This OD shit dosn't work really
Thursday, December 5, 2002 by swinbit | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
It is only eyecandy, but I can't work on the computer anymore...Menues dosn`t work, it steals so much perfomance.
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pjpowell
Reply #42 Friday, December 6, 2002 3:06 PM
Reply #42 Friday, December 6, 2002 3:06 PM
ExploreRPG: I don't think you understand what I refer to by the resources issue in 9x/ME.
I am referring to the limit in GDI resources. The following links explain it far better than I can:
http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/win-resources.html
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=93
An application that causes Windows to repaint more often (such as Windowblinds or WFX) than it normally would will cause leaky apps to leak faster and hence use up resources at a more rapid rate. The same is true on NT/2K/XP but the limit is not there so it does not matter in the same way. Once resources have leaked the only way I know to release them is to reboot.
Microsoft seems to agree: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q185832
I am referring to the limit in GDI resources. The following links explain it far better than I can:
http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/win-resources.html
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=93
An application that causes Windows to repaint more often (such as Windowblinds or WFX) than it normally would will cause leaky apps to leak faster and hence use up resources at a more rapid rate. The same is true on NT/2K/XP but the limit is not there so it does not matter in the same way. Once resources have leaked the only way I know to release them is to reboot.
Microsoft seems to agree: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q185832
Jafo
Reply #43 Friday, December 6, 2002 5:32 PM
Reply #43 Friday, December 6, 2002 5:32 PM
exploreRPG!...I'm 48 years old...is that 'adult' enough for a meaningful discussion on OSes and their use/failings?
Not sure why you assume your dealing with children...the average age of contributors on this board would be over 30.
Have you heard of the phrase 'teaching your grandmother to suck eggs'?
Did it ever occur to you that it is BECAUSE many of us know and understand the failings of the 9x / ME systems that we are now using 2K or XP?
If you wish to stay with ME well that's fine, but don't ever assume a superior knowledge of 'things-computer' when commenting on a board such as this one which is open to many people far more capable than either you or I....
Not sure why you assume your dealing with children...the average age of contributors on this board would be over 30.
Have you heard of the phrase 'teaching your grandmother to suck eggs'?
Did it ever occur to you that it is BECAUSE many of us know and understand the failings of the 9x / ME systems that we are now using 2K or XP?
If you wish to stay with ME well that's fine, but don't ever assume a superior knowledge of 'things-computer' when commenting on a board such as this one which is open to many people far more capable than either you or I....
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #44 Friday, December 6, 2002 5:47 PM
Reply #44 Friday, December 6, 2002 5:47 PM
as far as i know theres only like 5 or 6 kids on this board, and we wouldn't be here unless we have any idea what we are talking about, I run both linux and XP, i use XP for general needs, and my linux box is for game servers i run on occassions, its stable but not the same as XP, and ill have to say that XP gives a slight improvement in performance on my computer than 98 ever did, I was skeptical.
I may only be a "kiddie" but i know more than most about computers (though most people here know more than me)
I may only be a "kiddie" but i know more than most about computers (though most people here know more than me)
tinkergaloot
Reply #46 Friday, December 6, 2002 6:24 PM
Reply #46 Friday, December 6, 2002 6:24 PM
snarph- could be aafuss' dad, out to extract some revenge... 
UBoB
Reply #47 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:00 PM
Reply #47 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:00 PM
I think the "Kiddie" reference was more metaphorical. Being extremely paranoid and suffering from a persecution complex I'm sure he meant me.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #48 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:06 PM
Reply #48 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:06 PM
i saw i as a general statement , i odnt take to be called a kid too well
SuperheroCanadian 's eyes start glowing red
SuperheroCanadian 's eyes start glowing red
UBoB
Reply #49 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:09 PM
Reply #49 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:09 PM
Me neither. I'm almost positive I wont sleep tonight.
paxx
Reply #50 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:11 PM
Reply #50 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:11 PM
exploreRPG: I think most people don't really care what OS you use or like. Just like real wars never happen really because of religions or ideologies, this little "Show me your OS and I'll show you mine" argument may sound like it's about OS'es but it's really not. It's just a matter of tone and attitude. You got most people ticked of not because you said "I think Windows ME is a better OS" but because you sarted calling people name and using this snobbish paternal attitude.
So please, enjoy your OS and consider this topic closed, all right?
And everybody else. Please, lets be real here. It's not about which OS is better or not. It's about not liking exploreRPG's attitude. Understandable, but lets behave like the adults we are and leave this alone.
Thank you.
So please, enjoy your OS and consider this topic closed, all right?
And everybody else. Please, lets be real here. It's not about which OS is better or not. It's about not liking exploreRPG's attitude. Understandable, but lets behave like the adults we are and leave this alone.
Thank you.
bmetelsky
Reply #51 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:14 PM
Reply #51 Friday, December 6, 2002 7:14 PM
I only have 3 words to contribute to this discussion and they are intended only to the person acting as such - what a jerk. Why don't you go play with your ME based computer and figure out your own problem with the software if you're such a "know-it-all".
mooshoo
Reply #52 Friday, December 6, 2002 9:56 PM
Reply #52 Friday, December 6, 2002 9:56 PM
amen to bmetelsky.
you don't like xp? wow, good for you, but just because some of us like it doesn't mean we're wrong, nor does it mean we're not adults or mature.
so there! you big meanie!
you don't like xp? wow, good for you, but just because some of us like it doesn't mean we're wrong, nor does it mean we're not adults or mature.
so there! you big meanie!
WOM
Reply #53 Friday, December 6, 2002 10:08 PM
Reply #53 Friday, December 6, 2002 10:08 PM
I hate to say this but 'am using ME. I gave my XP to the wife as she needed it more than I did. If I wasn't so cheap I'd spend the money and get another XP for my machine. When I get pissed enough or see the need, I'll break down and buy another XP. The only draw back to
XP is that you cannot put it on 2 machines like all the prevoious OS's.
XP is that you cannot put it on 2 machines like all the prevoious OS's.
wombat_1
Reply #54 Friday, December 6, 2002 10:37 PM
Reply #54 Friday, December 6, 2002 10:37 PM
The 64 bit version of XP requires a 1Gb board, the current versions do not.
ANY o/s will run well with more grunt, Mandrake 8 and Red Hat 7 are good examples for a start.
Wombat can't see why a 'Superior Being' is bothering to run 'eye candy' on his developer's box .... nice black dos would be the go!
I ran 95, it was buggy but did the job for several years, made the mistake of upgrading
to ME, better than 95 but not good.
Very happy with XP Pro, removed Messenger and several other 'not required' items, anything I can't remove I just ignore.
I dislike 'product activation' but I'm not using a ripped version ......
"Sigz munz ergo I cooden spel dervelupper .... now I are wun"
Give it a rest Gomer. >
ANY o/s will run well with more grunt, Mandrake 8 and Red Hat 7 are good examples for a start.
Wombat can't see why a 'Superior Being' is bothering to run 'eye candy' on his developer's box .... nice black dos would be the go!
I ran 95, it was buggy but did the job for several years, made the mistake of upgrading
to ME, better than 95 but not good.Very happy with XP Pro, removed Messenger and several other 'not required' items, anything I can't remove I just ignore.
I dislike 'product activation' but I'm not using a ripped version ......
"Sigz munz ergo I cooden spel dervelupper .... now I are wun"
Give it a rest Gomer. >
snowzone5
Reply #55 Sunday, December 8, 2002 2:16 AM
Reply #55 Sunday, December 8, 2002 2:16 AM
i think it's a good sign when you see flaws posted in opensource software...they get fixed that way...
microsoft hasn't proven themselves the leader of the security pack lately...
either way those of use who need to work on windows will continue to do so...
microsoft hasn't proven themselves the leader of the security pack lately...
either way those of use who need to work on windows will continue to do so...
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Reply #41 Friday, December 6, 2002 3:05 PM