Please, do something about it!
Monday, April 28, 2003 by adni18 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Some full of complex person, is giving low rates to all the wallpapers in general.
What kind of person is this???
Why we give to this kind of persons the authority to think that they are Gods?
I am sure that those persons are not able to draw not even a line!
This behavior is sending away all the authors from WinCustomize!
Is this what they want to do? Send away the authors from WinCustomize?
Someone has to do something about it!
We can't allow any John or Jane to have opinion about the work of Picasso; of course, they can have their opinion, but in this case counts much, because only those people are giving the 90% of the rates!!!
I know there is not any Picasso among us, but there are many John and Jane's, if you know what I mean...
Please do something about it, before it will be too late!
What kind of person is this???
Why we give to this kind of persons the authority to think that they are Gods?
I am sure that those persons are not able to draw not even a line!
This behavior is sending away all the authors from WinCustomize!
Is this what they want to do? Send away the authors from WinCustomize?
Someone has to do something about it!
We can't allow any John or Jane to have opinion about the work of Picasso; of course, they can have their opinion, but in this case counts much, because only those people are giving the 90% of the rates!!!
I know there is not any Picasso among us, but there are many John and Jane's, if you know what I mean...
Please do something about it, before it will be too late!
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davad70
Reply #82 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:07 PM
Reply #82 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:07 PM
What I don't understand is this......
In this case (For Seed), it was a "10". You then received the following: 4, 7, 7, 10, 8, 10 Which then averages to the current "8".
#17 by Lady KarmaGirl - 4/28/2003 9:15:09 AM
#53 by Citizen Denny03 - 4/28/2003 2:04:23 PM
hello all, i'm not here 2 start a war, but, i did give adni a 1 rating on his wall 'seeds' because it looks very bad to me, i did not rate it low to be mean, its what i thought.
What happened to denny's rating?
Maybe he rated it after she checked the ratings?????
In this case (For Seed), it was a "10". You then received the following: 4, 7, 7, 10, 8, 10 Which then averages to the current "8".
#17 by Lady KarmaGirl - 4/28/2003 9:15:09 AM
#53 by Citizen Denny03 - 4/28/2003 2:04:23 PM
hello all, i'm not here 2 start a war, but, i did give adni a 1 rating on his wall 'seeds' because it looks very bad to me, i did not rate it low to be mean, its what i thought.
What happened to denny's rating?
Maybe he rated it after she checked the ratings?????
kith
Reply #83 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:12 PM
Reply #83 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:12 PM
Good question Davad... wondered that myself...
I hope no one is suggesting that we make a decision on a rating on whether or not guests can see a certain submission after we rate. Personally I could care less whether someone who has not taken the time to even register an account here can see or download anything. Now citizens is another matter entirely...
I hope no one is suggesting that we make a decision on a rating on whether or not guests can see a certain submission after we rate. Personally I could care less whether someone who has not taken the time to even register an account here can see or download anything. Now citizens is another matter entirely...
Angel_Wings
Reply #84 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:19 PM
Reply #84 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:19 PM
Hmm. This is something I truly don't understand. If someone is higher ranked (Master, J-men) their auto-vote is a '6' which is very fair as far as being in the 'skins' category whereas almost everything is auto-accepted in skins anyhow as long as it's functional, only exception is walls tho? Why can't '5' being the 'mid-range' be the general public number for walls? The 'general' audience can then have access and the rest of the people can vote it as they wish but at least it has a chance to be shown? Or is this about bandwidth?
This doesn't GEL 'logically' with me. Even low rated skins on initial launch are still shown to the general public, right? I've had cursors low-rated still show up to the 'general public' but walls are treated so...hmm...different. So, why make '7' the general public number? I don't get it? It doesn't compute!
This doesn't GEL 'logically' with me. Even low rated skins on initial launch are still shown to the general public, right? I've had cursors low-rated still show up to the 'general public' but walls are treated so...hmm...different. So, why make '7' the general public number? I don't get it? It doesn't compute!
WOM
Reply #85 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:20 PM
Reply #85 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:20 PM
Must have rated after Karma Girls comment. That would be my guess.
--Gabriel
Reply #86 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:20 PM
Reply #86 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:20 PM
Lowest rating I get are from the admins... I always start with about a 4, then citizens bump it up to around an 8.
Angel_Wings
Reply #87 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:30 PM
Reply #87 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:30 PM
I consider my ratings from the admins to be very fair even though sometimes I've had my doubts 
. Usually I'm a 4-5-6 and lucky if I get a 7-8 from the admins and it goes from there. But 'skins' are still 'out' there so people will vote you eventually what 'they' think you deserve.
Walls on the other hand are a different story.
And I don't think ANY admin would HONESTLY allow a wall they thought was rated beneath a '2' to even get in the door. But with Masters etc. they are 'auto-IN' and so THAT is a dif story. Sometimes being 'guided' by 'rejections' is a good thing...it keeps you on your toes.
. Usually I'm a 4-5-6 and lucky if I get a 7-8 from the admins and it goes from there. But 'skins' are still 'out' there so people will vote you eventually what 'they' think you deserve.Walls on the other hand are a different story.
And I don't think ANY admin would HONESTLY allow a wall they thought was rated beneath a '2' to even get in the door. But with Masters etc. they are 'auto-IN' and so THAT is a dif story. Sometimes being 'guided' by 'rejections' is a good thing...it keeps you on your toes.
Jafo
Reply #88 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:40 PM
Reply #88 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:40 PM
davad70...yes, all the 'furore' related to the '4' at the time of this thread. [I checked].
The '1' came later, and therefore hardly figures in the motivation of the thread...
Shmoopy...the '6' is anticipated to be a likely 'standard' [minimum] for an experienced skinner or wall-artist to achieve. [you'd imagine that generally their stuff would at least be above 'average'].
At that point the wall is not visible to the casual visitor until a 'real' rating is applied that may kick it over '6'.
When a wall by others goes through the moderation process...it has the potential to end up immediately at '10' or '1', except a wall an admin/wizop is likely to want to rate a '1' simply does not make it through.
It is deemed equitable that the potential 'Master wall artist' has a 'average-ish' '6' imposed, whereas the first-timer through moderation could quite conceivably start with a '10'.
The only 'perk' of the position is that walls, etc go through immediately...the ratings are definitely not 'synthetically inflated'....
The '1' came later, and therefore hardly figures in the motivation of the thread...
Shmoopy...the '6' is anticipated to be a likely 'standard' [minimum] for an experienced skinner or wall-artist to achieve. [you'd imagine that generally their stuff would at least be above 'average'].
At that point the wall is not visible to the casual visitor until a 'real' rating is applied that may kick it over '6'.
When a wall by others goes through the moderation process...it has the potential to end up immediately at '10' or '1', except a wall an admin/wizop is likely to want to rate a '1' simply does not make it through.
It is deemed equitable that the potential 'Master wall artist' has a 'average-ish' '6' imposed, whereas the first-timer through moderation could quite conceivably start with a '10'.
The only 'perk' of the position is that walls, etc go through immediately...the ratings are definitely not 'synthetically inflated'....
Jafo
Reply #89 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:56 PM
Reply #89 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:56 PM
^^Gabriel...
Now here's where it pays to be 'accurate' with comments which may paint an admin in an unfavourable light.
The "Lowest rating I get are from the admins... I always start with about a 4"..comment is, to say the least 'slightly wrong'....I checked.
I count 11 works in your 'portfolio'
The admin ratings are...
8
8
9
8
7
7
7
6
7
7
7
...and even the '6' was beaten by a public '5'.
Now, when the 'touchy' topic of ratings is ever raised it pays to not skew reality. Those figures all look quite reasonable to me...[I think they were filtered newest to oldest]..
Now here's where it pays to be 'accurate' with comments which may paint an admin in an unfavourable light.
The "Lowest rating I get are from the admins... I always start with about a 4"..comment is, to say the least 'slightly wrong'....I checked.
I count 11 works in your 'portfolio'
The admin ratings are...
8
8
9
8
7
7
7
6
7
7
7
...and even the '6' was beaten by a public '5'.
Now, when the 'touchy' topic of ratings is ever raised it pays to not skew reality. Those figures all look quite reasonable to me...[I think they were filtered newest to oldest]..
Angel_Wings
Reply #90 Monday, April 28, 2003 7:17 PM
Reply #90 Monday, April 28, 2003 7:17 PM
*Keen insight*
I like being judged by the admins...they've seen everything there is to see here...and I generally take to heart their initial rating no matter what I'm rated later. This is not because I think they are "GOD" but because they see a LOT of work and judge it accordingly. So, I always make note of my first rate and keep it in my mind. When an admin gives me a starting 7 I feel quite honored.
My heroes here remain the same...Adni18 feels a bit hurt but nobody should accuse him of being a cry-baby when he's always been kind and forthcoming to many new skinners here including me.
Now I'm gon' ski-daddle before I get accused of thread-hijacking...
Angel_Wings pulls her love-pellet gun out! Gotchya!
I like being judged by the admins...they've seen everything there is to see here...and I generally take to heart their initial rating no matter what I'm rated later. This is not because I think they are "GOD" but because they see a LOT of work and judge it accordingly. So, I always make note of my first rate and keep it in my mind. When an admin gives me a starting 7 I feel quite honored.
My heroes here remain the same...Adni18 feels a bit hurt but nobody should accuse him of being a cry-baby when he's always been kind and forthcoming to many new skinners here including me.
Now I'm gon' ski-daddle before I get accused of thread-hijacking...
Angel_Wings pulls her love-pellet gun out! Gotchya!
Lady_Akasha
Reply #91 Monday, April 28, 2003 7:44 PM
Reply #91 Monday, April 28, 2003 7:44 PM
"When an admin gives me a starting 7 I feel quite honored"
I have to agree with Shmoopy on that statement she made.
I have to agree with Shmoopy on that statement she made.
--Gabriel
Reply #92 Monday, April 28, 2003 11:45 PM
Reply #92 Monday, April 28, 2003 11:45 PM
actually it was a ploy to see what my rating were.
--Gabriel
Reply #93 Monday, April 28, 2003 11:51 PM
Reply #93 Monday, April 28, 2003 11:51 PM
Seriously though, After getting my upload notice I've looked at my skins and they have had low rating right off the bat, I assumed that it was from the admins. The ones that I remembered where considerably low, because I remember feeling hurt that my skins were ranks that low. A couple of 4's stick in my memory. Maybe after I updated the skins people replaced thier low ranking with hire ones...
I wasn't trying to be inaccurate, I really do remember these.
I wasn't trying to be inaccurate, I really do remember these.
Jafo
Reply #94 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:02 AM
Reply #94 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:02 AM
^^Gabriel...I can only assume that ratings were updated or you have removed the works with the low ratings....the admin rates are originals, not updates as fare as I can tell by the dates...
--Gabriel
Reply #95 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:14 AM
Reply #95 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:14 AM
allright Cancel the wahambulance, I'm done being whiney.
Gypsy Darla
Reply #96 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:16 AM
Reply #96 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:16 AM
Well thought i'd add my thoughts on this subject as someone who can't rate...
I have seen some work on here and wondered how come it's rated so high and would have liked to put my thoughts on it but can't. Ppl seem to have too many 9's and 10's and have lost what those numbers actually mean. Alot of work is about the same for quality etc and so a 9 and a 10 should be work that is exceptional and really stands out.
I'll leave you with this thought. Go back to your maths lessons at high school and remember there are three ways of working out an average. Perhaps this place is just using the wrong one. just an idea.
If I submitted my work here i'd concentrate on how many downloads i'd get and feel happy knowing how many ppl liked my work enough to take the time to do that. That after all has to be better than any ratings..... doesn't it
I have seen some work on here and wondered how come it's rated so high and would have liked to put my thoughts on it but can't. Ppl seem to have too many 9's and 10's and have lost what those numbers actually mean. Alot of work is about the same for quality etc and so a 9 and a 10 should be work that is exceptional and really stands out.
I'll leave you with this thought. Go back to your maths lessons at high school and remember there are three ways of working out an average. Perhaps this place is just using the wrong one. just an idea.
If I submitted my work here i'd concentrate on how many downloads i'd get and feel happy knowing how many ppl liked my work enough to take the time to do that. That after all has to be better than any ratings..... doesn't it
Jafo
Reply #97 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:31 AM
Reply #97 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:31 AM
"three ways of working out an average"...hmmm...seems that maths has advanced since I stopped studying it in the early seventies...back then there was only one way...
moshi
Reply #98 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:39 AM
Reply #98 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:39 AM
hm, as an Architect you should know a little about stochastics
Jafo
Reply #99 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:54 AM
Reply #99 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:54 AM
moshi...you're supposed to be looking at that Universe Metal screenie of mine...
White_Moth
Reply #100 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 7:14 AM
Reply #100 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 7:14 AM
So, Adni18...
Will you continue to bless us with your (IMHO) great works?
Will you continue to bless us with your (IMHO) great works?
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Reply #81 Monday, April 28, 2003 6:04 PM