too many master skins
Monday, September 22, 2014 by PixelPunk | Discussion: WindowBlinds
There are simply too many master skins and too few other skins. Front skin page.... 2/3 are master?
And for some reason, the windowblind skinners are the majority of the master skinners on wincustomize. Just look at all the other stardock products that have a lot of skins that are.... free? Maybe Windowblinds should be free, and stardock could make their money from the subsidizing/distribution of the skins themselves. I dunno, but I am getting leary of continuing my subscription when I can't find anything useful. Even the quality of the master skins is often on par somewhat to what was free just a few years ago. We all know your mileage may vary on some skins due to design flaws, so having them mostly master is kind of scary. I have heard the argument that the artist should be paid for their work... but these prices are not right. I have heard the skins are like music, and one would pay for music. Okay, how about $.99 for a skin, but $4.95-$5.95? Perhaps more skins would be sold if there price was similar to a song on itunes. There is something to be said about volume sales. I would be more willing to purchase them at a song price rather than an album price.
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Reply #42 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:00 AM
Sorry, thought this was the "Become a master skinner" motivation section, my bad.
Good grief, I dare not share an opinion, yeah, right.
Here's mine. Stardock did most of the hard work for me with sks, which cost 9.99, hmm. Very cheap for all that work. 50.00 for the lot of apps, so cheap, all that code.
But, skinners have also invested years into the art field to become masters and that should be counted as well when deciding worth. Years of practice, and free skins all the while, so overall, the skins average out probably too less than a dime apiece, all said and done.
So, I guess I see a valid point to both sides, so no help here! But, I like skinning and money or not, I like having people use my work,cash might just make it a job, and I have one already, and need no other.So, I like the hobby aspect.If I were under the gun, trying to pay bills with the payout from skins, I would see a different side I am sure, so I respect that, a little cash for a lot of work.Most people make at least 9.00 bucks an hour at work, a skin takes hundreds of hours some times, or maybe less,lol, seems a fair price that way anyhow.
There, did I stay SWISS?DT1(chickensh-t} 
Reply #43 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:54 AM
Not sure what you wrote in Option 5 but it was either very offensive according to
or it included nothing important at all...
exactly..... I was teasing him because he accidentally omitted "5"... and WebGizmos picked it up and ran with it... called...humour..... 
sorry there weren't enough 
for you...
ID's right.... lighten up... relax...
vStyler wasn't singling anyone out....his comments are pointed at ALL who devalue...or wish to devalue a skinner's time/effort...and it's the OP's thread, afterall.
Exactly....
Reply #45 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:22 AM
The person who posted this has posted other Master Skin complaints in the past:
Too many Master Windowblinds skins
https://forums.wincustomize.com/384561/page/3/#2655443
Where are the Master Skins?
https://forums.wincustomize.com/397377/page/1/#2782727
Guess he/she has nothing better to do with their life. 
Reply #46 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:34 AM
Guess he/she has nothing better to do with their life.
PixelPunk.... the Punk... might be a hint... 
Reply #47 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:45 AM
Folks, we all must remember to read the signs when entering the forums, most important one being............ "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS"
Take a moment and visit the OP's profile and read their other threads. You will get a sense of what this person's mind set is. In other words, let it go folks.
Reply #51 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:39 PM
Yo Vstyler...
im selling my next wb for 20 bucks..........no bs... watch the shit hit the fan over that.............LOL
ps, loved the part about the fence painting ect.
everyone wants stuff for free, so true, guess that will never end.
its like you said, if they dont like it, hit the back button for real. nowdays i just roll my eyes and make another cup of tea. getting to old for this shit to bother me LOL plus the new gen are pretty much self proved retards......
Reply #53 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:40 PM
I'd happily pay more for a skin - $20, even $25, just give me a chance to trial it for 15 minutes to see if I like it. I realize that's not a very realistic request, but like it or not, not having the opportunity to run a theme through a few paces is a barrier to selling product - at least to this consumer.
Reply #54 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:54 PM
I'd happily pay more for a skin - $20, even $25, just give me a chance to trial it for 15 minutes to see if I like it. I realize that's not a very realistic request, but like it or not, not having the opportunity to run a theme through a few paces is a barrier to selling product - at least to this consumer.
Unfortunately there is no way to do a Trial Master Skin MeSleeper, and also unfortunate is that in a lot of cases people are dishonest and wouldn't pay for it anyway. I have seen/had skins put up for sale as a Master Skin, and the very same day show up on WAREZ sites, people giving the skins away to their friends, modifying the skin and putting it up for sale on another site as their own, you name it. Sad, but true, and there is nothing an author can do about it in the end. If one must rely on these sales as part of a way to make a living, they get totally screwed.
But if you find an authors work you like, you can be pretty sure you'll their new ones just from the screenshot provided. 
Reply #55 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:00 PM
Yo Vstyler...im selling my next wb for 20 bucks..........no bs... watch the shit hit the fan over that.............LOL
ps, loved the part about the fence painting ect.
everyone wants stuff for free, so true, guess that will never end.
its like you said, if they dont like it, hit the back button for real. nowdays i just roll my eyes and make another cup of tea. getting to old for this shit to bother me LOL plus the new gen are pretty much self proved retards......
Yo Kitty! We need more Master Skins from you! 
Reply #57 Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:16 PM
So the theme satrter pixel punk has posted similar thread in the past. nice to know. Thx for the information lightstar1.
And we need more skins. Its not that important if they are master or not, but they schould be creative, clean and contain new and also few old working ideas.
Reply #60 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:06 PM
To add my 2 cents worth it looks like a clique, where most of the "master skinners" are the same people. IMHO they're getting rewarded for amount not quality.
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Reply #41 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 AM
is it not better to have 99 cents from over 15k + illegal downloads than ... 120 premium 5 dollars ones. Its simple math. 5USD*120= 600 USD or 15000*0.99= 14850 USD now subtract your SD fee where do you have more cash left? Again just a thought.
Yes, it's simple math...but irrelevant and unrealistic.
It can also be proven with legitimate math that one = zero = infinity.
Again, irrelevant.
Many people claim the prospect of flats being built beside their home will devalue the property....but it's actually physically impossible to prove.
Sure, 15000 x 99c sounds good....but still 15000 x 4.99 sounds better.
Apart from that, there IS no point...
vStyler wasn't singling anyone out....his comments are pointed at ALL who devalue...or wish to devalue a skinner's time/effort...and it's the OP's thread, afterall.