GUI olympics?
Wednesday, January 29, 2003 by --Gabriel | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Will there ever be another GUi olympics?
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IPlural
Reply #3 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:32 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:32 AM
Maybe someone should approach a Magazine to host one?
They eat that up
oh yeah, speaking of such, someone should call and talk with the people at CPu ( Computer Power User) magazine... maybe get them to do a head to head on skinning applications and stuff. good mag also if anyone hasn't heard of it yet.
They eat that up
oh yeah, speaking of such, someone should call and talk with the people at CPu ( Computer Power User) magazine... maybe get them to do a head to head on skinning applications and stuff. good mag also if anyone hasn't heard of it yet.
Weaksid
Reply #4 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:55 AM
Reply #4 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:55 AM
I think I should look up exactly what a GUI is.. 
and I should already know. I think I'm slacking.
and I should already know. I think I'm slacking.
Weaksid
Reply #5 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:12 AM
Reply #5 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:12 AM
Ok, now I found what a GUI was.. Looked it up in my computer ency.. What do you do in the Olympics?
IPlural
Reply #7 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:01 AM
Reply #7 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:01 AM
it was a catch name back when there was only a prompt to work with
IPlural
Reply #8 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:01 AM
Reply #8 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:01 AM
Hell I remember when everyone was debating if this new Windows thing was going to really work or even be accepted !
Weaksid
Reply #9 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:03 AM
Reply #9 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:03 AM
You mean something like Comodore? or however you spell it.. I remember using one of those. Heck, still might have it.
IPlural
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:43 AM
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:43 AM
Hey I spell good but mykeyboard is messed up and puts letter out of order and switches em for the wrong ones at times !
da_zman20
Reply #13 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:30 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:30 PM
Desktop x, or maybe winstlyes could be in the gui olympics... and I miss my commdadore 64 
Alot....
and I miss my commdadore 64 
Alot....
craeonics
Reply #14 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:29 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:29 PM
That was the plan if there ever was going to be a number two. Ah well, not going to happen anytime soon.
KarmaGirl
Reply #15 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:38 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:38 PM
There are no current plans for another GUI Olympics. I could put my opinions on here as to why, but I reather go talk to myself in the corner......
da_zman20
Reply #16 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:36 PM... fine then we didn't want to hear your opinions anyways JK
he he he... it was fun though... so many skins were uploaded for it I think that is what made this site grow like it did that's why I now have a skin browser, that I like very much
Reply #16 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:36 PM
... fine then we didn't want to hear your opinions anyways JKhe he he... it was fun though... so many skins were uploaded for it
I think that is what made this site grow like it did that's why I now have a skin browser, that I like very much
IPlural
Reply #17 Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:59 AM
Reply #17 Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:59 AM
mm, Karmagirl, was it really that bad? not kidding or anything else, just wondering?
Jafo
Reply #18 Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:24 AM
Reply #18 Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:24 AM
lPlural...in a word, yes.
Somewhere along the line, people lost sight of exactly what was put freely on offer as a goodwill gift to each and every skinning site in the 'community'.
It rapidly devolved into a bitch-fight amongst egos without a clue, instead of being 'received' in the spirit that it was given.
This interpretation, I might add, comes from a long-time skinner who is NOT an employee of Stardock, but merely an astute observer....who was a 'little' aghast at people's willingness to look the proverbial gift-horse....
[At a guess, I'll bet KarmaJavaBrainGirl's opinion will be 'similar']...
Somewhere along the line, people lost sight of exactly what was put freely on offer as a goodwill gift to each and every skinning site in the 'community'.
It rapidly devolved into a bitch-fight amongst egos without a clue, instead of being 'received' in the spirit that it was given.
This interpretation, I might add, comes from a long-time skinner who is NOT an employee of Stardock, but merely an astute observer....who was a 'little' aghast at people's willingness to look the proverbial gift-horse....
[At a guess, I'll bet KarmaJavaBrainGirl's opinion will be 'similar']...
IPlural
Reply #19 Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:18 PM
Reply #19 Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:18 PM
ack no, say it isn't so ! 
seriously though, sad to hear that.
Sounds like it was almost like the Linux,MS or PC,MAC gibberish..
business watch those kinds of things for up and coming... MS for example, they are not silly enough to blow off skilled people who do not happen to work for them in place of people who would have to learn from the beginning who are working for them.
Lots of really good positive exposure all the way around for everyone concerned I would think...
anyway, sorry to hear that took place, ack
seriously though, sad to hear that.
Sounds like it was almost like the Linux,MS or PC,MAC gibberish..
business watch those kinds of things for up and coming... MS for example, they are not silly enough to blow off skilled people who do not happen to work for them in place of people who would have to learn from the beginning who are working for them.
Lots of really good positive exposure all the way around for everyone concerned I would think...
anyway, sorry to hear that took place, ack
Frogboy
Reply #20 Friday, January 31, 2003 2:24 PM
Reply #20 Friday, January 31, 2003 2:24 PM
Essentially you had a scenario that roughly went like this:
Stardock organized a contest with $10,000 in prizes.
The "anti-Stardock" crowd became very vocal and had some success convincing people that it was just a huge marketing gimmick. As if slightly increased exposore on skin sites was somehow worth $10,000 or something.
Naturally this was pretty hurtful to the people organizing it who were doing it on their own time. Myself, Pat, and others who had to spent massive hours organizing the contest on nights and weekends also had to waste countless hours negotiating with certain skin sites who wanted the rules changed (changed so that they got to unilaterally decide who got the prizes -- and bear in mind the skin sites were the ones who received half the cash so they would in effect get to decide how much money they'd receive) and threatened to quit if they didn't get them changed.
Skinz.org bowed out and Customize.org essentially stopped participating.
Naturally, Stardock, the ones putting up the money and the resources was pretty flabbergasted with the whole thing. The skin authors themselves behaved very well btw. The problems came from people who had made themselves self-appointed "leaders" of the community who had either never created skins or could barely be considered "skin authors". But what they lacked in contributions they made up for in posting lots and lots of angst on every post.
In one indident, an admin of a skin site posted on every site that I was personally going to "fix" the contest because I publicly complimented a skin author's work in a post. The quest to find bias by some people went beyond absurd.
And obviously the entire excercise became very non-fun. Especially when youc onsider the sheer amount of work we were having to do while being libeled by people sitting on the side-lines.
The contest itself was very successful. Over 130 skins were created and some truly outstanding ones were among them. There were enough categories that a wide range of authors won cash and prizes and a lot of new skin authors got involved who showed off real talent. It also had the unexpectedly good affect of bringing attention to some of the smaller skin sites.
In short, the results of the contest were good. But the only way I could see another one being done is if it could be done is if we coudl avoid all the bullshit that got thrown on us while doing it. A lot has changed since the GUI Olympics. The people who made the most noise are gone now (since they weren't really into skinning but more into personal power they've no doubt moved onto other things). And our most loyal friend and partner in the contest, deviantART, who stood by us through thick and thin, has grown to the point where other than WinCustomize, it gets more traffic than all the other skin sites combined. And Neowin, Betanews, Skinbase, and ArtUproar were also very supportive. So a future contest could be done a little bit differently where those who truly want to cooperate on a community event would be invited. I dunno, just brain storming at this point.
I like the concept of a GUI Olympics, I just don't want an event that was essentially designed as an act of good will turned into something controversal.
Stardock organized a contest with $10,000 in prizes.
The "anti-Stardock" crowd became very vocal and had some success convincing people that it was just a huge marketing gimmick. As if slightly increased exposore on skin sites was somehow worth $10,000 or something.
Naturally this was pretty hurtful to the people organizing it who were doing it on their own time. Myself, Pat, and others who had to spent massive hours organizing the contest on nights and weekends also had to waste countless hours negotiating with certain skin sites who wanted the rules changed (changed so that they got to unilaterally decide who got the prizes -- and bear in mind the skin sites were the ones who received half the cash so they would in effect get to decide how much money they'd receive) and threatened to quit if they didn't get them changed.
Skinz.org bowed out and Customize.org essentially stopped participating.
Naturally, Stardock, the ones putting up the money and the resources was pretty flabbergasted with the whole thing. The skin authors themselves behaved very well btw. The problems came from people who had made themselves self-appointed "leaders" of the community who had either never created skins or could barely be considered "skin authors". But what they lacked in contributions they made up for in posting lots and lots of angst on every post.
In one indident, an admin of a skin site posted on every site that I was personally going to "fix" the contest because I publicly complimented a skin author's work in a post. The quest to find bias by some people went beyond absurd.
And obviously the entire excercise became very non-fun. Especially when youc onsider the sheer amount of work we were having to do while being libeled by people sitting on the side-lines.
The contest itself was very successful. Over 130 skins were created and some truly outstanding ones were among them. There were enough categories that a wide range of authors won cash and prizes and a lot of new skin authors got involved who showed off real talent. It also had the unexpectedly good affect of bringing attention to some of the smaller skin sites.
In short, the results of the contest were good. But the only way I could see another one being done is if it could be done is if we coudl avoid all the bullshit that got thrown on us while doing it. A lot has changed since the GUI Olympics. The people who made the most noise are gone now (since they weren't really into skinning but more into personal power they've no doubt moved onto other things). And our most loyal friend and partner in the contest, deviantART, who stood by us through thick and thin, has grown to the point where other than WinCustomize, it gets more traffic than all the other skin sites combined. And Neowin, Betanews, Skinbase, and ArtUproar were also very supportive. So a future contest could be done a little bit differently where those who truly want to cooperate on a community event would be invited. I dunno, just brain storming at this point.
I like the concept of a GUI Olympics, I just don't want an event that was essentially designed as an act of good will turned into something controversal.
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Reply #1 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:35 AM