some rips again
Friday, July 18, 2003 by opera-fansite | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
http://www.transware.co.jp/portal/customize/skin/volter.html
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Jafo
Reply #2 Friday, July 18, 2003 5:03 PM
Reply #2 Friday, July 18, 2003 5:03 PM
No...they are 'rips' and Volter knows full well they are....We had them removed from the Opera sites, much to our Russian's disgust, so he's obviously found another unwitting site to host his thievery....>
wombat_1
Reply #4 Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:40 AM
Reply #4 Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:40 AM
Good luck this time round Jafo!
The 'host' might not be too helpful.
A larger concern should be the pirate copies of WB4.1 that are already out and about! > 
Jeez ... three working links (I checked) on the same board within 24 hours is a bit hard to swallow .... >
The 'host' might not be too helpful.
A larger concern should be the pirate copies of WB4.1 that are already out and about! >
Jeez ... three working links (I checked) on the same board within 24 hours is a bit hard to swallow .... >
Styl-X Design
Reply #6 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:06 AM
Reply #6 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:06 AM
Tech Cat, if it dont have written permission in the zip file I concidder it as a rip... but that could just be me, and btw, dont think you will get much responce from opera, they need to use a damn aprovall system >
Weaksid
Reply #7 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:28 AM
Reply #7 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:28 AM
Geez, this guy is back at it. It took forever on Opera to get that taken care of. He's determind isn't he?
Weaksid
Reply #8 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:30 AM
Reply #8 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:30 AM
I also realized that I need a really good webpage translator program.
yrag2
Reply #9 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:32 AM
....I think that about sums it up
Reply #9 Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:32 AM
| #5 by JourneyMan grayhaze - 7/19/2003 5:20:30 AM This guy really needs a wet trout to the face. |
....I think that about sums it up
IPlural
Reply #11 Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:26 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:26 PM
http://www.pcgraphicsreport.com/sample.pdf
a really well presented artical on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act at PCGraphicsReport.com.
Graphic spiders seeking out stolen art work displayed on the web, and the fine is $150,000.00 for each offense!
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a really well presented artical on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act at PCGraphicsReport.com.
Graphic spiders seeking out stolen art work displayed on the web, and the fine is $150,000.00 for each offense!
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Tech-Cat
Reply #12 Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:40 PM
Last time I posted a thread about possible rips, I was told to only contact the admins privately about rips since sometimes the case may be that permission was given but was not incuded in the description on the site.
Reply #12 Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:40 PM
| Tech Cat, if it dont have written permission in the zip file I concidder it as a rip... but that could just be me |
Last time I posted a thread about possible rips, I was told to only contact the admins privately about rips since sometimes the case may be that permission was given but was not incuded in the description on the site.
grayhaze
Reply #13 Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:31 PM
Reply #13 Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:31 PM
That's generally for rips on this site Tech Cat. If it's a rip which could affect more than one skinner, and it's on another site outside of the skinning community 'loop', then it's sometimes a good idea to bring wider attention to it.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #14 Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:35 PM
Reply #14 Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:35 PM
yea if its against another site we can get an angry mob going, and to tell u the truth who doesnt like an angry mob 
Tech-Cat
Reply #15 Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:25 PM
Reply #15 Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:25 PM
In this case the accused is guilty of ripping. What if the situation was different? Is it fair to publicly label someone a ripper before the authors of the original works being used have been contacted to ask if the accused did or did not seek their permission? When you post a rip thread you are making someone guilty before they are proven guilty.
grayhaze
Reply #16 Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:28 PM
Reply #16 Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:28 PM
In this case Tech Cat, we already know the guy ripped the icons. He's already posted them on another site and there was a long battle, fronted by Jafo, to get them removed. We've had comments from the original authors, so we know permission was never given to take the icons.
In general, you're right though. Unless there's proof, which is pretty easy to come by when you're talking about ripping, then this sort of thing should be done in private.
In general, you're right though. Unless there's proof, which is pretty easy to come by when you're talking about ripping, then this sort of thing should be done in private.
Jafo
Reply #17 Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:23 PM
Reply #17 Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:23 PM
Tech Cat...this is merely battle number three in the same war against our Ruskie Ripper.
There is a long history of email communication relating to this person.....absolutely no question of 'rip or not rip'....he now knows exactly what he is doing and that it is wrong and stated publicly that he intends to continue doing so.
The IMPORTANT point here, however is that Opera.com and a related 'Fan' site have both responsibly removed his works when requested.....they were unaware of the problem until contacted....and their subsequent actions are beyond reproach.
Language barriers have always been an issue in this case...but we can but just keep trying.
Come to think of it...this is number 4 battle......1 was a dud as he hid under the 'no comprende' camoflage, 2 and 3 were won by sidestepping him with a pincer movement.....and 4 will probably just need us to 'dust off and nuke him from space.....only way to be sure'...
IPlural
Reply #18 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:04 PM
Reply #18 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:04 PM
ever thought of running for political office in the USA Mr Pres.... ah I mean Jafo?
Weaksid
Reply #19 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:53 PM
Reply #19 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:53 PM
There is one main suite that seems to stand out from the rest. It's the toon one. That's a paid for suite copyrighted by PixStudio. He thinks it's ok to take the work that people did and mess with it without permission. Then when you keep going through his work, you'll find alot more pay suites and other peeps work that is posted on WC. Opera was a pain to get him to take off. Now it's going to be more interesting to get this one taken care of. I like Jafo's idea, nuke his @$$.
Tech-Cat
Reply #20 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:55 PM
Reply #20 Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:55 PM
Only native born Americans are allowed to run for US president.
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Reply #1 Friday, July 18, 2003 3:46 PM