Jafo

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[doing this in 'bits' because the ISP is flaky] ...

What I ended up getting, less what I might add [matching mouse and a Blueray burner]-------------->

Prices are in AUD so [these days] multiply by 80% for USD.

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Thermaltake Level 10 VL300A9N1N Titanium Limited Edition Case   $1299   

Corsair ASX 1200I Platinum Certified 1200w Modular PSU    $  439   

ASUS X99 Deluxe LGA2011v3 MotherBoard      $  529   

Intel i7 5960 3.00Ghz @3.50Ghz LGA2011v3 CPU     $1279   

Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 LGA2011 CPU Cooler     $    88   

32G Corsair Dominator Platinum [4x8G] 2666MHz DDR4 Ram   $1020   

ASUS Strix GTX980 4GB GPU       $  869   

512G Samsung XP941 M.2 PCIe x4 SSD [C]=Win7 Ultimate [H]=Games $  611 

240G Corsair Neutron GTX SSD [E]=[Office + Proggies]  [hotswap] $  279

240G Corsair Neutron GTX SSD [F]=[Games 2]   [hotswap] $  279

3TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [G + D]  [hotswap]  $  128

2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [I]   [hotswap]  $    99

2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [J]   [hotswap] $    99

LG Sata DVD-RW [M] [black]        $    19

3X SATA 3 Cables         $      9   

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.        $ Technet    

MS Office 2007 Ultimate 64bit       $ Technet    

          $7037    TOTAL

... and FSX still brings it to its knees.

M.2 is just a newer, smaller connection method.  It's no different from a normal PCIe connection, performance wise....except can be better...

Third gen m.2x4 has a throughput up to 32 gig/sec.  SATA3 is quite a bit less than that.

Specs I got once installed....

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 Shizuku Edition x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :   968.661 MB/s
          Sequential Write :   899.165 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :   657.540 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :   827.227 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :    34.918 MB/s [  8524.8 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :   105.197 MB/s [ 25683.0 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :   199.841 MB/s [ 48789.4 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :   146.707 MB/s [ 35817.2 IOPS]

  Test : 1000 MB [C: 50.6% (99.1/195.8 GB)] (x5)
  Date : 2015/01/08 9:05:50
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

Edit....

Just ran Passmark's Performance Test 8.0 to see what it found with the m.2 .... came out at 7736 when the nearest best in the default listing was a Kingston SH100S3120G at 3822.

Perhaps I should have shut down FSX, etc first before running benchmarks....

Just about....though I've seen quite an improvement [as you'd hope]... staying in the double figures frame-rate-wise even in the high load/detail addons such as 3rd party airports...

Paul...........You sure that's going to fit under the bonnet of your Saab? Oh! my bad its a PC build..........thought it was a new engine for your car!

this ain't the one with modules where the cpu/gpu bits are cooled in mineral oil or something, is it?

ps.. not waiting 6 months or what not for skylake?

If you keep waiting for 'the next best thing' you will just be holding on to that older less good thing as it gets even older and less gooder...

Life.....the thing that happens to you while you are making plans.....

Re the cooling...it's all fans...no liquid [other than what's involved with the heatpipes on the various coolers...

One of the nice things about the GPU and the PSU choice in particular is when they're not feeling 'taxed' they simply shut down their fans totally.....ain't no cooler quieter than silent.

When they're sleeping there's only 5 in operation....one in and one out in the Mobo box, the CPU, and two littlies in the HD 'high-rise tower'.

A sea of fans is for people who blow-wave their hair....

WTF is Skylake?  And is it worth waiting for?

This

Hmmm, very interesting, and it'll likely be available by the time I'm ready to build,  but it'll also have 'new tech' pricing and I really don't see a need to outlay more cash than budgeted  for when the CPU mobo I plan to get will be more than adequate to my needs in the PCIE dep't 

So anyway, I've answered my own question "is it worth waiting for?".   For me/my needs, it's a no.

As it is I'm waiting for prices on the CPU, RAM and mobo to drop from 'newish tech' levels so the rig is more affordable. without having to compromise on the key components.

The weather gadgets decided to stop working yesterday.  Seems MS isn't interested in them anymore....

Got some others though....always nice to check how much better Melbourne's weather is to Michigan's... [like currently -9c vs 27c]

System seems stable....if one ignores the WEI not working and having to cold boot 4 times to light the engine....

 Just curious since I'm interested in a M2 card for a future build. One tip I read is to unplug all other storage units for it to be recognized in bios.  I don't believe this boot problem is a motherboard issue since the Z99 is built for this type of card.

 Or like you said earlier, just wait for Windows 10 to hopefully catch up to all of the new hardware coming on to the scene.

And you need to check Melbourne's weather regularly... given it it is inconsistent and often has 4 seasons in a day.

Still, it has to be better than what much of the US is copping right now.... COLD and even more COLD.

For mine, however, an even 24c all year round would suit me.... where does one order that?

I do believe it is a Windows issue and that MS will have to address it for Win 7 through to Win 10... time and PC tech stands still for no-one, not even MS.  As for unplugging other storage, well it may help, but I doubt it given the Z99 is M.2 compatible. The M.2 will likely shows up in thevBIOS regardless, meaning the boot issue is probably a Windows thing and not at all hardware related.

San Diego, CA I am led to believe. That does sound pretty damn nice right now at like 0 F right now in Wisconsin.

i suppose it depends on how often you get a new build. think my current one is like 8 years old .. albeit with various replacement bits (wasn't a high end build either.. not that i did the building)

As a rug-rat I grew up with Meccano .... so putting things together was/is second nature...along with designing - building- repairing my own bikes, and doing 'odd' things like replacing a head gasket while camping over the holidays.

I enjoy 'doing things' so whether it's a new PC build or a rehash of an old one....it's all fun to me.

Gotta admit though that no matter what...it's more enjoyable messing with new stuff than old...

Same here.... totally into the innards of things, especially PCs.

Yup, gotta agree with that one, though while I'm waiting to do my next new build, I've stripped down my AMD machine and I'm replacing some of its parts with better ones that I had left over from various other builds... stuff like highem rating RAM; HDDs and a sound card, etc.  It's a Claytons upgrade... the upgrade I have when I can't afford an upgrade, though it does 'temporarily' have that Samsung 256gb M.2. However, it could be that I end up poaching it for my new build, being that it will be my primary machine and 256gb is plenty big enough for an OS and programmes.

And yeah, I also grew up with Meccano... a fantastic 'toy' that forever remains a favourite among kids who like to do other than just play computer games.  My nephews all enjoyed it, and now I have grandkids and a whole new generation of kids playing with it.

i'd like to see a pic of your cable management once the build is complete.
Everytime i peek at WC and see this topic i want to start a new build myself.
Just seen the Lian Li DK-02X  i wish i had the money for it ...  

Here's the door from the right side....that gets you to the wiring...

The wiring...all hidden in here....

Note the non-alignment of the CPU back/socket with the tray cutout...indicating that a X99/LGA2011 board isn't quite a standard ATX layout.... hence my issues with the CPU cooler needing some fins clipped...

All the HD power connectors were daisy-chained already...

I'm absolutely happy for you Paul.  Out of all the blokes I know on WC, you have the highest regard for safety at speed.

 You've put together a fine machine. Don't forget those regular oil changes and avoid sudden stops. Oh, and wear your track gear, that thing is quick.