WinCustomize needs a new calculator.
Monday, June 2, 2003 by Apocalypse_67 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I did a check on my total downloads and it added up to 4079, yet the number on the Top list is 3770. The other night my total downloads was 4018 and on the list went up to 5400. Kind of confusing, dont you all think?
Are any of this numbers real, or the site counter is just trowing numbers for the hell of it? If this is the case, then why have a download count?
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Reply #22 Monday, June 2, 2003 12:34 PM
Reply #23 Monday, June 2, 2003 2:57 PM
OK...for those who aren't aware, but ARE following this thread.....the anonymous downloads that are not factored into formulating the list of 'top authors' can be from legitimate AND illegitimate sources....namely off-site linking to adversely affect a person's ranking...sad, but true.
The way it is working now, the downloader must actually be logged into this site to be counted, thus the resulting 'rankings' correctly reflect the 'position' of the artists' popularity within THIS site and not from elsewhere.
So, the rankings are now more representative of the Wincustomize.com's community, and are far less likely to be the result of system abuse. Just put it down to the desire/s of the site's administrators to see a level playing field for all...
A_67....hopefully paxx sorted out your confusion regarding the numbers...
Reply #24 Monday, June 2, 2003 3:47 PM
Now, if we can only figure out a way to force the remaining downloaders to log on.
Just a quick suggestion. If the log-on users downloads are the ones that count for the top lists. Wouldnt it be good to dispaly those numbers on My Skins also?
Just an idea
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Reply #30 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:59 AM
Thanks Jafo
I see the problem. With no log in, there's no way of telling if the downloader was actually 'here' or not.
Maybe T-Man and his 'wizards'
can come up with a way to prevent 'hot linking' (Is that what it's called?) to prevent that offsite linking. That might save a lot of bandwidth. 
Reply #31 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 7:24 AM
| . If the log-on users downloads are the ones that count for the top lists. Wouldnt it be good to dispaly those numbers on My Skins also? Just an idea |
Depends on your point of view. From our point of view, no. The reasoning behind this is that you do not know what your ranking is until the next day. With the previous system you could monitor your daily downloads and then towards the end of the night you notice that you do not have enough downloads to make it on the top 10 lists so you start downloading just enough to get you on the list. Now that you cannot see the numbers that make up the Top 10 list it makes it more difficult to cheat the system.
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Reply #34 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 8:55 AM
That could prevent the off-site linking too
Reply #35 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 9:15 AM
.....With the previous system you could monitor your daily downloads and then towards the end of the night you notice that you do not have enough downloads to make it on the top 10 lists so you start downloading just enough to get you on the list. Now that you cannot see the numbers that make up the Top 10 list it makes it more difficult to cheat the system.
Nobody can cheat the system, unless he is an admin.
Try to download as many times you wan't a skin or a wallpaper, it doesn't count it but only one time.
In the other hand the authors that appearing in the Top Author's list are only a few, well known and the same persons for years now. Is this an accusation for those authors???
What are you talking about???
What am I talking about, the masses must not have a voice, so I will keep on with my silense.
Reply #36 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 9:44 AM
| #35 by adni18 - 6/3/2003 9:15:28 AM
Nobody can cheat the system, unless he is an admin |
Hmmm. Curious. Is that an accusation? As far as cheating the system goes.... I wish our system was that bullet proof to where it could not be cheated. Holes in our system have been exploited and I am sure will be exploited in the future. For you to make that statement is rediculous since you have no idea as to what goes on behind the scenes. I have spent way more time than I desired going through log files and data learning how people are abusing the system and have seen the data with my own eyes that shows how the system has been abused. Just trying to make the system better by closing some of the holes in the system. That's what I'm talking about.
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Reply #37 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 10:15 AM
If I understand the problem, under the old system, if one didn't log in, one could do multiple downloads and they did count. This system makes it impossible to game the system that way.
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Reply #39 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 10:39 AM
It is not an accusation, unless you want to take it that way, I said that the masses and the authors are not having that power.
You said "For you to make that statement is rediculous since you have no idea as to what goes on behind the scenes", well maybe I do, it needs only a common sense to understand what is going on.
Reply #40 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 10:49 AM
| In the other hand the authors that appearing in the Top Author's list are only a few, well known and the same persons for years now. Is this an accusation for those authors???What are you talking about??? |
Why are you upset? If you did nothing wrong then why worry? You should be glad that other evil skinners are prevented from stealing your precious downloads. There are people in this world that do ANYTHING to become number one. You and I may find that such is odd and scary, but sadly enough it is a reality on this site. T-man and the Admins (sounds like a 60s pop group) is just dealing with the facts. You cannot blame them for that.
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Reply #21 Monday, June 2, 2003 11:06 AM