Found a rip
Wednesday, June 25, 2003 by DjGeoffWilliams | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Dark Mist's Wallpaper 'Bolt' https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=8&SkinID=9692
is a rip taken from an actual photograph found here: http://www.chaseday.com/lightning2.htm
the image is about halfway down the page.
Sorry to have to tell you this, he's such a good artist.
is a rip taken from an actual photograph found here: http://www.chaseday.com/lightning2.htm
the image is about halfway down the page.
Sorry to have to tell you this, he's such a good artist.
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Chef Garry
Reply #2 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:35 AM
Reply #2 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:35 AM
I might be a tad thick but this only looks vaguely similar to me. That is, they look like different bolts to me. The clouds behind don't look anything alike. 
sig101
Reply #4 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:06 PM
Reply #4 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:06 PM
It appears to be the same picture, although reversed horizontally for the wall. In the wall it looks like some darkening of the clouds in some areas may have been done as well as removal of the horizon and ground.
IPlural: your suggestion is a good one IMO. However, Dj's remarks are already in the comments section for the wall.
IPlural: your suggestion is a good one IMO. However, Dj's remarks are already in the comments section for the wall.
DarkMist
Reply #6 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:37 PM
Reply #6 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:37 PM
For gods sake not again.
That is not the link nor the same picture, the picture i got i picked up a while ago from a FREE nature site and as i stressed it was something i was practicing on not something i said i started from scratch, i did not flip or remove anything from the image.
All you had to do wass confront me personally and i would have explained, but no it (yet again) has to be made public.
What does one have to do around here to learn and share along the way.
That is not the link nor the same picture, the picture i got i picked up a while ago from a FREE nature site and as i stressed it was something i was practicing on not something i said i started from scratch, i did not flip or remove anything from the image.
All you had to do wass confront me personally and i would have explained, but no it (yet again) has to be made public.
What does one have to do around here to learn and share along the way.
DarkMist
Reply #7 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:40 PM
Reply #7 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:40 PM
And to save my name it shall be removed if its agreed on by the people in charge with no quibble from me.
sig101
Reply #8 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:00 PM
Reply #8 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:00 PM
Well given the detail in the pic, even the jags and offshoots of the lightning, isn't it possible that the image you downloaded and used was "borrowed" from the other site linked to above? I'd say it's the same pic.
I thought the rules for work uploaded here were that it's supposed to be original work, not just a manipulation of another work (or photo). (Unless of course permission is granted by the original artist or photographer.) So perhaps according to those rules, it is a "rip?" That's for the mods to decide, I suppose.
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I thought the rules for work uploaded here were that it's supposed to be original work, not just a manipulation of another work (or photo). (Unless of course permission is granted by the original artist or photographer.) So perhaps according to those rules, it is a "rip?" That's for the mods to decide, I suppose.
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DarkMist
Reply #9 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:27 PM
Reply #9 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:27 PM
Yes its the same image but image i used was different, and it was for commercial or non commercial free use. Never said its my own work from scratch just something i was working on. I will remove it if you so wish, was only sharing after all. No skin off my nose.
Orion
Reply #10 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:32 PM
Reply #10 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:32 PM
Everyone shuddap and let the admins sort it out. Not another witch hunt...
Yeah, right...I bet you're sorry. 
Instead of being an attention *****, take it up with the admins if you feel you need to be Mr. Skin Policeman.
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Instead of being an attention *****, take it up with the admins if you feel you need to be Mr. Skin Policeman.
DarkMist
Reply #11 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:37 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:37 PM
Too late, the certain vultures are already feeding from the gossip.
grayhaze
Reply #12 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:49 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:49 PM
I'm not going to pass judgement by screaming 'RIP!' on this one, but from what Dark Mist has said it sounds like he was unaware that the original image was copyrighted material.
The danger with downloading and using any images from sites which claim to be royalty free collections is that you're never really sure where the image has come from in the first place. It's so much safer, but obviously more costly, to buy photographs like this from a reputable seller or as a part of a CD clipart collection.
I can understand your unwillingness to accept that the image you used was copyrighted Dark Mist, but the evidence seems pretty conclusive on this occasion, whether you were aware of the image's original source or not. I think this is just an unfortunate misunderstanding where you've been mislead by another party.
The danger with downloading and using any images from sites which claim to be royalty free collections is that you're never really sure where the image has come from in the first place. It's so much safer, but obviously more costly, to buy photographs like this from a reputable seller or as a part of a CD clipart collection.
I can understand your unwillingness to accept that the image you used was copyrighted Dark Mist, but the evidence seems pretty conclusive on this occasion, whether you were aware of the image's original source or not. I think this is just an unfortunate misunderstanding where you've been mislead by another party.
DarkMist
Reply #13 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:53 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:53 PM
I shall remove it. If it was copyrighted i apologise and yes i was unaware. Judge my from now on if you wish but i do not rip anything if i know its copyrighted or actually belongs to someone (their own work etc).
Apologies
Apologies
Doomgaze
Reply #14 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:57 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:57 PM
FYI: I'm pretty damn sure that image was on photodisc a while back.
Check photodisc.com/gettyimages.com
You'll probably find it there. (doing a quick search showed most of those images on the gettyimages site)
Check photodisc.com/gettyimages.com
You'll probably find it there. (doing a quick search showed most of those images on the gettyimages site)
IPlural
Reply #16 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:17 PM
free for non for profit use Photo's, unless royalties apply to the specific graphic...
Artist's submit their work however the publisher sets up the contract and submission policies...
Reply #16 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:17 PM
free for non for profit use Photo's, unless royalties apply to the specific graphic...
Artist's submit their work however the publisher sets up the contract and submission policies...
DarkMist
Reply #17 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:30 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:30 PM
Oh right, sounds interesting. Those things are hard to find now.
Jafo
Reply #18 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:51 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:51 PM
It certainly appears original proprietorship is uncertain. This image is very definitely derived from the other[s] and would require verification of appropriate consent, which, that not forth-coming, demands the work be removed from Wincustomize.com.
Now, as a general reminder, such notification of 'rip' SHOULD be dealt with via email to myself or another Admin/wizop and not via public vilification. On most occasions such incidents are 'accidental', not 'intentional', purely through ignorance/inexperience.
When this work in particular was submitted, my [private] comment was 'gee this looks familiar', but assumed it was a tutorial-type image where you end up with more than one example of 'similar' result, but since it has exact duplicates elsewhere means that is not the case so it is removed...
White_Moth
Reply #20 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:22 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:22 PM
We still like you and your talent Dark Mist and I for one can understand.
Mistakes, accidents and mis-understandings DO happen and is easily forgivable, but the blatant public "finger-pointing" is no mistake, accident or mis-understanding, and not so easily forgivable.
Mistakes, accidents and mis-understandings DO happen and is easily forgivable, but the blatant public "finger-pointing" is no mistake, accident or mis-understanding, and not so easily forgivable.
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Reply #1 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:35 AM
Personally I think in such a situation the RIP indicator should be addressed to the persons involved ( one who makes the submission, admins and wizops ). The submission can be reconsidered, discussed with the person who submits it and a then worked out.
really really...