US is going to war tomarrow... dang...
Sunday, March 16, 2003 by IPlural | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
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paxx
Reply #1502 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:08 PM
Reply #1502 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:08 PM
BTW, have you noticed a drop in gas in your country too? US, Europe, Asia, Australia? Just curious.
paxx
Reply #1503 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:14 PM
Reply #1503 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:14 PM
Maybe I should convert my price in gallons so US people understand a bit more how much 15 cents per litre is a big difference.
Before the war, prices did increase a bit indeed, to go all the way up to the equivalent of $3,36/gallon, and now it's droped to the equivalent of $2,80/gallon. More than 55 cents per gallon less.
Before the war, prices did increase a bit indeed, to go all the way up to the equivalent of $3,36/gallon, and now it's droped to the equivalent of $2,80/gallon. More than 55 cents per gallon less.
Xerraire
Reply #1504 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:15 PM
Reply #1504 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:15 PM
That is a rather big difference. We still only pay around 1.59 a gallon, it had rose to around 1.80 before the war.
Jafo
Reply #1505 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:15 PM
Reply #1505 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:15 PM
Paxx....yes, the same is evident in Australia....and just keep an eye on the stock market....seems there are plenty reaping profits from this war...hence its reason for being...
As the oil reserves become more closely under Western control/protection so the availability improves, therefore prices drop.
Good old supply and demand.
The demand is the same, but the supply is more 'reliable'...
As the oil reserves become more closely under Western control/protection so the availability improves, therefore prices drop.
Good old supply and demand.
The demand is the same, but the supply is more 'reliable'...
bakerstreet
Reply #1506 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:29 PM
Reply #1506 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:29 PM
SA and the rest said that they would increase production during the war to prevent a shortage of oil. They did, and in addition there were stern warnings about price gouging to retailers. Not only did the price not go up, it dropped. Now that oil is cheap, the oil producing nations in the middle east are worried about an oil glut and they are discussing dropping production.
At least that was the talk on CNBC yesterday. I'm sure there are more scary, clandestine reasons floating around...
At least that was the talk on CNBC yesterday. I'm sure there are more scary, clandestine reasons floating around...
wombat_1
Reply #1507 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:40 PM
Reply #1507 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:40 PM
Average price per litre in Oz is around A$1.00 per litre, depending on the time of the day, week, or holiday periods! >
Ballpark numbers, US$00.70 per litre, or US$3.15 per Imperial gallon (round numbers 4.5 litres per gallon) and that's not for premium grade either.......if I remember correctly the 'US Gallon' is around 3.15 litres?????
Whatever, Iraq is not being fought over with oil as the number 1 priority, it's all to do with longer term strategic positioning and short term publicity for the present administration.
Ballpark numbers, US$00.70 per litre, or US$3.15 per Imperial gallon (round numbers 4.5 litres per gallon) and that's not for premium grade either.......if I remember correctly the 'US Gallon' is around 3.15 litres?????
Whatever, Iraq is not being fought over with oil as the number 1 priority, it's all to do with longer term strategic positioning and short term publicity for the present administration.
Xerraire
Reply #1508 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:43 PM
Reply #1508 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:43 PM
I think those figures were a little off?
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.785412 liter
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.785412 liter
sig101
Reply #1509 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:16 PM
Reply #1509 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:16 PM
Gasoline pricing in some respects can be like the stock market. That is, often prices are raised before there is any "real" circumstance such as reduced supply and/or increased demand. They're raised just in the anticipation of such potential conditions. When supply was assured, the prices went down.
Jafo
Reply #1510 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:26 PM
Reply #1510 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:26 PM
The pricing is manipulated for nefarious and clandestine reasons....absolute power currupts absolutely...
It stinks enough that price rises locally occur just prior to a holiday period...and systematically appropriate times during a working week.
On a global scale it can have the potential to stifle a recalcitrant economy for the benefit of others.
It ain't done for fun, but for political/economic ends...
It stinks enough that price rises locally occur just prior to a holiday period...and systematically appropriate times during a working week.
On a global scale it can have the potential to stifle a recalcitrant economy for the benefit of others.
It ain't done for fun, but for political/economic ends...
DavidK
Reply #1511 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:42 PM
Reply #1511 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:42 PM
Gas prices here went up 40 cents a gallon the day that a barrel of oil went up 40 cents. When oil went down $2 a barrel I was hoping for the best 
unfortunately gas hasn't gone down at all. It's currently $1.98 a gallon. When I was in California last week I paid between $2.11 and $2.20 for regular.
sig - I think I got confused about the VX incident. My memory from that period is kind of fuzzy and I think I put two incidents together. I think the VX thing was in Cambodia sometime in '69 maybe. I vaguely remember it was a "test" of some new chemical and was used on a VC convoy or something. As I recall there was no casualty info and I think I mixed it up in my head with the CNN incident.
It wasn't long after that that I had my first dose of one of their new gasses in Washington DC. I think it was called CS, it was pink, like gasoline and it had a crystaline structure, left crystals all over my camera lens. Made me appreciate how ugly gas is and I thought about the VX stuff which was also something new.
unfortunately gas hasn't gone down at all. It's currently $1.98 a gallon. When I was in California last week I paid between $2.11 and $2.20 for regular.sig - I think I got confused about the VX incident. My memory from that period is kind of fuzzy and I think I put two incidents together. I think the VX thing was in Cambodia sometime in '69 maybe. I vaguely remember it was a "test" of some new chemical and was used on a VC convoy or something. As I recall there was no casualty info and I think I mixed it up in my head with the CNN incident.
It wasn't long after that that I had my first dose of one of their new gasses in Washington DC. I think it was called CS, it was pink, like gasoline and it had a crystaline structure, left crystals all over my camera lens. Made me appreciate how ugly gas is and I thought about the VX stuff which was also something new.
wombat_1
Reply #1514 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 10:15 PM
Reply #1514 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 10:15 PM
I did say I was a bit hazy .... never can figure that one out!
One 'gallon' should be the same all over, rather like one litre being one litre!
Rather like the US 'ton' equalling 1000 pounds when an Imperial 'ton' is 2240 pounds.
Didn't much go for metrication when it first was introduced out here but it's really very logical ....
One 'gallon' should be the same all over, rather like one litre being one litre!
Rather like the US 'ton' equalling 1000 pounds when an Imperial 'ton' is 2240 pounds.
Didn't much go for metrication when it first was introduced out here but it's really very logical ....
Jafo
Reply #1515 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 10:35 PM
Reply #1515 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 10:35 PM
A litre is a litre, the world over...except the Yanks like to call it 'liter', but being a French standard its naming should be, likewise....
Imperial gallons vs US gallons are different....but a US ton is 2000lb, and a short ton is 2200lb and a tonne is 1000 kg, as I recall...
Imperial gallons vs US gallons are different....but a US ton is 2000lb, and a short ton is 2200lb and a tonne is 1000 kg, as I recall...
DavidK
Reply #1516 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 11:59 PM
Reply #1516 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 11:59 PM
Speaking of CS this is an interesting article: Chemical Hypocrites http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,931873,00.html
as is this: India's pre-emptive strike remark http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=42760333
and this!: China steps up preparation for U.S. conflict http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31931
and a look at the Arab opinion: Fury and depression http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,932747,00.html
Certainly looks like a Brave New World to me... who needs diplomacy or international cooperation when you have the guts to "do something" as most people here are so proud to acclaim.
Thank you Mr Bush... now lets close some more schools so we can afford another 100 billion to keep protecting us from evil and danger...
as is this: India's pre-emptive strike remark http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=42760333
and this!: China steps up preparation for U.S. conflict http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31931
and a look at the Arab opinion: Fury and depression http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,932747,00.html
Certainly looks like a Brave New World to me... who needs diplomacy or international cooperation when you have the guts to "do something" as most people here are so proud to acclaim.
Thank you Mr Bush... now lets close some more schools so we can afford another 100 billion to keep protecting us from evil and danger...
DavidK
Reply #1517 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 12:01 AM
Reply #1517 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 12:01 AM
you'll need to paste the leftover bits on the first and last links to see them.
craeonics
Reply #1518 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 12:52 AM
Reply #1518 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 12:52 AM
When I say "education", I don't mean schooling and the like, but (argh, how am I going to explain this) getting people to see the world outside their own domain. People in country A or group B tend to have certain views of people in country C or group D, which are often totally wrong.
To stick close to home, take the way city folk and country folk view each other.
With "education", I mean peircing through that veil of ignorance.
To stick close to home, take the way city folk and country folk view each other.
With "education", I mean peircing through that veil of ignorance.
craeonics
Reply #1519 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 12:56 AM
Reply #1519 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 12:56 AM
Hmm, where did that page 61 come from? It wasn't there when I started typing my previous post.
Old_Crab
Reply #1520 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 1:02 AM
Reply #1520 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 1:02 AM
Here, Here. DavidK. No more U.S. blood and money for other countries problems. Let them solve their own disputes among themselves. Where is the terrorist army that was going to invade the U.S. anyway? > 
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Reply #1501 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 7:07 PM
It has dropped off only slightly though after the war started. I too, expected it would go higher.
Didn't Saudi Arabia sort of release extra barrels of oil, to help take care of any loss felt of Iraqi oil during this war? If so, that could be your answer.