WinCustomize needs a new calculator.
Monday, June 2, 2003 by Apocalypse_67 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I did a check on my total downloads and it added up to 4079, yet the number on the Top list is 3770. The other night my total downloads was 4018 and on the list went up to 5400. Kind of confusing, dont you all think?
Are any of this numbers real, or the site counter is just trowing numbers for the hell of it? If this is the case, then why have a download count?
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Reply #62 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 2:25 PM
"T-Man and the Admins".....
What's the bet I'd end up as the roadie?....
Reply #64 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:36 PM
Yes, as T-Man said.
But pictoratus, don't forget that the WC downloads are only used for the top 10 lists. The regular overall downloads are still counted when you look at the downloads your skins got. Don't forget that the top 10 list only features 10 authors. The other thousands of authors I'm sure appreciate to know how many downloads they got overall. It's quite more encouraging to see you got 5,000 downloads than 500 (the difference is about 10 to 1).
Reply #65 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 6:52 PM
I'll take 5000 anyday over 500
I really appreciate you guys taking the time to explain it so well and the reasoning behind it. I do believe the goal is a 'fair' system. Maybe everyone can just show a little tolerance as the bugs are worked out along the way.
Reply #66 Wednesday, June 4, 2003 12:49 PM
KarmaGirl reads this entire thread...
KarmaGirl smacks head on desk repeatedly
Reply #68 Wednesday, June 4, 2003 5:56 PM
I will never understand this obsession with the Top whogivesa Lists........................ 
Just skin something damnit, and pour me another mug of coffee!
Reply #69 Wednesday, June 4, 2003 6:20 PM
The current system is much more fair than the previous one and is similar to what is used by IMDB (The Internet Movie Database).
Check out http://www.imdb.com. It's even more popular than WinCustomize.
Any person can vote on a movie that is in their database. However, only a subset of those votes (registered users) are used to calculate the all time best/worst/etc. movies.
Similarly here, we track the downloads of all skins because 99.9% of skin authors will never be in the top 10 lists on the site. But they are certainly interested in seeing how many people downloaded their skins. And we track the top 20 or so skins/authors on their own seperate page.
But for what is displayed here, we use registered users. This helps avoid intentional/unintentional manipulation of the list. In addition, statistically, the rankings should not fundamentally change.
But as the IMDB example shows, WinCustomize is not the only one who uses a subset of its user base to determine top 10 rankings and they do it for the same reasons we do.
Reply #71 Thursday, June 5, 2003 1:10 PM
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Reply #61 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 2:00 PM
Amen