Wallpaper Moderators?

Friday, May 9, 2003 by Zodiaq~ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I was just curious if someone new is moderating the Wallpaper submissions.

I should probably just keep my mouth shut but I just can't any longer, now please don't anyone get defensive and pounce on me but all one has to do is look at the first few pages of submissions to realize that the quality of walls(with the exception of a few) is seriously going down hill. How is some of this stuff getting through moderation?

I don't claim to be an artist or anything, in fact I am pure amateur, but some of those...mmmm....I just don't get it.

I think there are many of you that would agree with me on this, the number of downloads on some of them speak loud and clear as to what most wincustomizer's are thinking.

Please don't be angry at me guys, this is just an observation over the last week or so, which has made me think there is new blood moderating the walls.
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Lecrayon
Reply #21 Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:35 AM
What is quality I ask. We all have different standards. Do you want popular walls that will get x many downloads? Is that quality? It's a never ending debate. When I started to visit WC bryce was less accepted as now. I am a dumbo when it comes to paintproggies, but I can spot those who are made in bryce here. Also sometimes a wall made in 10 minutes can be better than one worked on for weeks. There is really no standard. The only thing you may wonder about is, if moderators HAVE to choose from the less good that are submitted. And the ones that have the ability to upload immediately you can rate low to give a hint.
DarkMist
Reply #22 Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:57 AM
Moderators know what they are doing and have done it for a while and i don't doubt they know the difference between quality and rubbish.

If they accepted a wall then they did for a reason, they do very well in sifting through the piles they get and i don't think questioning their judgement is making anything easier for them.

Give them a break.
Lecrayon
Reply #23 Saturday, May 10, 2003 5:10 AM
give them kitkat (dutch ad)
Styl-X Design
Reply #24 Saturday, May 10, 2003 5:43 AM
have a brake, have a kitkat, you're dutch lecrayon?
lecrayon = le crayon = france for pen (not pen actually, but such a thing you write a bord with, don't know the english for it, sorry...)
Lecrayon
Reply #25 Saturday, May 10, 2003 6:38 AM
chalk. the name is jack chalk...
EventHorizon
Reply #26 Saturday, May 10, 2003 7:00 AM
You mean 'French'
paxx
Reply #27 Saturday, May 10, 2003 7:15 AM
No, Styl Skinner. Le crayon means The pencil; but it can also mean The crayon. But not chalk. chalk is craie.
Green Armani
Reply #28 Saturday, May 10, 2003 7:25 AM
The walls are looked at differently as everyone has their own taste for what is good and what is well lets just say...the opposite. My stand point is from someone who has submitted their fair share of images and seen the qualtiy of work go down. I don't think that's wrong in saying....I mean, we are all artists great and small aren't we? I don't think an observation on the quality of work IMHO is bad, if we can't take criticsm why be put ourselves in a poisition to be criticised. I for one would rather get an honest opinion rather then having my feelings spared.
CerebroJD
Reply #29 Saturday, May 10, 2003 7:54 AM
I'm just gonna say something here, that may or may not be accepted by the general public and admins.

Why dont we get a couple more moderators to help out the others? That way it would be less work for everyone.
KarmaGirl
Reply #30 Saturday, May 10, 2003 7:55 AM

This is going to sound very unlike me, but....frankly, I'm getting really sick of the whining about the wallpaper library.


People whine because their stuff isn't accepted.  They whine because all the walls look the same.  They whine because they think there is junk in the library.  They whine because they think that the moderation is too strict.  They whine because they think that the moderation is too tight.


It's "damned if you do, damned if you don't".


If you don't like stuff in the library, don't download it.


KarmaGirl goes off to go buy some cheese.....

Green Armani
Reply #31 Saturday, May 10, 2003 8:02 AM
From my stand point I don't think I'm whining.....this is exactly why I don't bother with this website.....a group of people can't even discuss something here (in a manner which is not trying to insult anyone) and we get labeled as whiners! I for one don't get moderated that much....I don't think the moderators are strict...they need to be! I would rather help people make walls, which if you ask anyone who has came to me for help will tell you that I have helped them more then they thought I would. It seems to me that before someone says something they have to type a disclaimer of those who he is not trying to offend! Truly sad IMO I used to enjoy the messageboard but not anymore in the state it is.....too tensed up for my liking
Jafo
Reply #32 Saturday, May 10, 2003 8:32 AM

Complaining/commenting on a drop in standards of recent wall approvals IS 'insulting' those whose works have been accepted recently....

The problem is that when viewing works as a whole you eventually see a shift in styles and usually an improvement in an established author's works.

GA...feel free to [privately] list for me the works considered below par accepted of late, and I'll respond with a list of established authors' earlier works which would be moderated now, in light of their subsequent improvement in later works, including some of yours.

KarmaGirl is right...we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

We are either too restrictive [bastards rejected my wall] or now too liberal...[bastards let anything in].

Make up your mind, please!

I thought I'd covered things in my first posts here...

Lecrayon
Reply #33 Saturday, May 10, 2003 8:53 AM
ooooooooooooh Paxx....
Green Armani
Reply #34 Saturday, May 10, 2003 8:58 AM
Well Jafo, I understand that it may be upsetting but I mean...people could totally blast walls which wouldn't help anyone, but if we can not express the quality of work in the walls then what is the point of the ratings? What is the point of commenting on a wall? Are we only able to say positive things? Should we always say good job even if we know it needs work. I just feel because the moderators accepted them, that doesn't mean we can't have a different point of view. You know how many times I've wanted to say a constructive comment because I saw an image that I felt could have been done better for what ever reason.....I decided not to because the way things are here, you almost can't with out being called rude, mean, insulting. I mean come on......none of us are perfect at this.....why shouldn't we let each other know what we really feel as long we do it constructively......
Lecrayon
Reply #35 Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:03 AM
Note: The black crayon gives a deeper black than the lead pencil. This and the colored crayons are often called chalks. The red crayon is also called sanguine. See Chalk, and Sanguine
Styl-X Design
Reply #36 Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:05 AM
Ah well, french was never my best language... (my english isn't that good too... )
Jafo
Reply #37 Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:06 AM

GA...it is one thing to comment that you don't like a particular wall...quite another to infer that either there is a new moderator or moderation standards are slipping.

One is a comment on an artwork, the other is a criticism of the admins' efforts.

Can you see the distinction?...

 

Again, 'you' is a general term, and not directed at a specific individual, OK?...

Jafo
Reply #38 Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:08 AM
Jafo hopes one day to understand this html thingie...
Lecrayon
Reply #39 Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:10 AM
Complaining/commenting on a drop in standards of recent wall approvals IS 'insulting' those whose works have been accepted recently


If you moderated it, is that an insult too?

We can't be perfect, if other people were moderators, other walls would be accepted. There is nothing wrong in my opinion to give some criticism based on knowledge. There is nothing wrong with not applying a suggested correction. There is something wrong though if you know there can be improvement and you do not apply it or try it in your next work. Regardless what kind of work.

Disclaimer: this has been a general objective comment.
Green Armani
Reply #40 Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:20 AM
I'm out of here..........................hope to see y`all done the road

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