Apple OS-X Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Tuesday, February 25, 2003 by solutiondesign | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Looks like apple didn't appreciate my apple DX theme, it must have been too realistic for theme. Well it’s coming back under a different name, and with minimal reference to apple. Hope it uploads. 
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IPlural
Reply #42 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:51 AM
Reply #42 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:51 AM
mm, well the OS-X 2.5 part is kinda iffy though might be changed enough to be skipped, but the "Apple" is sure a poke in the eye that will get their attention when running a web search I would think.
Peff
Reply #43 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:56 AM
Reply #43 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:56 AM
What about all the icons posted here for object dock. Aren't they copyright infringements (Corel logo, for example) or do they fall under 'fair use'?
IPlural
Reply #44 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:41 PM
Reply #44 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:41 PM
dunno, but taking a trade marked name which is used in corporate branding and applying it in such a manner sure is, even without the graphics and such.
IPlural
Reply #45 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:46 PM
Reply #45 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:46 PM
see?
Apple Computer, Inc.
Trademark List - February 2003 http://www.apple.com/legal/appletmlist.html
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The absence of a product or service name or logo from this list does not constitute a waiver of Apple's trademark or other intellectual property rights concerning that name or logo.
"
and out of the list
" Apple® "
Apple Computer, Inc.
Trademark List - February 2003 http://www.apple.com/legal/appletmlist.html
"
The absence of a product or service name or logo from this list does not constitute a waiver of Apple's trademark or other intellectual property rights concerning that name or logo.
"
and out of the list
" Apple® "
Peff
Reply #46 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:58 PM
Reply #46 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:58 PM
Adam....send it to me @ [email protected] along with a list of recipients and I'll send it out for you, if you like.
IPlural
Reply #47 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:59 PM
Reply #47 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:59 PM
ouch...
mmm, whats the compressed size?
with a free site of say 5 megs you could upload it once an djust put one link on the home page
mmm, whats the compressed size?
with a free site of say 5 megs you could upload it once an djust put one link on the home page
Jafo
Reply #49 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:55 PM
Reply #49 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:55 PM
Peff...using a Corel icon to launch a Corel app is certainly 'fair use'.
It only becomes a problem if you used the Corel graphic to make an icon to launch an Adobe app, for example...
It only becomes a problem if you used the Corel graphic to make an icon to launch an Adobe app, for example...
kona0197
Reply #51 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:08 AM
Reply #51 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:08 AM
why dosen't a person or group of people push apple into making a pc version of os x? that would settle everything plus give windows a run for its money. i would buy it.
KarmaGirl
Reply #52 Friday, February 28, 2003 8:46 AM
Reply #52 Friday, February 28, 2003 8:46 AM
Adam. It's not the "design" of the skin as much as it is the design+ the inclusion of the Apple logo.
They also will not come after you. They will come after "Stardock" who owns this site. They have done it before, and they will do it again if there is enough reason to come after us.
As a rule a thumb, the Apple logo should never be included in a skin or theme. I have looked at your "revision" and it still has the Apple logo in it. If the design itself is so good, there is no reason to use that logo.
They also will not come after you. They will come after "Stardock" who owns this site. They have done it before, and they will do it again if there is enough reason to come after us.
As a rule a thumb, the Apple logo should never be included in a skin or theme. I have looked at your "revision" and it still has the Apple logo in it. If the design itself is so good, there is no reason to use that logo.
Peff
Reply #53 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:15 AM
Reply #53 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:15 AM
Do I sense bitterness???
Actually, in all fairness I think WC should get rid of ALL the apple related stuff. Doing so would do away with threads like this (although the 'Where's the apple themes' threads would increase).
Just my POV
Actually, in all fairness I think WC should get rid of ALL the apple related stuff. Doing so would do away with threads like this (although the 'Where's the apple themes' threads would increase).
Just my POV
moshi
Reply #54 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:16 AM
Reply #54 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:16 AM
KarmaGirl: then it would be time to do some clean-up
let´s start with ObjectBar:
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=225
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=196
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=198
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=190
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=92
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=126
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=120
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=110
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=23
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=19
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=118
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=114
let´s start with ObjectBar:
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=225
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=196
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=198
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=190
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=92
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=126
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=120
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=110
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=23
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=19
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=118
https://www.wincustomize.com/window.asp?Cmd=COMMENTS&Lib=4&SkinID=114
moshi
Reply #55 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:19 AM
Reply #55 Sunday, March 2, 2003 10:19 AM
and there are more that use copyrighted stuff by Apple. actually about 15-20% of the whole Objectbar section. do you know understand what i meant with double standards.
i don´t care if you leave the up or take them down. it just illustrates nicely how you practice what you preach
i don´t care if you leave the up or take them down. it just illustrates nicely how you practice what you preach
@shu
Reply #56 Sunday, March 2, 2003 11:23 AM
Reply #56 Sunday, March 2, 2003 11:23 AM
Adam, I think that you are taking this in the wrong spirit. Apple seems to have raised an objection to your theme because your theme seems to be the closest to reality. You are giving the junta free, for what Apple has spent a fortune and hence it feels threatened.
I think you should consider that as an achievement. What you seem to be doing, Adam, is providing the other skins, which may or may not be as good as yours, a part of your glory!!! Their day under the sun!!
All I can say is, you should be proud...
I think you should consider that as an achievement. What you seem to be doing, Adam, is providing the other skins, which may or may not be as good as yours, a part of your glory!!! Their day under the sun!!
All I can say is, you should be proud...
@shu
Reply #57 Sunday, March 2, 2003 1:51 PM
Reply #57 Sunday, March 2, 2003 1:51 PM
Glad to be of help Adam. And continue the good work. And don't criticise WC policies on other sites as far as possible.
Jafo
Reply #58 Sunday, March 2, 2003 3:19 PM
Reply #58 Sunday, March 2, 2003 3:19 PM
It is simply a case of 'enough is enough'.
There are enough Apple clones around as it is, and no more will be accepted because it is just more of the same, in exactly the same way/circumstances as we put a cap on Whistler or XP 'clones'.
It is not 'double standard', in the same way that older walls tended to survive moderation better than the more recent ones.
The 'bar' has been raised'. That is all.
Now, all this spitting and moaning is fanning the flames and will have the unfortunate result of drawing Aple's attention to the whole situation and guess what> Any and every 'Apple-related' skin/theme/wall on any and every site will again be targeted, so then you'll all be happy, as no-one anywhere will be able to obtain any form of Apple 'style', whether older OR newer.
Thar is called 'cutting of your nose to spite your face'.
There are enough Apple clones around as it is, and no more will be accepted because it is just more of the same, in exactly the same way/circumstances as we put a cap on Whistler or XP 'clones'.
It is not 'double standard', in the same way that older walls tended to survive moderation better than the more recent ones.
The 'bar' has been raised'. That is all.
Now, all this spitting and moaning is fanning the flames and will have the unfortunate result of drawing Aple's attention to the whole situation and guess what> Any and every 'Apple-related' skin/theme/wall on any and every site will again be targeted, so then you'll all be happy, as no-one anywhere will be able to obtain any form of Apple 'style', whether older OR newer.
Thar is called 'cutting of your nose to spite your face'.
Jafo
Reply #60 Sunday, March 2, 2003 4:26 PM
Reply #60 Sunday, March 2, 2003 4:26 PM
Adam...re your post #75....bad examples.
Some were using 'apple' the fruit, not 'apple' the company.
Some had actual apples, without the cutout, ergo were again the fruit, not the company logo.
And ALL of them were pre 2003.
Some were using 'apple' the fruit, not 'apple' the company.
Some had actual apples, without the cutout, ergo were again the fruit, not the company logo.
And ALL of them were pre 2003.
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Reply #41 Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:48 AM