Snipers in DC
Tuesday, October 15, 2002 by ToeJo | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I live 45 minutes outside of DC. This sniper stuff really ticks me off. I've never seen anything like this. Anyone think it's al-Qaida? I don't know, but I hope they catch the SOB soon!
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joetheblow
Reply #102 Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:51 PM
Reply #102 Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:51 PM
Zac Hanson? Who is that?
And a serial killer is nothing new. I wouldn't call it a war. It is hard to catch someone who basically put all of the things nessicary to do their crime. Sometimes they get caught and other times they don't.
And a serial killer is nothing new. I wouldn't call it a war. It is hard to catch someone who basically put all of the things nessicary to do their crime. Sometimes they get caught and other times they don't.
Styl-X Design
Reply #103 Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:22 AM
Reply #103 Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:22 AM
if you kill 10 peoples your a serial killer, if you kill 10000 people your a conquer. 
Have been a week in france, didn´t hear the latest news, you guys have any idea how many people this monster (they say it are probably 2 man) have killed?
Have been a week in france, didn´t hear the latest news, you guys have any idea how many people this monster (they say it are probably 2 man) have killed?
goodmorphing
Reply #104 Sunday, October 20, 2002 4:16 AM
Reply #104 Sunday, October 20, 2002 4:16 AM
they think he shot another one tonight. 
I am not sure, maybe 12 shot, 9 fatal. The one tonight is critical...
I am not sure, maybe 12 shot, 9 fatal. The one tonight is critical...
Styl-X Design
Reply #105 Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:35 AM
Reply #105 Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:35 AM
ok, thnx, by the way, how can somebody get so wicked?
makes me sick
makes me sick
Jafo
Reply #106 Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:00 PM
Reply #106 Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:00 PM
Karma....sorry 'bout the emotive hyperbole...it was a case of coming to terms with the events in Bali, combined with my 'knowing' so many good people in the US that I love and respect, and fearing for their safety in the face of testosterone-surrogate gun ownership that is rife there.
All because of a debatable interpretation of a line of the Constitution.
I'm not silly....I DO know that the vast majority of gun owners are decent, moral, responsible people....but I also know that any, and ALL guns [if opperable] have the capacity to kill, which is their intent.
The Rated PG.....sorry to disappoint, but I'm neither 'ignorant, stupid, nor engaged in 'oral deformation [sic]' [the word is defamation
].
I certainly do not 'Lie', either, and do not need to be a 'special forces' to protect the world, choosing to do it by selflessness and compassion...
I 'hope' you you are a more 'special' 'special forces' than the one who stepped on the land mine in 'Nam, making a bit of a mess of a mate of mine who as a SAS op. was seconded to the US, instead of being with his own.....took him another 30+ years to die [schrapnel/scarring complications, combined with Agent Orange] but such is life.....sometimes 'special' just ain't....
All because of a debatable interpretation of a line of the Constitution.
I'm not silly....I DO know that the vast majority of gun owners are decent, moral, responsible people....but I also know that any, and ALL guns [if opperable] have the capacity to kill, which is their intent.
The Rated PG.....sorry to disappoint, but I'm neither 'ignorant, stupid, nor engaged in 'oral deformation [sic]' [the word is defamation
].I certainly do not 'Lie', either, and do not need to be a 'special forces' to protect the world, choosing to do it by selflessness and compassion...
I 'hope' you you are a more 'special' 'special forces' than the one who stepped on the land mine in 'Nam, making a bit of a mess of a mate of mine who as a SAS op. was seconded to the US, instead of being with his own.....took him another 30+ years to die [schrapnel/scarring complications, combined with Agent Orange] but such is life.....sometimes 'special' just ain't....
goodmorphing
Reply #107 Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:24 PM
Reply #107 Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:24 PM
Styl skinner: how can somebody get so wicked?
I used to have this image of the world as a kind of primitive place that we were evolving from. But lately it seems more like a devolution.... There are "empty" people; ones that aren't really human to start with. There are abused ones who turn into something worse than their own worset enemy. Lots of things happen.
I have traditionally seen myself as a pacifist. I grew up with guns and was even quite a good shot with a hunting rifle. But I pitied the deer too much. Now I am really torn, because I find myself understanding why we need guns. Had it been otherwise in the beginning, had there not been such a surplus of guns in the wrong hands it might be different. As it is now, the good and gentle people might be as if they are sheep for the slaughter without some civilian protection.
It is kind of painful when stuff like this happens and everything I thought I believed seems inadequate. This kind of soul searching is no fun... but this isn't the world it was a even a year ago. And try as I might I just haven't found any answers.
I used to have this image of the world as a kind of primitive place that we were evolving from. But lately it seems more like a devolution.... There are "empty" people; ones that aren't really human to start with. There are abused ones who turn into something worse than their own worset enemy. Lots of things happen.
I have traditionally seen myself as a pacifist. I grew up with guns and was even quite a good shot with a hunting rifle. But I pitied the deer too much. Now I am really torn, because I find myself understanding why we need guns. Had it been otherwise in the beginning, had there not been such a surplus of guns in the wrong hands it might be different. As it is now, the good and gentle people might be as if they are sheep for the slaughter without some civilian protection.
It is kind of painful when stuff like this happens and everything I thought I believed seems inadequate. This kind of soul searching is no fun... but this isn't the world it was a even a year ago. And try as I might I just haven't found any answers.
bakerstreet
Reply #108 Monday, October 21, 2002 12:08 AM
Reply #108 Monday, October 21, 2002 12:08 AM
Before Newton, people thought that the natural state of an object was to be at rest. It was not logical to think of stillness as unnatural. I am afraid that after 10,000 years of recorded history, we are going to have to assume that the natural state of man is conflict, and that what we think of as 'peace' is just a sporadic lull in the fighting. We can't seem to have sporting events without people purposefully doing harm to one another. There is just too much 'spontaneous' hate in everyday life to assume that it is an unnatural thing.
Breast implants are pretty unnatural, and yet they are wildly popular, so perhaps there's hope. I'm about as emotionally low as I can get and remain healthy, myself. I'm about ready to go buy myself a new copy of Everquest and fall back off the wagon permanently... It is so much simpler in Norrath.
Breast implants are pretty unnatural, and yet they are wildly popular, so perhaps there's hope. I'm about as emotionally low as I can get and remain healthy, myself. I'm about ready to go buy myself a new copy of Everquest and fall back off the wagon permanently... It is so much simpler in Norrath.
wombat_1
Reply #109 Monday, October 21, 2002 3:13 AM
Reply #109 Monday, October 21, 2002 3:13 AM
Bakerstreet .... why not treat yourself to one of those (actually ... I guess 'two' is more correct) wildly popular breast implants, should cheer you up no end. 
Styl-X Design
Reply #110 Monday, October 21, 2002 9:55 AM
Reply #110 Monday, October 21, 2002 9:55 AM
Makes a lot things clear to me goodmorphing, thnx 
KarmaGirl
Reply #112 Monday, October 21, 2002 11:26 AM
Reply #112 Monday, October 21, 2002 11:26 AM
Jafo-"sorry 'bout the emotive hyperbole..." No problem. I probably took it a lot worse than you meant it. You know I'll always love you, Jafo! (Even if we don't see eye to eye on some things like this).
Oh, and if anyone wonders, My Grandfather was is WWII, my Uncle was in the Korean war, and my Father (and a lot of his friends) and one of my husband's uncles were drafted in Vietnam. They all saw the mass destruction that the weapons can do, and they all owned and used guns after the war.
I was saddened to hear that another person was shot. I am also saddened to think that the shooting might be a "copy cat" shooting. There are too many deranged people in the world.
But, as I was driving home the other day, I saw a bow hunter loading a large deer on his truck (bow and arrow deer season) and thought to myself, "I wonder if there were no guns, if the Compound bow would be the weapon of choice?" If you want to kill, I guess there is always a means of doing it.
Oh, and if anyone wonders, My Grandfather was is WWII, my Uncle was in the Korean war, and my Father (and a lot of his friends) and one of my husband's uncles were drafted in Vietnam. They all saw the mass destruction that the weapons can do, and they all owned and used guns after the war.
I was saddened to hear that another person was shot. I am also saddened to think that the shooting might be a "copy cat" shooting. There are too many deranged people in the world.
But, as I was driving home the other day, I saw a bow hunter loading a large deer on his truck (bow and arrow deer season) and thought to myself, "I wonder if there were no guns, if the Compound bow would be the weapon of choice?" If you want to kill, I guess there is always a means of doing it.
Bangkokboy
Reply #113 Monday, October 21, 2002 11:31 AM
Reply #113 Monday, October 21, 2002 11:31 AM
Breast implants? black fishnet stockings? Either the W has just acquired a new hobby, or needs to acquire a new hobby. 
goodmorphing
Reply #114 Monday, October 21, 2002 2:51 PM
Reply #114 Monday, October 21, 2002 2:51 PM
They may have caught him! Two under arrest!
Peff
Reply #116 Monday, October 21, 2002 3:02 PM
Reply #116 Monday, October 21, 2002 3:02 PM
It doesn't look kike the two men had any part in the shootings (according to CNN) 
goodmorphing
Reply #117 Monday, October 21, 2002 3:09 PM
Reply #117 Monday, October 21, 2002 3:09 PM
The commentators on MSNBC are waffling back and forth, but the latest report is more encouraging on that. Now they say they are confident that "things are moving to a conclusion".
The forensics are in on the bullet from the last victim, and it is definitely from the same source.
The forensics are in on the bullet from the last victim, and it is definitely from the same source.
ToeJo
Reply #118 Monday, October 21, 2002 4:16 PM
Reply #118 Monday, October 21, 2002 4:16 PM
I hope they get it fiqured out soon. There is talk of closing the schools here. It all sounds real iffy. I talked with one of the local deputies here and he says that he doesn't think they have caught anyone important yet.
Styl-X Design
Reply #119 Monday, October 21, 2002 4:26 PM
Reply #119 Monday, October 21, 2002 4:26 PM
Lets hope they caught him... should make a good week to me
moshi
Reply #120 Monday, October 21, 2002 6:16 PM
Reply #120 Monday, October 21, 2002 6:16 PM
hm, i got mixed emotions on that gun thing. but if my country would be ruled by Dick Cheney and Richard Ashcroft, having a gun doesn´t sound like such a bad idea 
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Reply #101 Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:30 AM
Zac Hanson