Computer Tweaks
Sunday, March 2, 2003 by SuperheroCanadian | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
AS i wait for my the rest of my parts on m new computer, ive been trying to get every ounce of performance out of my current machine so i can make wallpapers again, ya ther is a reason i havnt made anything in a while, my computer has slowd to a snails pace and 3d studio will not run anymore. So im wondering if anyone has any suggestion.
And just outta curiosity what sorta tweeks does everyone else have on there systems
And just outta curiosity what sorta tweeks does everyone else have on there systems
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White_Moth
Reply #22 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:36 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:36 PM
A good graphics card will also help take the load off your processor too, more ram the better.
Oh, see we have covered that already.
Well, good night all, big day tomorrow fighting with the credit card company and why they won't pay my ISP bill. >
Oh, see we have covered that already.
Well, good night all, big day tomorrow fighting with the credit card company and why they won't pay my ISP bill. >
JamMeister33
Reply #23 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:37 PM
Reply #23 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:37 PM
well that's the problem isn't it... the laptop doesn't measure up...
DarkMist
Reply #25 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:40 PM
Reply #25 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:40 PM
i have 64MB GeForce 4 MX Graphics.......that good?
JamMeister33
Reply #27 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:53 PM
Reply #27 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:53 PM
I wouldn't worry about it much until you get your Real system up and running.....
paxx
Reply #28 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:53 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:53 PM
JM: "If you have a lot of RAM aleady you don't need any Ram optimizing software...... "
Except that I already got twice the RAM my motherboard seem to max out at. I got 256 in there, but I can only see 128. So, 128 is what I'm stuck with till I get a new machine at home.
Except that I already got twice the RAM my motherboard seem to max out at. I got 256 in there, but I can only see 128. So, 128 is what I'm stuck with till I get a new machine at home.
BoXXi
Reply #29 Sunday, March 2, 2003 11:04 PM
Reply #29 Sunday, March 2, 2003 11:04 PM
Patric: Is that an old system? it's unusual to max out at 128Mb. Even my old system could handle 320Mb of Ram. Is their a setting in the bios that needs changing or something? I know that you are experienced with computers, but that sounds a little odd. 
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #30 Sunday, March 2, 2003 11:40 PM
Reply #30 Sunday, March 2, 2003 11:40 PM
just wait till i get my computer then i can render some of these more advanced walls ive had sitting on my harddrive for a few months.
With laptops ur options are kinda limited thats y im building a desktop
With laptops ur options are kinda limited thats y im building a desktop
Jafo
Reply #31 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:19 AM
Reply #31 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:19 AM
Bryan...some boards have limits on max ram per bank and even what variations of ram will or won't work.
Eg, an old board of mine has 4 slots but will only accept 8 meg in two, even though I have 4 identical 8 meg sticks [edo].
Sometimes the same ram size/config, but different manufacturer can be enough to make it fail...
Eg, an old board of mine has 4 slots but will only accept 8 meg in two, even though I have 4 identical 8 meg sticks [edo].
Sometimes the same ram size/config, but different manufacturer can be enough to make it fail...
Peff
Reply #32 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:23 AM
Reply #32 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:23 AM
I disagree...I got a Dell Laptop 2.4Ghz, 1 gig ram, 60gig hd, 64mb ati readeon 9000. Got another 60 gigger on its way....8XDVD/24XCR/CD-RW. 15.4 UXGA (1600X1280 MAX) screen.
This little sucker screams.....cost too much, though..
For the same price (USD3,500) I could have gotten a monster desktop. I travel a lot doing presentations...so I needed a laptop...
BTW, it's true thast putting your swap file on a seperate 'physical' drive (not a partition) will greatly increase system performance!
This little sucker screams.....cost too much, though..
For the same price (USD3,500) I could have gotten a monster desktop. I travel a lot doing presentations...so I needed a laptop...
BTW, it's true thast putting your swap file on a seperate 'physical' drive (not a partition) will greatly increase system performance!
kthxbye
Reply #33 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:45 AM
Reply #33 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:45 AM
Same here. My laptop surprised me with how quickly it will do renderings and the like. It's nothing compared to Peff's though; Toshiba Satellite 1415 - 1.8Ghz Celeron, 256MB, 30MB HD, 16 MB GeForce 4, DVD/CDRW.
But mine only cost about 1/3rd of what Peff paid for his. ^_~
It's still nothing compared to my desktop though (which is 'only' an Athlon XP 1700+)
But mine only cost about 1/3rd of what Peff paid for his. ^_~
It's still nothing compared to my desktop though (which is 'only' an Athlon XP 1700+)
paxx
Reply #34 Monday, March 3, 2003 5:34 AM
Reply #34 Monday, March 3, 2003 5:34 AM
Yes, Bryan,
It seems I have a max of 128 per bank. I had two bank, one is broken, so I have on left. Max of 128.
It's indeed an old system. Celeron 333 or something.
It seems I have a max of 128 per bank. I had two bank, one is broken, so I have on left. Max of 128.
It's indeed an old system. Celeron 333 or something.
IPlural
Reply #35 Monday, March 3, 2003 9:33 AM
Reply #35 Monday, March 3, 2003 9:33 AM
bit late, but, as much ram as you can stuff into it is great, but, you do need to optimize it no matter what when running graphics apps.
Programs, bleed in memory, taking little chunks ( allocating small areas ) that they do not always release. DLL's will TSR ( Terminate and Stay Resident) on you for a couple of different reasones. One being faster loading of the application the next time around, which, is somethin gyou have to off set against usable memory loss for other applications and rendering. One of the other reasons is that some programs just don't care, sloppy code, or something is hooked that doesn't release a certain register in memory so a small part sticks. As with hard drive allocation units, there is a set size and even a small amount of data that does not fill that unit, will in fact make the rest of it look used and for it to be passed over when something is looking for a slot to load code into....
Memory optimization, releaseing memory is a good thing, Unloading DLL's of closed programs can be tricky, but it is also another good thing once you know which ones you can unload and which you have to leave...
anyway... the above is personal opinion which is mine and mine alone as far as known to me, no small animals were used in testing and Dolphin safe nets are always used...
take it for what you wil, something's to consider.
Programs, bleed in memory, taking little chunks ( allocating small areas ) that they do not always release. DLL's will TSR ( Terminate and Stay Resident) on you for a couple of different reasones. One being faster loading of the application the next time around, which, is somethin gyou have to off set against usable memory loss for other applications and rendering. One of the other reasons is that some programs just don't care, sloppy code, or something is hooked that doesn't release a certain register in memory so a small part sticks. As with hard drive allocation units, there is a set size and even a small amount of data that does not fill that unit, will in fact make the rest of it look used and for it to be passed over when something is looking for a slot to load code into....
Memory optimization, releaseing memory is a good thing, Unloading DLL's of closed programs can be tricky, but it is also another good thing once you know which ones you can unload and which you have to leave...
anyway... the above is personal opinion which is mine and mine alone as far as known to me, no small animals were used in testing and Dolphin safe nets are always used...
take it for what you wil, something's to consider.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #36 Monday, March 3, 2003 9:33 AM
Reply #36 Monday, March 3, 2003 9:33 AM
u might wanna ge an upgrade paxx, u can build a decent box for around 200$ now
JamMeister33
Reply #37 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:34 AM
Reply #37 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:34 AM
I have found that using RAM optimizers causes my hard drive to chatter like an angry squirrel....
Just my opinion and no squirrels were harmed in anyway (well not more than a few anyhow).
Just my opinion and no squirrels were harmed in anyway (well not more than a few anyhow).
IPlural
Reply #38 Monday, March 3, 2003 3:51 PM
Reply #38 Monday, March 3, 2003 3:51 PM
Oh ,yep Jam thats normal for them, I turn off the automatic part and then I set the size for recovery after trying different settings for the best results.
Then when I want I click and dump to recver in 64 meg chunks
Otherwise it does do the sector grind and frankly can slow your drive down because of fragmentation of files and such..
Then when I want I click and dump to recver in 64 meg chunks
Otherwise it does do the sector grind and frankly can slow your drive down because of fragmentation of files and such..
IPlural
Reply #39 Monday, March 3, 2003 3:53 PM
Reply #39 Monday, March 3, 2003 3:53 PM
Ram Optimizers should have a setting to minimize to the system tray, and then you can recover with a click... I dunno, it's a personal choice, but with heavy editing of graphics it can make a huge difference in speed of refreshing the work and also rendering if you clear and recover memory before hand...
IPlural
Reply #40 Monday, March 3, 2003 3:53 PM
Reply #40 Monday, March 3, 2003 3:53 PM
Ram Optimizers should have a setting to minimize to the system tray, and then you can recover with a click... I dunno, it's a personal choice, but with heavy editing of graphics it can make a huge difference in speed of refreshing the work and also rendering if you clear and recover memory before hand...
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Reply #21 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:35 PM
My current running system is a laptop 700 mhz 256 ram 8mb video card. Im just trying to tweak some performance outta it