Me 21 - Bugs...ZERO!!!

What a rush.

Thursday, February 7, 2013 by Uvah | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

 So...here I are....having my first cup of coffee while waiting for my lappy to fire up. No problem.
Recently however I've noticed that the laptop is getting sluggish, very sluggish. More than was usual.
I opened Photoshop and got back into Breeze. I had just finished an update on it last night. So I have
the layer lit up, go to filter\Blur\Gaussian blur and ......BLAM!!....Photoshop freezes and a pop up
happens.It tells me Photoshop Online help cannot open because you are not connected to the net. Fine.
This is not the first time this has happened. I kill it with Task Manager and I thought, done! Nope...
Just the beginning.

     I was connected to the net, in fact I was in the forums waiting for a page to load. I restore FF
and refresh and....How'd that happen!...A new tab opened up. Huh...since when. So I close the tab and
refresh the page again. The same thing happens! A new tab. Uh oh....WTF! Time to see what's up.

     I shut down everything including the LAN. Isolated now from the net I break out my toolkit. First
I open up Advanced System Care. The first salvo. I hit full scan...1 hour and some odd minutes. Now, day
before yesterday I ran ASC and it picked up 37 pieces of malware from my system. I got rid of them real
quick and didn't pay attention where they came from.Today I did. ASC picked up 13 pieces of malware.
OK....its on now!

     I watched and took note. When the scan finished I broke out the big guy. MalwareBytes! I ran a deep
scan and it nailed 7 nasties, two which came from somewhere else. Five of these bugs, Pupagent I think,
came right out of Adobe Photoshop! On both my C drive and D drive where I have Illustrator CS 2 installed.
I deleted them and reboot. I ran ASC a second time and it came back clear. MalwareBytes said the same
thing. Then the quirkiness starts.

     I go into my D drive and start preparing backups. I'm moving my apps Folder to Muse, Drive G on my
external drive. During the move the time remaining, after calculating is finished, is 16 hours. Now...
what takes 16 hours to move. I sat there...should smile, shrug my shoulders or what. Meanwhile it takes
less than a minute to move 2.16 gigs. All the time saying 16 hours. Okay fine, I know my laptop had
slowed down. A reformat will cure that. I had been thinking about it anyway. It is fifteen months old.

     Now I'm in ASC's Uninstaller and I'm looking to bash heads. First up...Adobe. I took out the damn
reader.the PDF that never seems to work right. Next I decided to clean house. Incidently...those other
two bugs...they came from Youget downloader. Number two on my hit list. I ripped that sucker out by
its short hairs. Two down.

    I have/had programs installed that I don't use, Corel because if I pull down more than one guide it
crashes! No use to me. Next came Bryce 7.1. I have uninstalled Bryce before and never had a problem. The
other one I had in mind to get rid of was an old one apptly named Oldbar. It was fun but gawky.I find
Brycve, highlight it...I click on uninstall and BLAM again! Double WTF!!!

    Now I'm pissed!!! Threatfire pops up. "This program is trying to copy itself on multiple parts of
your computer". You're kidding right. I kill the process and ASC is taking a long time to do its job.
Too long so I cancel out. I go on about getting rid of some other programs I don't need and come back
to ASC. Re-open the uninstaller and sic it on Bryce again only this time kill and quarantine the
process. It worked as expected. Process killed, mandatory reboot. Then on to Oldbar.

    I'm on my friends laptop right now while mine sits across from me waiting to see what I'm going to
do. Its isolated from the net after a thorough cleaning out using CCleaner to sweep up the debris.
The system image completed successfully and now I'm going to shut it down. Done. Now to go to
power + Zero. Time to reformat. Be back in a little bit.

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Uvah
Reply #21 Saturday, February 9, 2013 5:10 AM

Here's one....yesterday I visited only two sited, here and yahoo. In yahoo mail I delete everything in my spam folder automatically, the inbox I look over the list and if there's any I don't know or am not interested in they get deleted. Then I delete them a second time from trash. Yet I ran ASC and it picked up 6 more pieces of malware. Two sites only! I'm 99.9 % sure none came from WC. So now yahoo is suspect. Last night around 11 I logged off of WC. At 4:30 am I logged back in.  I'm not going anywhere else...yet. Process of elimination. This popped up while I was typing. Waiting for Photobucket to load. In the meantime I'm running another scan with ASC and already it picked up five more. Bear in mind I haven't gone anywhere yet. Trying to get to photobucket but the connection keeps resetting. Talk about frustration! I took a screenshot of the popup from Threatfire. This is bullshit! Three times after signing in to photobucket the connection reset and now won't load the page. Bet the same thing happens here when I submit my reply.

moshi
Reply #22 Saturday, February 9, 2013 5:44 AM

you are aware that you should format this computer including the mbr before you ever access the internet again? probably better if you format every computer you own.

moshi
Reply #23 Saturday, February 9, 2013 5:46 AM

it's not Yahoo, there's likely something running on your system that keeps dowloading all that malware.

Jafo
Reply #24 Saturday, February 9, 2013 6:50 AM

Here's one....yesterday I visited only two sited, here and yahoo. In yahoo mail I delete everything in my spam folder automatically, the inbox I look over the list and if there's any I don't know or am not interested in they get deleted. Then I delete them a second time from trash. Yet I ran ASC and it picked up 6 more pieces of malware. Two sites only! I'm 99.9 % sure none came from WC. So now yahoo is suspect. Last night around 11 I logged off of WC. At 4:30 am I logged back in. I'm not going anywhere else...yet. Process of elimination. This popped up while I was typing. Waiting for Photobucket to load. In the meantime I'm running another scan with ASC and already it picked up five more. Bear in mind I haven't gone anywhere yet. Trying to get to photobucket but the connection keeps resetting. Talk about frustration! I took a screenshot of the popup from Threatfire. This is bullshit! Three times after signing in to photobucket the connection reset and now won't load the page. Bet the same thing happens here when I submit my reply.

You are already infected...and ASC isn't good enough for you/it.

You could try an online scanner...they tend to help because they are 'outside' of your OS...

Or you can reformat, as moshi suggests...

 

benmanns
Reply #25 Saturday, February 9, 2013 7:33 AM

kona0197
Whatever. Scanning everyday is overkill. Seriously. I only scan once a month with Malwarebytes and I come up clean. Why would I need to do it everyday? Waste of time and resources. I watch were I go on the net and what I download. So I don't really worry about malware.

Sounds like you have no email...that you check each day to me. The potential risk from mail alone is so high that i cant trust in a monthly scan of MB but the risk for me is to high to have my data possibly infected by any kind of malware since i send my data to my workplace from this pc. 
Even though im carefull aswell i tend up having risky cookies each day... while their risk is potentialy low but you get the picture i wonder how many of those float around your disk if you only make a MB scan once a month. Note this is no offense about your behaviour on your pc its just a thought you might see into.

The www can be compared to a onenightstand you better use protection each and every time. Doesnt matter what you browse or where or what site even here you could get infected.


 

LightStar
Reply #26 Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:52 AM

Ross you are most likely going have to do what Moshi said, boot to the Windows DVD and reinstall by wiping out and recreating your partition and reformatting, then continue to reinstall your OS.

I would suggest that you NOT keep a backup of anything currently on the hard drive, as it may be infected and start the whole problem over again later.

I would also suggest notifying the owner the wireless network you are accessing, as there could be something they are not doing that is allowing the malware/trojans/viruses to get through on their equipment also... you never know.

Jafo
Reply #27 Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:54 AM

LightStar
I would also suggest notifying the owner the wireless network you are accessing, as there could be something they are not doing that is allowing the malware/trojans/viruses to get through on their equipment also... you never know.

Yes...like preventing people from accessing it...

RedneckDude
Reply #28 Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:40 AM

Roloccolor
Sounds like you have no email...that you check each day to me.
I have 8 emails. I scan ONLY when my machine is messed up and needs me to, which is almost never.

 

I installed an SSD in this rig several months ago and haven't run a scan yet, no need to, my PC is running fine.

If I download something I don't fully trust, I scan it when I download it, with several tools.

If you have a good system setup for virus/malware protection, and you practice good safety and use your noggin online, you'll not need scans so often.

 

Some people tend to overprotect, which can cause problems in itself.

 

Don't overkill on safety, don't over maintain the machine.

 

Just use it, and some common sense, and you'll be fine.

RedneckDude
Reply #29 Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:51 AM

Yes...like preventing people from accessing it...

 

ROFLMAO!!!!

 

 

If the connection owner has a good router, and probably does if the signal is good enough for Ross to tap in, then he has a nat firewall in the router. May or may not be setup correctly.

Probably uses Windows firewall too, and maybe even a third party. 

Then Ross is no doubt using a firewall and 5 malware/av apps...(lol...sorry, Ross..).

 

A firewall/anti virus is only as good as the person who sets it's rules (sets it up).

This is where common sense and experience comes in.

If you download and install something, thinking it's ok, but it isn't, you have, by installing it, allowed it certain accesses.

Some apps can't be trusted and look safe until they're in your system.

 

 

Then, there are some apps, like Spybot S and D, for instance, that mark tracking cookies and such as malware.

 

All the malware/anti virus apps require the user to know some stuff.

 

 

Wizard1956
Reply #30 Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:57 AM

RedneckDude
I scan ONLY when my machine is messed up
  On those rare occasions when you weren't the one that screwed it up in the first place.

Who needs malware when a Redneck can do the job just as well?

LightStar
Reply #31 Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:14 PM


Quoting LightStar, reply 26I would also suggest notifying the owner the wireless network you are accessing, as there could be something they are not doing that is allowing the malware/trojans/viruses to get through on their equipment also... you never know.

Yes...like preventing people from accessing it...

 

I believe Uvah said in the past that the owner allows him the access to the router.

kona0197
Reply #32 Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:21 PM

Roloccolor
Sounds like you have no email...that you check each day to me.

I check my email all the time. I have Gmail and Hotmail and they are both based online.

RedneckDude
Don't overkill on safety, don't over maintain the machine.



Just use it, and some common sense, and you'll be fine.

Exactly.

Uvah
Reply #33 Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:24 PM

I don't have access to this router, wish I did. Here's where I stand. Pressing the power button while holding zero should have restored it to factory specs. It didn't work after 3 tries so I changed the boot menu to boot into the rescue disk. That didn't work either and despite not changing it back prior to coming here, I rebooted, it still boots up normally. I'm all out of ideas.

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