Toon-XP "facelift", anyone have a clue when approx?
Friday, April 11, 2003 by Phydeaux_3 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I come here each & every day waiting & wishing & hoping that the Toon-XP makeover will be announced, does anyone have any idea approximately when this might happen? Also, what exactly will it entail? I'm hoping for CursorXP & LogonStudio themes, is this too much to hope for?
Oh yeah, another thing, WindowBlinds 4 *seems* to have fixed my 'line over the taskbar' issue. So far (touch wood)[knocks on own head] I haven't had to unlock/relock my taskbar at startup even once since upgrading to the newest release.
Thank Jebus, someone up there is listening...
smooches,
» Phy³ . . .
Oh yeah, another thing, WindowBlinds 4 *seems* to have fixed my 'line over the taskbar' issue. So far (touch wood)[knocks on own head] I haven't had to unlock/relock my taskbar at startup even once since upgrading to the newest release.
Thank Jebus, someone up there is listening...
smooches,
» Phy³ . . .
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dan.wright
Reply #22 Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:31 AM
Reply #22 Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:31 AM
You know, one thing I we all need to keep in mind is that this isn't the only thing that Renato and Alexandrie do all day. I'm pretty sure they don't sit around waiting for emails of items to fix in a skin and then jump on doing those fixes. I have read here and there that an update will be coming, but it's just a matter of time. Can't remember the thread it was in, but recently Renato mentioned that they were in the process of updating Universe Metal (can't wait for that release) and they will continue to update skins and suites as time warrants. I read this to mean, 'when we have the spare time, we'll get to it.'
Just my 2 cents ... late
Just my 2 cents ... late
Surj
Reply #23 Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:38 AM
Reply #23 Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:38 AM
alexandrie
if a business advertises a product with features, and those features to not work or not included, thats called false and/or misleading advertising (intentional or not). I dont know if Stardock paid you, or if stardock provided an outlet to help with sales, and to the customer it doesnt really matter, because someone has to fix it, and to the customer it doesnt matter which side pays for it.
If this is how you do your business, then I just wont support you anymore (ive bought pixos and abracadbra through pixtudio). Im not trying to be harsh, and I totally understand your situation, but the fact of the matter is that your running a business, and the customers are getting the short end of the stick here, the ones who bought the suite because they were told it supported wb4 features.
if a business advertises a product with features, and those features to not work or not included, thats called false and/or misleading advertising (intentional or not). I dont know if Stardock paid you, or if stardock provided an outlet to help with sales, and to the customer it doesnt really matter, because someone has to fix it, and to the customer it doesnt matter which side pays for it.
If this is how you do your business, then I just wont support you anymore (ive bought pixos and abracadbra through pixtudio). Im not trying to be harsh, and I totally understand your situation, but the fact of the matter is that your running a business, and the customers are getting the short end of the stick here, the ones who bought the suite because they were told it supported wb4 features.
mormegil
Reply #24 Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:33 AM
Reply #24 Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:33 AM
I would like to point out that alexandrie, and Pixtudio only did the WB skin and the Object Bar skin, they did them for Stardock, not for Pixtudio. If you have a problem with TOON-XP you should address this to Stardock. Not them.
Surj
Reply #25 Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:36 AM
Reply #25 Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:36 AM
as i mentioned mormegil, it doesnt matter who pays for it, so long as its done. I would assume stardock would pay pixtudio to fix the problem, but then thats between them to figure out.
c242
Reply #26 Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:24 PM
Reply #26 Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:24 PM
Umh, I don't know, but do I feel some slightly negative vibrations between Pixtudio and Stardock lately ? Please say that it is not true...
KarmaGirl
Reply #27 Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:34 PM
Reply #27 Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:34 PM
What exactly is wrong with the Toon-XP skin?
Please send full reports to: [email protected]
Please send full reports to: [email protected]
KarmaGirl
Reply #28 Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:40 PM
Reply #28 Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:40 PM
No, c242, there aren't any bad vibes.
We work with Pixtudio on corporate projects all the time.
We work with Pixtudio on corporate projects all the time.
jarget
Reply #29 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:35 PM
Reply #29 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:35 PM
Well either way, I paid MY MONEY for this Toon skin. I will not purchase another skin, I said SKIN from Stardock or Pixtudio until this issue is resolved(and I'm pretty sure I've purchased all of the ones both Stardock and Pixtudio sold) . I mentioned this bug in the skin weeks ago and now finally somone from Pixtudio answers this thread. I know Pixtudio and Stardock reads this messageboard and neither has done nothing about it, that I've seen anyway. Take the money and run I guess. If you guys don't have time to fix your products, then why make them. This is very disapointing. I'm sorry for sounding harsh but that's the way it is to me.
Frogboy
Reply #30 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:46 PM
Reply #30 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:46 PM
I'm not aware of any problems with Toon-XP that need to be addressed. But if there are, and Alexandrie doesn't have time to work on them (Pixtudio is very busy with lots of projects presently), I can look at fixing them myself. Either way, one of us can look at updating the skin if there are problems.
But I think the tone of the initial post here is what kind of took us all aback. It implies that there was some sort of promise that we'd be making some sort of "Face lift" or something.
But I think the tone of the initial post here is what kind of took us all aback. It implies that there was some sort of promise that we'd be making some sort of "Face lift" or something.
KarmaGirl
Reply #31 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:53 PM
Reply #31 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:53 PM
If there are issues with it, please send detailed reports to: [email protected] As stated many times: this message board is *not* a valid means of getting support. If reports are not sent to support, they can't be reviewed, reproduced, or fixed if needed.
Frogboy
Reply #32 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:55 PM
Reply #32 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:55 PM
BTW, Stardock and Pixtudio talk on a daily basis. Heck, I talk to Alexandrie via IM several hours per week. Even as I type this, Pixtudio is redesigning Stardock's home pages.
Alexandrie
Reply #33 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:58 PM
Reply #33 Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:58 PM
I do not receive anything from the money you are giving on that suite, we have been paid a fix amount, so jarget, we will not argue on this point, if you are not happy with it, write Stardock so they can at least know about the problems.
Surj
Reply #34 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:08 PM
Reply #34 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:08 PM
im glad something will be done. I've heard peeps complaining about problems and theyve gone un-noticed and obviously some just didnt care.
Frogboy, this is what took me back, and why I got involved despite not having the skin. It has nothing to do with additions or the likes.
"ToonXP wblinds skin was built at first version of Wblinds supporting ShellStyles, so Alpha version, it's normal there is tons of bugs now."
Alexandrie new their were bugs, or at least a good chance and took the 'I dont care' route, blaiming her reasoning on money a few posts later. As the one of the authors, didnt even at the very least acknowledge a responsibility to inform Stardock/you.
In anycase, thanks for addressing the issue Frogboy.
Frogboy, this is what took me back, and why I got involved despite not having the skin. It has nothing to do with additions or the likes.
"ToonXP wblinds skin was built at first version of Wblinds supporting ShellStyles, so Alpha version, it's normal there is tons of bugs now."
Alexandrie new their were bugs, or at least a good chance and took the 'I dont care' route, blaiming her reasoning on money a few posts later. As the one of the authors, didnt even at the very least acknowledge a responsibility to inform Stardock/you.
In anycase, thanks for addressing the issue Frogboy.
Alexandrie
Reply #36 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:13 PM
Reply #36 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:13 PM
Thornz, I do not even have this skin anymore, I told people to wrote stardock directly. How can I test something I do not have anymore? I lost everything because of a virus in January.
Surj
Reply #37 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:20 PM
Reply #37 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:20 PM
you could at least inform stardock, you were the author. You've come off as callous and uncaring about the situation, not even willing to extend a little help to those who need it by sending a simple email. Its just a nice thing to do.
jarget
Reply #38 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:29 PM
Reply #38 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:29 PM
I totally agree with Thornz. On that note, Pixtudio lost me as a customer. I think I purchased all your suites except the last one, Abracadabra.
jarget has left the building.
jarget has left the building.
Surj
Reply #39 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:31 PM
Reply #39 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:31 PM
ya know, I've defended you and pixtudio countless times on the neowin wb boards because I had respect for you. I think my biggest dissapointment has been your attitude, its void of care and seems to express only greed. While I would assume this is from from true, as youve givin so much to the community, thats whats been expressed here.
Gregory2001
Reply #40 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:36 PM
Reply #40 Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:36 PM
Am I missing something? I have purchased every Pixtudio suite. Period. Absolutely beautiful and absoulutely no problems. What exactly is supposed to be wrong with "Toon"? And who exactly is this "genius" who is bitching about something he never ever paid for in the first place? 
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Reply #21 Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:35 AM
If not mistaken your name is the one I found within the skin and emailed some of my concerns to hehe. Anyway yes I understand that you make a project to a customers order and that was all but don't you also , at the same time as makeing the theme, have a concern for issues that are not part of the changes they made to WB? Can't blame changes in WB for missing custom color graphics among other things? Then again I bought the theme for 2 reasons:
a) because I really liked how it looked and
I had no idea when I bought the theme that it was not going to be supported by Pixtudio which is now the fear I have. Yes when it came out WB4 was still in Alpha/beta but I think many had the impression that as the skin was touted to take full advantage of WB4 that we would see a refresh once the app it was sold to work with was released otherwise why buy something built and advertised to work with something still in beta?