US is going to war tomarrow... dang...
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Orion
Reply #1522 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 7:44 AM
Reply #1522 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 7:44 AM
"Human shields go home"
So we're all watching the news on IPTV this morning and we see a huge "Human shields go home" banner being carried by several IRAQI's in the central circle in Baghdad. We haven't laughed that hard in some time.
That should put things in perspective...
So we're all watching the news on IPTV this morning and we see a huge "Human shields go home" banner being carried by several IRAQI's in the central circle in Baghdad. We haven't laughed that hard in some time.
That should put things in perspective...
joetheblow
Reply #1523 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 4:02 PM
Reply #1523 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 4:02 PM
The idea of human shields was very noble... as sometimes noted though, noble isn't always the best choice. while they were there they found that the Saddam government only wanted them to go to military targets and oil fields. Some were rightfully upset about it and others felt if there were more human shields maybe it would have worked out.
I don't think the number of 'shields' would have changed Saddam's approach on how to use them. I haven't heard much from the human shield side of this and there experiences on the news.
Now didn't I say that week 3 will be the week to watch? Now week 4 begins. Few things will happen. Week 5 is another week to watch.
Funny:
While I was taking a test, I couldn't get this song out of my head. It was that Justin Timberlake song... Rock you body or something... anyway, while it was playing in my head I changed the words (all this while taking this hard test)
Here it is---
Don't be so quick to capitulate
I want to blow up your government
everyday
....
Talk to me Saddam-
Your not loosing fast enough
your taking to long
Talk to me Saddam-
I'm gonna have you blown up
By the end of this song
do do do
dodo doo doo do do
do do do
dodo doo doo do do
Such a violent remix if you ask me. Must be releaving stress.
I don't think the number of 'shields' would have changed Saddam's approach on how to use them. I haven't heard much from the human shield side of this and there experiences on the news.
Now didn't I say that week 3 will be the week to watch? Now week 4 begins. Few things will happen. Week 5 is another week to watch.
Funny:
While I was taking a test, I couldn't get this song out of my head. It was that Justin Timberlake song... Rock you body or something... anyway, while it was playing in my head I changed the words (all this while taking this hard test)
Here it is---
Don't be so quick to capitulate
I want to blow up your government
everyday
....
Talk to me Saddam-
Your not loosing fast enough
your taking to long
Talk to me Saddam-
I'm gonna have you blown up
By the end of this song
do do do
dodo doo doo do do
do do do
dodo doo doo do do
Such a violent remix if you ask me. Must be releaving stress.
Bangkokboy
Reply #1524 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 4:57 PM
Reply #1524 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 4:57 PM
i hope that we're screening the exiled iraqi would-be power brokers that we're allowing back over. the fact that saddam did not like them doesn't automatically qualify them as a good person. 
bakerstreet
Reply #1525 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 5:48 PM
Reply #1525 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 5:48 PM
I'm wondering where all the people who said the Iraqi people hated us and didn't want to be liberated went... got awfully quiet. They may hate us, but they seem to be pretty satisfied with the 'liberated' part.
Jafo
Reply #1526 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 5:53 PM
Reply #1526 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 5:53 PM
It appears the Iraqi defense minister has capitulated.
Could mean the 'official' war is over, with just the usual 'crap' to tidy up....
Here's hoping....
Could mean the 'official' war is over, with just the usual 'crap' to tidy up....
Here's hoping....
wombat_1
Reply #1527 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 6:19 PM
Reply #1527 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 6:19 PM
Now there's an oxymoron .... the "Iraqi Defence Minister". >
Xerraire
Reply #1528 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 6:30 PM
Reply #1528 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 6:30 PM
bakerstreet
I also noticed how quiet it got here.
Jafo, I can suppose the crap you are referring to, I sure hope as well that its not too messy.
I also noticed how quiet it got here.
Jafo, I can suppose the crap you are referring to, I sure hope as well that its not too messy.
joetheblow
Reply #1529 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 6:49 PM
Reply #1529 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 6:49 PM
I heard that too Jafo. It sounded strange... wasn't a day ago that 'the day of death' was at hand?
The war part might be over, but the 'real' fun of rebiulding can be more hazordous. Will the fallen rigime become terroist and inflame the population to do stuff that would otherwise be solved peacefully?
Will Iraq become Palestine where no real justice happens and the mob rules? Will terrorist get a foot hold in the minds of people and become a way to get money and become a self feeding system of voilence?
Seems like to me the work has just started. The right things has to be put in place to avoid that, otherwise more suffering and death and wars.
Yes, I too, am watching who the exiles Iraqi business men an opposiion are. Just because Saddam didn't like them, doesn't mean they are trustworthy.
I would guess they have a chance to be better men and not do anything that would be considered illegal, unlawful, unjust, and stupid.
Mistakes can be made but not if it is done on purpose.
The war part might be over, but the 'real' fun of rebiulding can be more hazordous. Will the fallen rigime become terroist and inflame the population to do stuff that would otherwise be solved peacefully?
Will Iraq become Palestine where no real justice happens and the mob rules? Will terrorist get a foot hold in the minds of people and become a way to get money and become a self feeding system of voilence?
Seems like to me the work has just started. The right things has to be put in place to avoid that, otherwise more suffering and death and wars.
Yes, I too, am watching who the exiles Iraqi business men an opposiion are. Just because Saddam didn't like them, doesn't mean they are trustworthy.
I would guess they have a chance to be better men and not do anything that would be considered illegal, unlawful, unjust, and stupid.
Mistakes can be made but not if it is done on purpose.
bakerstreet
Reply #1530 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 9:21 PM
Reply #1530 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 9:21 PM
Baghdad Bob, as he is referred to now, hasn't been seen since that last press conference. Brief hiatus or air-strike? Time will tell.
One blankety-blank I would like to see sit for a long, painful interview is the Iraqi ambassador to the UN. He made a lot of outrageous statements throughout this affair that I would like to see fed back to him in slow monotone.
Granted, all these guys were doing what they were told to do, but the ambassador frequented 4-star restaurants and snorkeled down large quantities of champagne while his countrymen were being forced into tanks at gunpoint. He should be shown that supporting that regime from the comfort of the UN isn't any different than supporting it from a trench. If ya ask me, it is about time to deport him, since the government he works for no longer exists.
I really hope we round a lot of these guys up and send them to Kuwait. They have had an active war-crimes investigation there for 12 years, pleading for international help. It would be a shame to send Saddam's scum to Europe so they can screw up yet another war crimes tribunal.
Milosevic: " *cough* *whine* but i done FEEEEEL like going on trial... *cough* "
One blankety-blank I would like to see sit for a long, painful interview is the Iraqi ambassador to the UN. He made a lot of outrageous statements throughout this affair that I would like to see fed back to him in slow monotone.
Granted, all these guys were doing what they were told to do, but the ambassador frequented 4-star restaurants and snorkeled down large quantities of champagne while his countrymen were being forced into tanks at gunpoint. He should be shown that supporting that regime from the comfort of the UN isn't any different than supporting it from a trench. If ya ask me, it is about time to deport him, since the government he works for no longer exists.
I really hope we round a lot of these guys up and send them to Kuwait. They have had an active war-crimes investigation there for 12 years, pleading for international help. It would be a shame to send Saddam's scum to Europe so they can screw up yet another war crimes tribunal.
Milosevic: " *cough* *whine* but i done FEEEEEL like going on trial... *cough* "
paxx
Reply #1531 Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:42 AM
Reply #1531 Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:42 AM
I wouldn't expect much from a Koweit war-crime tribunal, you know. Koweit isn't exactly a democracy either.
Anyway, glad this war is over. I wonder if we'll ever know the true number of victims on all sides.
As for wether or not the US/UK troops are wecomed, it's too early yet to tell. We'll see what happens with that interim government.
Anyway, glad this war is over. I wonder if we'll ever know the true number of victims on all sides.
As for wether or not the US/UK troops are wecomed, it's too early yet to tell. We'll see what happens with that interim government.
paxx
Reply #1532 Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:44 AM
Reply #1532 Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:44 AM
And bakerstreet, you anti-European attitude is worse than any anti-American attitude I have ever seen.
paxx
Reply #1533 Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:52 AM
Reply #1533 Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:52 AM
And one more thing, by doubting the legitimacy of the The Hague tribunal, you are adopting exactly Milosevic's arguments. Him too keeps rejecting the validity of the tribunal.
So what's is your point exactly againt The Hague? The trial only really started two months ago, and we know that kind of trial can last a while. Anyway.
So what's is your point exactly againt The Hague? The trial only really started two months ago, and we know that kind of trial can last a while. Anyway.
bakerstreet
Reply #1534 Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:54 AM
Reply #1534 Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:54 AM
I'm sorry, paxx, have I said anything that wasn't clear?
I think it is pretty clear what I think about the Hague. You do realize they arrested Milosevic in April, 2001 and his first day in court was Feb. 12, 2002? He refuses to take his blood pressure medicine, and they give him a 'few days off'. He has refused a lawyer, and hasn't shown up 40 times. Hasn't shown up??? for a trial??? I mean, gah, paxx, doesn't that seem wussy, even for the Hague? Do you think I could go on trial here in the US and just not show up? Damn, if he *does* show up, they expect the trial to last til 2005.
The man is wanted on 66 counts of war crimes, personally ordered *and* witnessed untold numbers of people executioned just because of their ethnic background, and they can't even keep him in the court room. No, I see little to approve of there. Limp, whitebread, impotent.
I bet the people he victimized could do a much more efficient job. I would expect a great deal more from a Kuwaiti war-crimes tribunal... They have made their intentions quite clear, I think.
I think it is pretty clear what I think about the Hague. You do realize they arrested Milosevic in April, 2001 and his first day in court was Feb. 12, 2002? He refuses to take his blood pressure medicine, and they give him a 'few days off'. He has refused a lawyer, and hasn't shown up 40 times. Hasn't shown up??? for a trial??? I mean, gah, paxx, doesn't that seem wussy, even for the Hague? Do you think I could go on trial here in the US and just not show up? Damn, if he *does* show up, they expect the trial to last til 2005.
The man is wanted on 66 counts of war crimes, personally ordered *and* witnessed untold numbers of people executioned just because of their ethnic background, and they can't even keep him in the court room. No, I see little to approve of there. Limp, whitebread, impotent.
I bet the people he victimized could do a much more efficient job. I would expect a great deal more from a Kuwaiti war-crimes tribunal... They have made their intentions quite clear, I think.
paxx
Reply #1536 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:16 AM
Reply #1536 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:16 AM
Do you know a tribunal in a democratic country that deals with these big bandits quickly?
We have a trial in Montreal going right now, for a bunch of Hells Angels criminals. Trial's been going on for a few years now and is still not about to end. That's the problem with democracy, ciminals know how to take advantage of it too. For sure, in countries such as Koweit or other Arab monarchies/dictatorships, justice is much more swift.
We have a trial in Montreal going right now, for a bunch of Hells Angels criminals. Trial's been going on for a few years now and is still not about to end. That's the problem with democracy, ciminals know how to take advantage of it too. For sure, in countries such as Koweit or other Arab monarchies/dictatorships, justice is much more swift.
Orion
Reply #1537 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:19 AM
Reply #1537 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:19 AM
> Anyway, glad this war is over. I wonder if
> we'll ever know the true number of victims
> on all sides.
Where do you get that? There's still all the northern cities take. Many, many more people are going to die. My guess is this war is only about half-over. After seeing how sensitive you have been over simple arguments on this message board (the "Brad is a Nazi" thread comes to mind), I can only imagine how this war tears you up. Peace is good. Peace at any cost is not. All parties involved have to want peace or it's just not going to work. Sometimes the other guy gust needs some convincing.
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Funny how western (US, Canada, Europe) peace-nics still spout their crap when Iraqi people are holding up signs that say "human shields go home", "our hero of peace and freedom" with a picture of George Bush, and thanking Mr. Bush on TV. Apparently, the population of the country that the U.S. "invaded" wanted to be "invaded". If they haven't figured it out by now, they'll never get it. Even after 12 years of UN impotence, inaction, and self-serving, self-important behavior...and 12 years of Sadam's torture, oppression, UN non-compliance laughing in the face of the UN...yeah, we should have given it another 12 years...
I guess I can't really blame them...I'm sure they see me as being blind on the other side.
> we'll ever know the true number of victims
> on all sides.
Where do you get that? There's still all the northern cities take. Many, many more people are going to die. My guess is this war is only about half-over. After seeing how sensitive you have been over simple arguments on this message board (the "Brad is a Nazi" thread comes to mind), I can only imagine how this war tears you up. Peace is good. Peace at any cost is not. All parties involved have to want peace or it's just not going to work. Sometimes the other guy gust needs some convincing.
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Funny how western (US, Canada, Europe) peace-nics still spout their crap when Iraqi people are holding up signs that say "human shields go home", "our hero of peace and freedom" with a picture of George Bush, and thanking Mr. Bush on TV. Apparently, the population of the country that the U.S. "invaded" wanted to be "invaded". If they haven't figured it out by now, they'll never get it. Even after 12 years of UN impotence, inaction, and self-serving, self-important behavior...and 12 years of Sadam's torture, oppression, UN non-compliance laughing in the face of the UN...yeah, we should have given it another 12 years...
I guess I can't really blame them...I'm sure they see me as being blind on the other side.
craeonics
Reply #1538 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:27 AM
Reply #1538 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:27 AM
That makes you wonder then though. Who are they (US/Britain/Oz) fighting against? It's not like there's some foreign force occupying the country. The repression comes from within.
Orion
Reply #1539 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:34 AM
Reply #1539 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:34 AM
Crae, please explain...I do not understand the point you're trying to make.
wombat_1
Reply #1540 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:39 AM
Reply #1540 Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:39 AM
The "War" (or should that Police Action?) is far from over, and the "Peace" will be an even harder struggle.
No one even knows where Hussein is so far .... and I'll believe the Al-Jazera reports before CNN.
Useless but interesting information, Rupert actually pays to use Al-Jazera footage .... which,(Al-Jazera) when it comes down to the crunch, is really just a typical cable news operation.
No one even knows where Hussein is so far .... and I'll believe the Al-Jazera reports before CNN.
Useless but interesting information, Rupert actually pays to use Al-Jazera footage .... which,(Al-Jazera) when it comes down to the crunch, is really just a typical cable news operation.
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Reply #1521 Wednesday, April 9, 2003 7:25 AM
"......The mood of wild euphoria among the five million-strong population of Baghdad was mixed with menace. One man waved an AK47 in the air as he shouted: "Liberty, Liberty. This is the day we have been waiting for for years and years."
Marines were showered with flowers during their unopposed street-by-street approach towards the regime's last stronghold on the east bank of the Tigris. Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said: "It looks as though we may be towards the close of hostilities."