What Version Of Windows To Use...

Thursday, September 18, 2014 by kona0197 | Discussion: Personal Computing

So I have a choice here. And I need some advice as I have found you all here to be the best when it comes to these things.

Basically I am having a hard time choosing what Windows system to use.

Let me start by saying I have a Pentium dual core CPU, 4 GB of RAM, and onboard video, and a 120 GB hard drive. Nothing fancy or powerful.

My options are:

* Windows Vista
* Windows 7
* Windows 8

Now here are the reasons for the choice I am trying to make:

* Windows Vista - The computer came with Vista, since I have owned it I have ran other operating systems. I have changed the CPU and motherboard. The biggest thing here is that I have a legal copy of Vista and a COA sticker on the computer. And top all of that with the fact that Vista runs quicker than snot on this setup. The downside is that Vista will not be supported much longer, a few years.

* Windows 7 - 7 runs so so on this setup, a bit slow sometimes. Problem is that I don't have a copy of 7 nor a COA for 7 in the house. So I really don't have any options with 7 other than to buy a key, and that is not an option right now. However, I like 7, when I have a machine that can run it.

* Windows 8 - I have a copy of 8 that a friend gave me as a gift. However, it runs so slow on this machine. And the whole Windows 8 look and feel is crazy weird, but it works to a point. 8 is supposed to use system resources better than 7, but that has not been my experience.

And keep in mind hard drive space. Vista has the smallest footprint. 7 and 8 take up almost 20+ GB when installed with all the updates installed.

So, what would you do? I'm currently running Vista. Maybe I should run Vista until I can afford a new machine or an upgrade?

Thanks guys!!

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PoSmedley
Reply #41 Monday, September 22, 2014 1:45 PM

blah blah

found my bookmarks.

Use EASEUS Partition Manager to create your partitions if you want to make partitions pre-install of Zorin. I have to thank Seth for that one. It's a great program.

Here is the Zorin site instructions. Very basic. http://zorin-os.com/installguide.html

Here are the ones I followed. http://zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6075

It even has a link to a video the guy made which I watched while doing the install.

It really is not as complicated as it seems. It's just scary when you start pressing that 'enter' button and letting the programs do things to your hard drive and all. Thats why you back up your important stuff.

I got it on the first try and lost nothing. I've had ZERO issues and I can't say that for ANY other linux OS I have tried and I have tried a few. (From ubuntu to one called Sleazstack Puppy or something that was supposed to be fool proof and small enough to run on your little brothers etch-a-sketch) 

I even found a program that I could put on a CD that would trick my DELL 2650 into booting from the USB to install Zorin Lite on that and had no issues (that was the one I had tried to install the Sleazstackpuppy thing on).

 

PoSmedley
Reply #42 Monday, September 22, 2014 1:55 PM

bluedxca93

Then add  slitaz

THAT'S the one I tried. I really liked it but a bitch of a time finding a a wireless usb or card that worked with it. I am stuck with a Belkin N150 Wireless USB adapter because of that. It's is a great OS for linux beginners but I could only use it if I used the ethernet on my laptop.

PoSmedley
Reply #43 Monday, September 22, 2014 2:17 PM

My Zorin desktop. Between Dropbox and other software now made with linux in mind and Google apps like Google Drive, Hangouts, etc., I can even link/sync with my Droid, I don't miss much. It comes withLibre Office but I use Google Docs, Sheets, etc.  It's got to be one of the user friendliest versions of linux available.

the_Monk
Reply #44 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:56 AM


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

 

kona0197
Reply #45 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:10 PM

I find it funny that some had to use a third party partition resize program when almost every Linux distro out there will do that for you and it's built in.

the_Monk
Reply #46 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:16 PM

kona0197

I find it funny that some had to use a third party partition resize program when almost every Linux distro out there will do that for you and it's built in.

Glad you're amusing yourself.  I'm sure they didn't 'have to' use the EASEUS program it's just that EASEUS makes such good software why not use it?  

 

 

 

Also, now that you've received quite a lot of info in this thread regarding your OP have you made any decision(s) regarding your situation?  Are you staying with Vista for now until you can upgrade?  Or since you do have a copy of Win 8 (and I have suggested how awesomely it works with hardware even older than yours) have you once again given that a shot?

Just FYI, that old 2005 Centrino Proc (M processor) notebook referenced in my thread (REPLY #26) has been running Win 8 now since Jan 2013, is still just as lean/fast as it was when I initially set it up and still gets used on a daily basis (email, browsing, etc. etc.)......in fact I'm using it to type up this response right now.

 

benmanns
Reply #47 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:20 PM

Kona did you install windows8 and check your drivers?
I encountered a similar problem where the system ran terribly at the start on a fresh installation of windows xp while the rig itself was fingerlicking hi end.
Problem was that motherboard drivers were missing and that no gfx driver was installed.
Even loading up the driver cd´s menu took ages - but once that was installed XP had a rocket up its ....
 

PoSmedley
Reply #48 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:46 PM

kona0197

I find it funny that some had to use a third party partition resize program when almost every Linux distro out there will do that for you and it's built in.

I wanted/chose to make the partitions 'before' I did the install, as well as condense my Windows Partition.

btw- MiniTool PArtition Wizard is another good one.

For someone like myself, who is a hell of a lot more familiar with Windows and even then have called out for help on here quite a few times, installing ANY version of Linux can be stressful and scary when you are doing a dual boot. I looked at a LOT of tutorials and forums and videos to find one that was at a level I could deal with and didn't make me feel like all I had to do was sneeze sideways and I would screw everything up. Almost all of the ones I came across (and most of them were on linux forums)recommended partitioning your drive before hand with one program or another.

I'm very happy I followed what I found and very happy with the final product/install.

 

***One small thing to be aware of...on MY laptop...Zorin did change my boot screen. Instead of the normal or expected Windows dual boot screen I am familiar with, I have one that is ALL Zorin based with Zorin as my first choice and Windows 7 as my last with two Zorin options in between the two. It's Zorin themed/colored, etc., so don't be alarmed or freak out when you boot your PC for the first time after installing it alongside Windows and see it. 

 

starkers
Reply #49 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:49 PM

the_Monk

Quoting kona0197,
reply 45

I find it funny that some had to use a third party partition resize program when almost every Linux distro out there will do that for you and it's built in.

Glad you're amusing yourself. I'm sure they didn't 'have to' use the EASEUS program it's just that EASEUS makes such good software why not use it?


Yeah, Easus Partition Manager is a top tool... like some others I know.

Dunno if I should mention any names, but Ashampoo makes some pretty good apps for PC management, as well as others for media creation, editing and management, etc.

kona0197
Reply #50 Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:22 AM

the_Monk

Also, now that you've received quite a lot of info in this thread regarding your OP have you made any decision(s) regarding your situation? Are you staying with Vista for now until you can upgrade? Or since you do have a copy of Win 8 (and I have suggested how awesomely it works with hardware even older than yours) have you once again given that a shot?

I choose to install Vista. This computer came with Vista, so I have a copy and a COA. I tried running Windows 8, and even after every update it still was really, really slow. All drivers were up to date. I thought updating to 8.1 would help, only to find out that 8.1 does not have a driver for my WiFi card. 8 did, but the driver I used in 8 does not work in 8.1. 8.1 was slow as well. I will run 7 eventually. For now, Vista is nice and fast. Few things I don't like about it, but it works.

 

bluedxca93
Reply #51 Monday, September 29, 2014 2:37 PM

kona0197

Few things I don't like about it, but it works.

As i did write  before. Hope you enjoy it.

Try to disable uneeded windows 7 services and to try to downgrade to 32 bit if possible. Perhaps you can leafe a minimal Vista installation on the disk if win 7 crashes or is really to slow.


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ...

I do use Linux as main system. 

Can use my own window blinds skins inside linux.Don`t ask me how.Won`t give answers. Stardock could sure do make a window blinds equivalent with an reasonable amount of effort. But who would need it ?? I think nobody . And linux gui changes every half year that much  like win8 and win8.1.

Do like developping themes with window blinds its faster. Also i need microsoft for OCR  and MSOFFICE. So i can understand jafo a bit.

I suggest to  everyone with faster PCS to run win 7 and xp inside virtualbox network connection disabled of course.

 

regards bluedxca93

kona0197
Reply #52 Monday, September 29, 2014 5:06 PM

bluedxca93

Try to disable uneeded windows 7 services and to try to downgrade to 32 bit if possible. Perhaps you can leafe a minimal Vista installation on the disk if win 7 crashes or is really to slow.

I'm using Vista, not 7.

Phoon
Reply #53 Monday, September 29, 2014 6:49 PM

RedneckDude

I thank Phoon for alerting me to the wonders of VMWare. And I'm sure he uses it much more fluently than I do.

Jim, when you are ready to step in to the big sheep panties, try out vSphere.

Imagine running 70+ servers on 3 physical boxes and having shared storage between them. Why.. Bessie would be singing your name in her sleep from your excitement!!!

 

I know you wouldn't have the equipment to perform such a grand scenario, but... using openfiler as a san mechanism with a couple of high end rigs well.. just fascinating to say the least. You could incorporate your main system to use as a vcenter server ( in a vm ). 

Get in touch with me for more details if you want some how-to's....

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