What Version Of Windows To Use...

Thursday, September 18, 2014 by kona0197 | Discussion: Personal Computing

So I have a choice here. And I need some advice as I have found you all here to be the best when it comes to these things.

Basically I am having a hard time choosing what Windows system to use.

Let me start by saying I have a Pentium dual core CPU, 4 GB of RAM, and onboard video, and a 120 GB hard drive. Nothing fancy or powerful.

My options are:

* Windows Vista
* Windows 7
* Windows 8

Now here are the reasons for the choice I am trying to make:

* Windows Vista - The computer came with Vista, since I have owned it I have ran other operating systems. I have changed the CPU and motherboard. The biggest thing here is that I have a legal copy of Vista and a COA sticker on the computer. And top all of that with the fact that Vista runs quicker than snot on this setup. The downside is that Vista will not be supported much longer, a few years.

* Windows 7 - 7 runs so so on this setup, a bit slow sometimes. Problem is that I don't have a copy of 7 nor a COA for 7 in the house. So I really don't have any options with 7 other than to buy a key, and that is not an option right now. However, I like 7, when I have a machine that can run it.

* Windows 8 - I have a copy of 8 that a friend gave me as a gift. However, it runs so slow on this machine. And the whole Windows 8 look and feel is crazy weird, but it works to a point. 8 is supposed to use system resources better than 7, but that has not been my experience.

And keep in mind hard drive space. Vista has the smallest footprint. 7 and 8 take up almost 20+ GB when installed with all the updates installed.

So, what would you do? I'm currently running Vista. Maybe I should run Vista until I can afford a new machine or an upgrade?

Thanks guys!!

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bluedxca93
Reply #21 Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:41 PM

Xp is off support. 7 64 bit  runs even slow on my 3GHZ dual core pc 3GB RAM 68 GB hdd partition .

8 runs faster on my noteboook than 7 pn my pc, even if my notebok is new but absolutely not better.

So i can say VISTA if not 8 . Even if the system vista itself  is really really  bad, but not so bad if you use applications that run well on it.

regards bluedxca93

PoSmedley
Reply #22 Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:05 PM

OR

try Zorin 9 (Linux). It has it's own theme changer and has a theme set up like windows 7 with a start menu, transparent taskbar etc. It's small and would run like lightning on your PC. Even if you go with any version of windows, it's worth installing as a dual boot just for fun. You can download it and use ImgBurn to put it on a disk and test it from the disk before installing.

It's been highly recommended for folks that are still using XP and can't afford new PC's or a new OS because you can set the theme to run like Windows7 or WindowsXP or even Ubuntu if you prefer.

I have it on my main laptop and installed the lite version of it on an old Dell 2650 that only has 256mb of RAM for the kid to play with and she loves it.

For anyone NOT familiar with linux distributions, I would highly recommend this one. I've tried a few and this one lives up to it's own hype and is super user friendly.

And it's free.

 

 

 

bluedxca93
Reply #23 Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:35 PM

And you can ask me a linux theme developper how to install win 7 xp like etc  on linux.

Zorin 9 is not bad . I do recommended you if you choice linux to use a system that has .deb Packages like zorin. I can only recommend you ubuntu and its derivates (like zorin don`t forget it ) or debian testing.

 

 

 

Just two quick linux mockups. You see its not that different form window blinds skinning.

Jafo
Reply #24 Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:18 PM

bluedxca93

7 64 bit runs even slow on my 3GHZ dual core pc 3GB RAM 68 GB hdd partition .

That will be because a 68 GB partition is typically too small for a Win 7 OS.....which will typically require more freeboard....

gevansmd
Reply #25 Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:53 PM

Zorin looked like a fun tool to try until I read this link which describes how to dual boot.  Can it really be this hard to do?  I didn't need to do anything special with Ubuntu.

http://zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2601

the_Monk
Reply #26 Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:43 PM

 

@kona,

I'm sure you've likely seen this thread of mine from over a year ago:

https://forums.stardock.com/439592/page/1/#3327263

 

You'll notice I installed Win 8 on a 2005 notebook that had shipped with XP, been formatted to Vista Business, then Windows 7 and now finally Win 8.   It never ran better/smoother than now.  Just my own personal experience.

 

Oh and I'm sure your processor is more powerful than the lowly/slowly CENTRINO 1.6 single-core proc in my notebook! 

starkers
Reply #27 Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:54 PM

the_Monk

You'll notice I installed Win 8 on a 2005 notebook that had shipped with XP, been formatted to Vista Business, then Windows 7 and now finally Win 8. It never ran better/smoother than now. Just my own personal experience.

Most people who upgrade to Win 8 discover this... and Win 9 will be even smoother/faster... not that it'll run on older hardware.

RedneckDude
Reply #28 Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:36 PM

Zorin is cool. I have it on a VM.

starkers
Reply #29 Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:20 AM

RedneckDude

Zorin is cool. I have it on a VM.

It's one of the Distros I will be running when I get my Linux box up and running.  I just need either a CPU or a mobo [whichever comes first] to complete it. 

I have an AMD x6 II00T that needs a mobo, or a LGA 775 socket mobo that need a CPU,  but having to move put it way down on my list of proiorities.  Moving cost me alot more that just paying a mate for his time and fuel and hiring a trailer... there were connection fees and other costs involved, and a new TV became the 1st priority/expense once I'd paid all my bills, etc.  However, I will likely see if I can get a mobo to match the 1100T.  It probably has greater power than something to suit a 775 socket, me thinks, and will likely be easier to get here in Oz. 

Unfortunately, when new tech comes out here, the older stuff often disappears off the shelves and can be nigh on impossible to find unless one can get to smaller, out of the way PC stores or the weekend markets.  I just learned there is a market local to me that's here once a month [due to the operators doing several other areas per month] and I just missed the last one [yesterday].  It is within walking distance, though, and I'm told there are people selling PC stuff, so I will be present at the next one in 4 weeks.

RedneckDude
Reply #30 Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:46 AM

No real need for a whole extra rig for Linux. A virtual machine works just fine. Especially if you have good hardware.

 

My main rig runs Windows 7 64 bit. And Windows 8.1 in a virtual machine. The VM Windows 8.1 can utilize all 6 of my monitors and run at the same time as 7. I just minimize 8 when I want 7. Maximize 8 to use it.

 

 

My secondary rig runs Windows 8.1 with 7 in a VM.

 

No more dual booting.

 

I thank Phoon for alerting me to the wonders of VMWare. And I'm sure he uses it much more fluently than I do.

 

But with VMWare, I see no need to dual boot anymore.  And, with VMWare, and multiple monitors, along with a good amount of ram, and a good CPU, I can (and do) run XP, Vista, 7, 8 and Linux all simultaneously. That is 5 OSes, 6 monitors. So I have a monitor left over. All on the same tower.

 

 

kona0197
Reply #31 Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 AM

Sorry, I can't use Linux for my main OS. I'm a fan of Linux, just can't use it. Why? I wrote about that.

http://kona0197.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/linux-the-reasons-why-it-will-never-work-for-me/

bluedxca93
Reply #32 Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:22 AM

Apart the point appearence i can understand it. Linux is themeable. And the theme files are as easy as the ones from window blinds. You just have to learn how to theme without having a nice gui frontend, with .png bmp/tga  input.

Then Try Vista ! Xp is to insecure.

starkers
Reply #33 Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:29 AM

RedneckDude

No real need for a whole extra rig for Linux. A virtual machine works just fine. Especially if you have good hardware.

Yeah, I know that, but I want to run a solely Linux machine with various Distros to experiment with.   True, VMware saves having to dual boot, but I understand that 'virtual OSes' cannot/do not access the full power of the CPU and RAM, and I want to see how well they can perform on the hardware I've allocated. 

I plan to dual or triple boot Distros of interest at a time to assess and compare which ones I like best, etc, then decide which ones I will keep running on that rig.  So yeah, it's an experimental exercise that gives me something to do, uses a machine that'd otherwise be just collecting dust, and at the same time keeps me off the street.

bluedxca93
Reply #34 Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:28 AM

Then add  slitaz to your testing list. really small, sometimes outdated, but fast and not umaintained. Good for seeing what linux is and learning without downloading much or the need to install it for testing purposes. VMS are slow on some pcs i do agree....

RedneckDude
Reply #35 Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:41 PM

starkers

CPU and RAM, and I want to see how well they can perform on the hardware I've allocated.

With VMware, you can easily assign any number of cores, and max out the ram.

With Windows 8.1, VM, I am able to have six core CPU with 8 GB ram (probably more, if I wanted.) and run a different dream on each of six monitors all at once and still be able to use my host OS.

But I suppose the host does use some of the resources, so I see your point. But all in all, who needs 6 cores and 8 GB ram for Linux?

starkers
Reply #36 Monday, September 22, 2014 7:26 AM

RedneckDude


Quoting starkers,

CPU and RAM, and I want to see how well they can perform on the hardware I've allocated.



With VMware, you can easily assign any number of cores, and max out the ram.

With Windows 8.1, VM, I am able to have six core CPU with 8 GB ram (probably more, if I wanted.) and run a different dream on each of six monitors all at once and still be able to use my host OS.

But I suppose the host does use some of the resources, so I see your point. But all in all, who needs 6 cores and 8 GB ram for Linux?

I think the idea for me is to play around with the various Linux flavours to see how they perform on the assigned hardware. It gives me an excuse to use a [almost] spare machine without going to great an expense OS-wise.  At a later date, when I've decided on which distros I prefer, like best, I may in fact run them in Win 8.1 using VMware.  By then Win 9 could be out, and I'll likely have a spare Win 8.1 to run on the Linux box as the host.  For the time being, though, it's more of a bit of fun to keep me off the streets... er, occupied. 

Having so much less to do with a smaller house and yard than before, I'm finding that I have alot more time on my hands and need something of interest to do/occupy my mind, and what better than messing with puters!!!

Jafo
Reply #37 Monday, September 22, 2014 9:14 AM

Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

starkers
Reply #38 Monday, September 22, 2014 11:00 AM


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

That's right, Windows has the greater software compatibility, but there are Linux distros which run Windows proggies, so the gap is gradually closing. Anyway, I will still keep Windows as my primary OS while I 'dabble' with Linux... and if one or two of the distros happen to suit my non-Windows needs then I shall see whether I run them in VMware within Win 8 or 9, or just keep them on the designated Linux rig when it's complete. 

Seems I can pick up a mobo to go with the AMD x6 1100T for about 90 bucks.  It wouldn't be top of the range stuff at that price, but it would be sufficient.  I just need to put a few pennies away for a few weeks and save for it.

benmanns
Reply #39 Monday, September 22, 2014 12:13 PM


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

lol 

PoSmedley
Reply #40 Monday, September 22, 2014 1:28 PM

gevansmd

Zorin looked like a fun tool to try until I read this link which describes how to dual boot.  Can it really be this hard to do?  I didn't need to do anything special with Ubuntu.

I found it easy and that's saying a lot. If I can do it, any one can.

I used EASEUS Partition Manager to re-size my Windows Partition.

I absolutely backed up everything and anything I did not want to lose onto an external hard-drive.

The only thing that could complicate it is if you are trying to install it on a secondary hard-drive and do a dual boot that way. Windows 7 , for whatever reason, will no longer see that second hard drive. THere is a program called EASYBCD that is supposed to help with that but I had no luck with it.

I chose to resize my Windows Partition. 

Here is a link that is for installing Zorin8 that I used. http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/02/zorin-os-8-more-like-windows-7-than.html

I cannot find the link to the page that explained how to resize my Windows Partition, but I recall it was very easy and the program does it for you taking out the guess work. It told you the maximum space you needed to for the Windows PArtition, than I went ahaead and made my Zorin partition leaving anough space for a storage partition. http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2004816/shrink-windows-partition-losing-data.html  A lot really depends on how much stuff you have on your PC to begin with.

 

I have 320GB HD. I kept 120GB for Windows 7, 37GB of which is still free. Then my partitions are as follows

11.7GB (My Windows recovery partition)

83.8 GB (Zorin 9) which is MORE than plenty. YOu only need 5GB for the OS, the rest is gravy. You WILL BE ABLE to mount your Windows partition as a drive and access everything on it from Zorin. (Music, videos, etc.)

44.9GB for whatever.

 

I will look and see if I can find the stuff I followed. I am usually a bookmark-aholoic, but for some reason either forgot to save it or can't remember where I saved it.

The scariest part for me was condensing the Windows PArtition and reading threads like the one you found. That one is almost 3 years old and the installation has become easier and less complicated since then. I'll get back in a day or two or sooner when I find the info. If you look at the that first link, it's easy. There are also quite a few videos on youtube as well.

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