"Race car" is a palindrome...
Thursday, September 26, 2002 by UBoB | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
....and other meaningless and/or little know facts. 
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paxx
Reply #22 Friday, September 27, 2002 10:54 AM
Reply #22 Friday, September 27, 2002 10:54 AM
Karma, the Merriam-Webster writes "racehorse" and "racetrack". One word, not two. But there is no such word as "racecar". Check for yourself: http://www.m-w.com/
Yes, you are right. There are a lot of noun-noun compounds in English. Race car just doesn't seem to be one of them.
Also, just note that the rest of the English speakers of the World refers to England's english as the norm. So, England's English is the same as Canada's English, etc. Of course, every country has his regionalism but there is no such thing as "Canadian English", it's just "English", as in "from England". We write "centre" and "colour".
Yes, you are right. There are a lot of noun-noun compounds in English. Race car just doesn't seem to be one of them.
Also, just note that the rest of the English speakers of the World refers to England's english as the norm. So, England's English is the same as Canada's English, etc. Of course, every country has his regionalism but there is no such thing as "Canadian English", it's just "English", as in "from England".
We write "centre" and "colour".
Jafo
Reply #23 Friday, September 27, 2002 10:59 AM
Reply #23 Friday, September 27, 2002 10:59 AM
'race car' is very much an Americanism....just like 'trunk' and 'hood' and 'fender'.
As for short 'sentences', often a response to a specific question bypasses traditional subject-predicate-action syntax....'see Spot run'...and therefore 'I' could very well be a legitimate 'complete utterance, or sentence...all 'related' intent/content remaining implied...
As for short 'sentences', often a response to a specific question bypasses traditional subject-predicate-action syntax....'see Spot run'...and therefore 'I' could very well be a legitimate 'complete utterance, or sentence...all 'related' intent/content remaining implied...
KarmaGirl
Reply #24 Friday, September 27, 2002 11:22 AM
Reply #24 Friday, September 27, 2002 11:22 AM
uuuhhh...did it not say "Most of them, like these, are written as two separate words,"? I didn't write this (or change the race car bit). It was taken from an online source: http://home.bluemarble.net/~langmin/cpd4.htm
If you do a search on compound nouns, you can find much information about them. I am quite sure that "race car" fits the bill.
Paxx, if Canadians spoke English like the English do, you would be saying things like: "I have seen some real nipples in my day, but this one really takes the biscuit."
Anyway, you missed the entire original bit that I was joking around, anyway. Did you not notice the "I doth protest too much"? I think I need to be more straight forward when presenting jovial conversation...
If you do a search on compound nouns, you can find much information about them. I am quite sure that "race car" fits the bill.
Paxx, if Canadians spoke English like the English do, you would be saying things like: "I have seen some real nipples in my day, but this one really takes the biscuit."
Anyway, you missed the entire original bit that I was joking around, anyway. Did you not notice the "I doth protest too much"? I think I need to be more straight forward when presenting jovial conversation...
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #25 Friday, September 27, 2002 12:02 PM
Reply #25 Friday, September 27, 2002 12:02 PM
KG: Maybe we should change the "English Language" into "American Language" since there are more people who speak "English" in the US than in England?
I don't know anyone in the US who speaks English...
I don't know anyone in the US who speaks English...
paxx
Reply #26 Friday, September 27, 2002 12:05 PM
Reply #26 Friday, September 27, 2002 12:05 PM
Oh Karma. I know you are kidding. I am also pulling your leg. Thus the bunch of smilies in my posts.
I am not even English (as in "English speaker"). I'm French (as in "French speaker"), from Québec.
But, as much as we like to speak our own little idioma, and although a lot of us hate to admit it, the language's norm is in France. Speak France's French and you're understood in any French speaking country in the world, speak Quebec French and people are bound to look at you and ask "Pardon?".
I am not even English (as in "English speaker"). I'm French (as in "French speaker"), from Québec.
But, as much as we like to speak our own little idioma, and although a lot of us hate to admit it, the language's norm is in France. Speak France's French and you're understood in any French speaking country in the world, speak Quebec French and people are bound to look at you and ask "Pardon?".
KarmaGirl
Reply #27 Friday, September 27, 2002 12:35 PM
Reply #27 Friday, September 27, 2002 12:35 PM
Speak Quebec French to me, and all I will say is "Je ne parle pas français" or something like that......but it will be pronounced incorrectly because I got a "C" in French class....
BoXXi
Reply #28 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:00 PM
Reply #28 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:00 PM
Hey! I'm English, and I have seen some real nipples in my day, oh yes.
BoXXi goes back to reading "Nipples Monthly", (only available in England, apparently)
BoXXi goes back to reading "Nipples Monthly", (only available in England, apparently)
BoXXi
Reply #29 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:04 PM
Reply #29 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:04 PM
Of course, you do realise I am referring to grease nipples, those found on engines etc.
BoXXi changes to reading "Huge Breasts Monthly", after tiring of looking at nipples in the other mag.
BoXXi changes to reading "Huge Breasts Monthly", after tiring of looking at nipples in the other mag.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #30 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:08 PM
Reply #30 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:08 PM
What's this sudden obsession with nipples, I mean, they are such common things. In fact, in the world today, there are twice as many nipples as people. Bet you didn't know that... 
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #31 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:11 PM
Reply #31 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:11 PM
Anyway, I thought a palindrome was some kind of horse...
BoXXi
Reply #32 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:13 PM
Reply #32 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:13 PM
Who said it was a sudden obsession? I've had it for as long as I can remember!
werewolf
Reply #35 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:43 PM
Reply #35 Friday, September 27, 2002 1:43 PM
no, some folks have 3. There's a name for it, but I don't remember what it is. The Chandler character on Friends called it a "Nubbin"
goodmorphing
Reply #36 Friday, September 27, 2002 2:51 PM
Reply #36 Friday, September 27, 2002 2:51 PM
Jafo..As for short 'sentences', often a response to a specific question bypasses traditional subject-predicate-action syntax....'see Spot run'...and therefore 'I' could very well be a legitimate 'complete utterance, or sentence...all 'related' intent/content remaining implied...
That is what I was thinking... though in the case of I, in the cases where people should properly use I, they usually say me. Who deserves this million dollars I am about ready to give away?
Me? Though what is implied is "do I? I seem to remember an old rule that bows to overwhelming nonconformity to some language rules... it is how language evolves after all. A lot of our common contractions went through that process...
That is what I was thinking... though in the case of I, in the cases where people should properly use I, they usually say me. Who deserves this million dollars I am about ready to give away?
Me? Though what is implied is "do I? I seem to remember an old rule that bows to overwhelming nonconformity to some language rules... it is how language evolves after all. A lot of our common contractions went through that process...
migellito
Reply #37 Friday, September 27, 2002 4:04 PM
Reply #37 Friday, September 27, 2002 4:04 PM
i don't really have any comments about the thread.. boxxi just set off my radar for the term 'huge breasts' and here i am. i guess i've always found them far more interesting than racing cars. or race cars either, for that matter. however, when i was a teenager, such magazines as car and driver led me to believe there was a definite association between the two.
UBoB
Reply #38 Friday, September 27, 2002 4:13 PM
Reply #38 Friday, September 27, 2002 4:13 PM
Let's break it right down to bare minimum, at least in the written language. To express surprise, we could just write an exclamation point. Everyone knows what it means. Hell, let's do away with letters altogether.
How did the person react to winning a million dollars, she asked. "!", she replied.
How did the person react to winning a million dollars, she asked. "!", she replied.
joetheblow
Reply #39 Friday, September 27, 2002 4:25 PM
Reply #39 Friday, September 27, 2002 4:25 PM
Yo!!!!!
I read this whole thread and I still do not understand how "Race Car" is a palindrome.
Race.
Car.
???
I read this whole thread and I still do not understand how "Race Car" is a palindrome.
Race.
Car.
???
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Reply #21 Friday, September 27, 2002 10:15 AM
Hmmmm...do "English" not use compounds?
"What is the difference between a car race and a race car? They are both made up of the same `car' and `race', but they clearly mean quite different things. Both of these are compounds, something English is exceedingly fond of. The greatest number of them are `noun+noun' compounds, simply two nouns thought of and acting in combination. Most of them, like these, are written as two separate words, a few have a hyphen (`coffin-nail') and some are written as one word (`basketball'). But they're all the same thing.
We all recognize instantly that a car race is some type of RACE, whereas a race car is some type of CAR. In other words, English speakers operate on the agreement that the right-hand member of any compound is going to be the key word, and that the left member will say something about it, normally by narrowing down and specifying the possibilities. Most compounds turn out to be easily expressible as an OF relation between the nouns, such as crew member `member OF the crew'. Just as common is FOR: business phone `phone FOR business'. But we also get a variety of others, like computer hacker `hacker ON the computer', cellar window `window IN the cellar', animal cracker `cracker LIKE an animal', or tear gas `gas PRODUCING tears'."
Oh, and I know that there are more people in the country that speak English than in the US, that is why I said, "there are more people who speak "English" in the US than in England" Note the "England" bit of that