Apple OS-X Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 by solutiondesign | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Looks like apple didn't appreciate my apple DX theme, it must have been too realistic for theme. Well it’s coming back under a different name, and with minimal reference to apple. Hope it uploads.
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bmetelsky
Reply #61 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:07 AM
That's just a bunch of b.s. There is definitely at least a double standard here. Seems to me that somebody moderated Adam Solley's skin, threw out the excuse that it had the apple logo on it, and then sh-t hit the fan when the practice was questioned. I usually don't do much more than lurk, but I have to put in my two cents here. I gave an example earlier in the thread of a perfect example of an apple copy - why not the same treatment? I think it is time to examine some of the policies. Fair is fair.
Jafo
Reply #62 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:22 AM
bmetelsky....check dates of submissions/approvals...

Remember the phrase 'enough is enough', or just return to lurk-mode...
Jafo
Reply #63 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:24 AM
Read post #83, m'kay?...
bmetelsky
Reply #64 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:26 AM
Wow Jafo,

"Enough is enough" is really great policy for moderation. I don't feel the need to check the dates of submissions or approvals. How about this policy is spelled out for all to see? Also, I am offended by your suggestion "or just return to lurk mode".
Jafo
Reply #65 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:33 AM
And I'm offended by..."a double standard here. Seems to me that somebody moderated Adam Solley's skin, threw out the excuse that it had the apple logo on it, and then sh-t hit the fan".

Exactly how many ways is there to immitate an OSX GUI?
Why do we need to accept every quality and/or half-arsed copy of exactly the same animal, when if truth be told the graphics all originate elsewhere than the person submitting them?

A port is a port is a port....but like all the other contentious 'ports' before it, OSX ports in particular are of a company who has already not been happy with the practise, but you want us all to keep on accepting more of the same...with graphics, logos and trademarks all ripped from a company that doesn't like it?
bmetelsky
Reply #66 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:37 AM
I apologize if my statement was offensive. It was not meant to be. I am not disagreeing with the idea that policy might need to change in re. to submissions carrying the apple logo, name, or copied look. I do think that there should be some standard and that the standard should be applied across the board.
Jafo
Reply #67 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:38 AM
It's not a bunch of 'b-s', either.
Yet another upload of an Apple copy turns up and it is requested that it have the trademarks/logos removed. Simple as that.
Why? Because as they said in The Holy Grail..."I told them we already had one".
Must we have yet more?...
Jafo
Reply #68 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:40 AM
It IS applied across the board...as of 'recently'.
In the same way that we said enough was enough with endless XP walls...and endless Whistler or Luna copies/clones...
Jafo
Reply #69 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:45 AM
BTW....Adam Solley's 'theme' is well done, quite authentic [last time I looked at a Mac with OSX].
It was not an issue of 'quality/standard', but one of 'content'.
Needless to say, if the quality was poor we wouldn't be requesting 'amendments', it'd just be deleted/rejected outright...
bmetelsky
Reply #70 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:50 AM
'Recently' meaning as of the initial date for this thread? Also, no question at all about you, Jafo, applying the policy consistently - are all wizops on the same page?
bmetelsky
Reply #71 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:52 AM
And, for the record, I was not the only individual here thinking that a double standard was being applied. I accept responsibility for "talking crap" with the whole b.s. note I posted above. I need to tone it down at times.
DavidK
Reply #72 Monday, March 3, 2003 12:59 AM
bmetsky, and everyone else who feels it's necessary to flog this issue. Having Apple type themes on the site makes a lot of people very happy. It's amazing how popular it is and how many people appreciate it when they find one. It's been a violation of various rules to have them here, but maybe, they just got by when we were really busy, or they weren't scrutinized very close, who knows? But yes, there are many that are here, unless somebody wants to make a crusade out of it. Or unless Apple contacts us and asks us to take them down.

How would they know? A thread like this is how they would know. How many people would be pissed that the issue was made so visible that all the Apple stuff was taken away?

Tens of thousands would be my guess.
bmetelsky
Reply #73 Monday, March 3, 2003 1:03 AM
DavidK,
Nice desktop you have. I am not flogging this issue. I am not interested in making a crusade out of the whole thing, either. I'm really just waiting on a response from Jafo on #95 and I'll be through with it. Thanks for your input.
Koasati
Reply #74 Monday, March 3, 2003 1:05 AM
Listen to Jafo!
and
Listen to David!
Jafo
Reply #75 Monday, March 3, 2003 1:10 AM
William...no, it's been since quite a bit before this thread, however it was this thread and the other related one that has brought it to prominence, that's all.

Personally I'm not much of a fan of the Apple look, but I know it's popular, but as with Registered trademarks for any such product, we have to show a reasonable degree of 'restraint' in their use/acceptance.
As I mentioned earlier, Microsoft is extremely unlikely to have any issues with a skinner's use of their imagery, as it's intended to enhance their [Microsoft's] product.
The same cannot be said for several other companies, however...
bmetelsky
Reply #76 Monday, March 3, 2003 1:13 AM
Thanks Jafo,

You can call me Bill. No more on this subject by me. Thanks for being patient. Again, sorry for offending you.
Jafo
Reply #77 Monday, March 3, 2003 1:18 AM
That's OK, Bill....ditto, BTW...[it's been a 'long day']...
@shu
Reply #78 Monday, March 3, 2003 7:10 AM
'And I need my beauty sleep, it hides my wrinkles under those bags under my eyes'

@shu completes Jafo's statement. @shu thinks that this thread needs a little cheer!!!

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