I rate skins as fairly as I possibly can. For one, I never give out 10's unless it's absolutely stellar work and truely a cut above the rest. So far I think only 2 or 3 works got 10's from me. The rest of the time, I give the skin what I think it deserves. Usually 6's or 7's...if it's very good but not quite the best, it will get an 8 or 9 and if it stinks beyond stinkiness, you get the dredded 1. I actually think it's harder to get a 1 from me than a 10. 
messybuu
Reply #7 Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:21 AM
Reply #7 Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:21 AM
I don't worry about ratings too much. One of the skins I've ported to WindowBlinds received a low score, even though it is probably the most accurate and complete ports available. Still, it's not something to lose too much sleep over, since intelligent comments are really what's important.
MadIce
Reply #8 Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:11 PM
Reply #8 Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:11 PM
Keila, I agree with you. Also ratings are used to show the skins. If a skin has a rating of 6 or less it will not be shown to most users. There are skins that are worth to be shown, but won't because of that. Not sure how to "save" such skins.
Maybe a skin author can contact one of the admins to check whether one or more extreme low ratings are involved.
Maybe a skin author can contact one of the admins to check whether one or more extreme low ratings are involved.
Snowman
Reply #9 Saturday, July 19, 2003 5:57 PM
Reply #9 Saturday, July 19, 2003 5:57 PM
why not just drop the rateing system?!
Nothing but trouble imo
Nothing but trouble imo
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #10 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:59 PM
Reply #10 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:59 PM
Amen to the dropping ratings.I've stopped rating skins alltogether because of rating problems i'm experiencing.To the only person i ever gave a bad rate to I apologize,I wish i could take it back.(even tho it was a real stinkeroo )I no longer see myself fit to pass judgement,I see now the harm it can do.
)I no longer see myself fit to pass judgement,I see now the harm it can do.
WOM
Reply #11 Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:10 PM
Reply #11 Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:10 PM
I.R.Brainiac, you can alqways go back and rate it higher is it bothers you.
messybuu
Reply #12 Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:58 PM
Reply #12 Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:58 PM
Why not just have it be so that people have to leave comments to rate a skin? Then it'll require some effort to rate a skin, and you'll be able to know who gave who what.
Anthony R
Reply #14 Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:32 PM
Reply #14 Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:32 PM
Rate the rater on the quality of thier ratings and put pressure. Turn these raters into Elizabeth Bathorys poor servant girls That will teach them.
That will teach them.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #16 Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:45 PM
Reply #16 Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:45 PM
Nope ...wont let me.I only see a ratings button when a skin is on the newest additions list or the updated list.Guess i'll email them and at least apologize.
Keila
Reply #17 Monday, July 21, 2003 6:07 AM
Reply #17 Monday, July 21, 2003 6:07 AM
Now if something is really bad and you have looked it over then the lower rating is not mean to give. If a skin does not work right or is just plain messed up in some way it does not deserve a higher rating. I think maybe the best way would be for people to give the number they feel the skin deserves. Not a lower then what you think because you feel the skin is rated higher then you would like it to be.Then you are giving a lot lower rating then you intended to being with yourself. Same goes in the other direction. Giving a skin you feel is an 8 for instance, a rating of 10 because you feel the skins not rated high enough. It's all the same and it makes it so the rating system not work.
If the is a part of this that does not make any since keep in mind I just woke up and have not finished my coffee yet.
If the is a part of this that does not make any since keep in mind I just woke up and have not finished my coffee yet.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #18 Monday, July 21, 2003 7:42 AM
Reply #18 Monday, July 21, 2003 7:42 AM
Keila thats exactly why ratings should not influence a skins availability.People abuse and manipulate the system.I didnt mind so much the bad rating my WB got because the dl count told a different story.Until it got slammed to a 4 and now it dosnt show to the general public anymore.If the rating system stays in place it people shouldnt be able to rate anonymously.Make them put it in there comment.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #19 Monday, July 21, 2003 7:43 AM
Reply #19 Monday, July 21, 2003 7:43 AM
Which is what messy buu said and I totally agree.
WOM
Reply #20 Monday, July 21, 2003 3:42 PM
Reply #20 Monday, July 21, 2003 3:42 PM
I.R.Brainiac, if you rate someone a 5 you ca go back and give them a 6 and above. You have to be an apprentice or above or a level 4 to rate.
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Reply #1 Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:20 AM