TOON-XP is here!
Monday, January 13, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
The official announcement is tomorrow but for your enjoyment...
https://www.stardock.com/products/themes/toon-xp/
https://www.stardock.com/products/themes/toon-xp/
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citats
Reply #42 Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:52 PM
Reply #42 Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:52 PM
Quote #36 by Phydeaux_3 - 1/16/2003 4:07:23 PM
Yeah, sorry paxx, I replied before I saw that there was a page 2. Is there anywhere that I can preview XP Augustus? I've looked around a little (searched) & could not find any comments/reviews or anything. I'm still cornfused, Toon-XP IS a "premium suite" is it not? Was it not created by the same company/team/skinner(s) as the other premium suites? Seems to me like a bit of a cash-grab, not including it as one of the freebies. I think I'll skip on the subscription, it would be a better idea (imho) to let the subscriber choose their 2 free premium suites, instead of Wincustomize deciding for us which 2 suites a subscriber is entitled to. I'm not big on "no choice" type bonus stuff. Thanks again. /Quote
I bought a subscription and I bought TOON XP... both were worth every penny... awesome work on the suite. and the subscription has been worth the extras there as well. On a side note have you ever heard of paying the bills. All that free bandwidth your sucking up comes from somewhere... guess you can thank all the subscribers and stardock for that.
Yeah, sorry paxx, I replied before I saw that there was a page 2. Is there anywhere that I can preview XP Augustus? I've looked around a little (searched) & could not find any comments/reviews or anything. I'm still cornfused, Toon-XP IS a "premium suite" is it not? Was it not created by the same company/team/skinner(s) as the other premium suites? Seems to me like a bit of a cash-grab, not including it as one of the freebies. I think I'll skip on the subscription, it would be a better idea (imho) to let the subscriber choose their 2 free premium suites, instead of Wincustomize deciding for us which 2 suites a subscriber is entitled to. I'm not big on "no choice" type bonus stuff. Thanks again. /Quote
I bought a subscription and I bought TOON XP... both were worth every penny... awesome work on the suite. and the subscription has been worth the extras there as well. On a side note have you ever heard of paying the bills. All that free bandwidth your sucking up comes from somewhere... guess you can thank all the subscribers and stardock for that.
Jafo
Reply #43 Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:56 PM
Reply #43 Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:56 PM
Phydeaux_3....some skinners have been in this 'game' long enough to become sufficiently competent to actually make a 'living' out of website/skin/theme design, creating specific works for Commercial companies, etc.
They have made/are making specific 'special' suites expressly for Wincustomize.com subscribers as an added incentive/bonus to subscribe.... [although inherent benefits should be more than sufficient].
Their personal, professional decision to request a fee for a specific suite 'should' be, and is their right.
Any and every skinner will be quick to tell you that a full 'suite' of matching skins takes quite an extensive amount of time to create, and warrants recompense by any stretch of the imagination.
These same skinners freely create works for public DL as well. It's not a 'cash-grab', but a genuine 'worthiness'...
They have made/are making specific 'special' suites expressly for Wincustomize.com subscribers as an added incentive/bonus to subscribe.... [although inherent benefits should be more than sufficient].
Their personal, professional decision to request a fee for a specific suite 'should' be, and is their right.
Any and every skinner will be quick to tell you that a full 'suite' of matching skins takes quite an extensive amount of time to create, and warrants recompense by any stretch of the imagination.
These same skinners freely create works for public DL as well. It's not a 'cash-grab', but a genuine 'worthiness'...
Old_Crab
Reply #44 Friday, January 17, 2003 4:40 AM
Reply #44 Friday, January 17, 2003 4:40 AM
AAAAHHHHHHRRRGGGG! Downloaded,installed, and for some reason the thememgr. deleted all my ORION icon sets. Only the Old Crab has such problems. Hope it don't happen again! 
HuronJoe
Reply #45 Friday, January 17, 2003 8:57 AM
Reply #45 Friday, January 17, 2003 8:57 AM
Werewolf, Thank you for the update to my question. I assume that if it can be fixed for the rest of us, Vagrant Frogboy? or the authors will post an update.
HuronJoe
Reply #46 Friday, January 17, 2003 9:04 AM
Reply #46 Friday, January 17, 2003 9:04 AM
Jafo I totally agree with your comments:
"These same skinners freely create works for public DL as well. It's not a 'cash-grab', but a genuine 'worthiness'
Their personal, professional decision to request a fee for a specific suite 'should' be, and is their right"
Very well put.
"These same skinners freely create works for public DL as well. It's not a 'cash-grab', but a genuine 'worthiness'
Their personal, professional decision to request a fee for a specific suite 'should' be, and is their right"
Very well put.
KarmaGirl
Reply #47 Friday, January 17, 2003 9:09 AM
Reply #47 Friday, January 17, 2003 9:09 AM
HuronJoe, yes, as soon as we feel that it is fixed, then there will be a fix for it. What, you find it hard to read the clock when it is upside down and backward? The funny thing is, once you figure out how it is moving, you can actually tell time by it It will hopefully be fixed soon (I keep complaining about it, too)
It will hopefully be fixed soon (I keep complaining about it, too)
paxx
Reply #48 Friday, January 17, 2003 9:13 AM
Reply #48 Friday, January 17, 2003 9:13 AM
The idea of letting people choose which 2 suites they'd like with their subscription is a good one. But the problem is that since suites are released every so often, it would make it hard to choose since you're always wondering "I like those two suites, but what if they release a better one next month?" and in the end I'm sure there would be unhappy people that would say "I chose those two skins because they were they were the only ones then, but I didn't know there would be even better ones coming later!".
Besides, it would probably make it hard to manage.
But, in theory, the idea is fair, since nobody has the same tastes.
Besides, it would probably make it hard to manage.
But, in theory, the idea is fair, since nobody has the same tastes.
Phydeaux_3
Reply #49 Friday, January 17, 2003 2:40 PM
Reply #49 Friday, January 17, 2003 2:40 PM
I'm not trying to be an @ss (it just comes naturally?) 
I agree that the skinners oughtta get paid. I also agree that the Toon-XP suite looks absolutely incredible & is more than likely worth every penny, as is the subscription fee. The only thing I didn't really like was the fact that somebody else decides for me what two freebies I'd end up with. I don't wanna stir up mud. I am indeed very grateful for all of the free stuff I've used & abused over the past few years. I just sorta thought that if the sub is good for a whole year & you get 2 freebies that it would be nice if sub'rs could choose (at their leisure & discretion) which two. So I take it then that there is nowhere that I can preview this XP-Augustus suite? Thanks paxx.
I agree that the skinners oughtta get paid. I also agree that the Toon-XP suite looks absolutely incredible & is more than likely worth every penny, as is the subscription fee. The only thing I didn't really like was the fact that somebody else decides for me what two freebies I'd end up with. I don't wanna stir up mud. I am indeed very grateful for all of the free stuff I've used & abused over the past few years. I just sorta thought that if the sub is good for a whole year & you get 2 freebies that it would be nice if sub'rs could choose (at their leisure & discretion) which two. So I take it then that there is nowhere that I can preview this XP-Augustus suite? Thanks paxx.
KarmaGirl
Reply #50 Friday, January 17, 2003 3:33 PM
Reply #50 Friday, January 17, 2003 3:33 PM
The subscription is $19.95 for *two years*
There is nowhere that there was ever a claim that we would allow people to choose their "freebies" or that we would be doing anything differently than we are right now. The "two premium suites in a year" means within the first 365 days. There will be another one, and it will be free to subscribers. That's all we claim, and that is what we intend to do.
Toon-XP costs less than $9.00. That is less than 3 meals at fast food, less than 7 cups of Tim Horton's coffee....you get the point.....It's not much money for the amount of work these accomplished skinners have put into it. If you love it, buy it. If you don't find it worth $9, then don't buy it.
That's my 2 opinionated cents.
There is nowhere that there was ever a claim that we would allow people to choose their "freebies" or that we would be doing anything differently than we are right now. The "two premium suites in a year" means within the first 365 days. There will be another one, and it will be free to subscribers. That's all we claim, and that is what we intend to do.
Toon-XP costs less than $9.00. That is less than 3 meals at fast food, less than 7 cups of Tim Horton's coffee....you get the point.....It's not much money for the amount of work these accomplished skinners have put into it. If you love it, buy it. If you don't find it worth $9, then don't buy it.
That's my 2 opinionated cents.
Ande
Reply #51 Friday, January 17, 2003 4:57 PM
Reply #51 Friday, January 17, 2003 4:57 PM
Phydeaux, you can see a preview of XP- Augustus in Subscriber Resources, Under "Resources" on left side of WC Web page 
kthxbye
Reply #52 Friday, January 17, 2003 5:04 PM
Reply #52 Friday, January 17, 2003 5:04 PM
Wow - that's it Karma - I've gotta move out to where you are. $9 will get you 3 fast food meals!!! ^.^
kith
Reply #53 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:17 AM
Reply #53 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:17 AM
https://www.wincustomize.com/images/news/1022002105817AM1.jpg
paxx
Reply #54 Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:02 AM
Reply #54 Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:02 AM
Karma: I know that it was never claimed that the 2 premium suites could be chosen. I'm just saying that the idea isn't bad. It somewhat makes sense since people don't have all the same tastes, that's all.
goodmorphing
Reply #55 Sunday, January 19, 2003 2:58 PM
I was hoping this would helm me get brave enough to try DX! It worked....
A whole new thing about WC to love......
Reply #55 Sunday, January 19, 2003 2:58 PM
I was hoping this would helm me get brave enough to try DX! It worked....A whole new thing about WC to love......
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Reply #41 Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:10 PM