DeskScapes 8 Beta Bug Reports

How to unload.....

Thursday, January 31, 2013 by RedneckDude | Discussion: Stardock Support General

Hey Neil, how do we unload DeskScapes 8 Beta?

 

I can't find a way to unload and the help link points to help for version 3.25.

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ZubaZ
Reply #1 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:14 PM

Unload?

Like applying a wallpaper?

Wizard1956
Reply #2 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:16 PM

What RnD said. I chose to not show wallpapers in the DS UI and the  DS Config wont show my previously applied background to revert back to it. I had to open WB Config to reapply the wallpaper.  Win7 Ultimate 64 bit.

 I set it to run a dream on monitor 1 only. It changed my wallpaper on monitor 2 to Desktop Earth  dream.

ZubaZ
Reply #3 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:23 PM

Wizard1956
What RnD said. I chose to not show wallpapers in the DS UI and the  DS Config wont show my previously applied background to revert back to it.

You chose not to show wallpapers and now you cannot see the wallpaper you had before?

 

RedneckDude
Reply #4 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:26 PM

(OK, that worked Zubaz. I was looking in the config for a way to unload, like in former versions.)

 

EDIT: Sorry, I mistook your first reply to be a facetious one...hehe.   Yes, I want to load a wallpaper = Unload DeskScapes.

 

It seems like there should be a way to disable DeskScapes from within the DeskScapes UI. Who would think to apply a wallpaper from outside the DS UI to disable DeskScapes?

 

Applying a wall from within DS doesn't unload DS.

Wizard1956
Reply #5 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:26 PM

Correct. I don't want to use it to apply walls, except for the previously applied background. Also see my comment about monitor 2. Only the selected dream has a blue checkmark in the corner.

 

RedneckDude
Reply #6 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:29 PM

Zubaz
You chose not to show wallpapers and now you cannot see the wallpaper you had before?

Here too. Even with wallpapers showing, the previously applied wall isn't an option. So what you end up with is having to go outside of DeskScapes to unload DeskScapes.

 

I had to apply a wall with DisplayFusion in order to unload DeskScapes.

Wizard1956
Reply #7 Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:54 PM

Why not a single desktop right click context menu option like DesktopX? Just an idea.

DeskScapes, with a mouse-over dropdown menu of:

Pause

Configure

Unload

Neil Banfield
Reply #8 Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:16 PM

I guess the question is why do you want to disable it (unload has never been an option)?

Wizard1956
Reply #9 Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:39 PM

Neil Banfield
I guess the question is why do you want to disable it (unload has never been an option)?
To revert back to the previously applied background.

If for no other reason:

CPU usage is unacceptable. This dream used less than 15% of total system CPU with DS3 running, it uses almost three times that with just the preview now.

With it running.....are you kidding me? I want to unload it.

Phenom 9850BEx4/GTS450/8GBs RAM@800 MHz.

 

 

RedneckDude
Reply #10 Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:41 PM

Neil Banfield
I guess the question is why do you want to disable it

Duh, why wouldn't we?  I like changing my wallapapers with DisplayFusion. I don't want DeskScapes to handle wallpapers.

 

 

Neil, in earlier versions you would have the option to load your default background (unload DeskScapes)

 

 Quoting Neil, reply 8.         "I guess the question is why do you want to disable it (unload has never been an option)? "           

 

 

 

Wizard1956
Reply #11 Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:49 PM

Wizard1956
I set it to run a dream on monitor 1 only. It changed my wallpaper on monitor 2 to Desktop Earth dream.
And what about this? It applies whatever the first dream in the UI is to the other monitor, in my case, Desktop Earth. It does not leave the static wallpaper applied.

RedneckDude
Reply #12 Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:51 PM

Same here, it loaded Aquarium, the first in my list, on the other monitors. 

 

BTW, I changed it again and I got a dream on monitor one, same selected dream on monitor two. Monitors 3 and 4 got an unchosen static wall. And I don't have wallpapers showing in DeskScapes.

Wizard1956
Reply #13 Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:56 PM

Are beta bug reports for improving the software, or fodder for dumb questions? I am trying to be helpful, please don't insult my intelligence.

Neil Banfield
Reply #14 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:04 PM

Wizard1956



Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 8
I guess the question is why do you want to disable it (unload has never been an option)?To revert back to the previously applied background.


If for no other reason:

CPU usage is unacceptable. This dream used less than 15% total system CPU with DS3 running, it uses almost three times that with just the preview now.







With it running.....are you kidding me? I want to unload it.

Phenom 9850BEx4/GTS450/8GBs RAM@800 MHz.

 

 

The CPU usage used by a dream has not changed with DS8.  The preview may use more because it runs things at a slightly higher resolution internally than before, but an applied dream should be the same as before.  When it comes to video dreams the cpu usage is very much controlled by two things, your video codecs and your video drivers.  Videos use cpu to decode, thats a fact of life.

Now if thats a static wallpaper using all that cpu then thats something that needs addressing.  If nothing else I would be interested to know what process is using the cpu.

To use that much cpu would be interesting especially as it would apparently be on multiple cores which doesn't fit with the standard cpu usage pattern.  I assume it isn't a case of DeskScapes UI obtaining your list of images and building previews is it?  Thats a cpu intensive task and if you have shown it your entire my pictures folder for example it can take some time.

The easy way to tell is see what process is using what.  DeskScapes dreams when applied should use cpu in the explorer process.  DeskScapesConfig is the UI process and DSHost is used for certain dream combinations when applied.

Neil Banfield
Reply #15 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:06 PM

RedneckDude



Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 8
I guess the question is why do you want to disable it


Duh, why wouldn't we?  I like changing my wallapapers with DisplayFusion. I don't want DeskScapes to handle wallpapers.

 

 

Neil, in earlier versions you would have the option to load your default background (unload DeskScapes)

 

 Quoting Neil, reply 8.         "I guess the question is why do you want to disable it (unload has never been an option)? "           

 

If you want to apply a wallpaper using DisplayFusion then why not simply apply a wallpaper from there if you fancy applying one of those?  It should instantly disable DeskScapes in the same way as if I have a picture of say my house on my desktop and I apply a new wallpaper it replaces (so disables in effect), the old one.

All the disable option ever did was apply the wallpaper that was set before you applied the last dream.

TechNoWeb
Reply #16 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:07 PM

I've been testing it with different dreams and it's not using enough cpu cycles to even register.

 

Neil Banfield
Reply #17 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:07 PM

Regarding multiple monitor dreams, as with DeskScapes 3 you have to have a DeskScapes applied dream on all the monitors, you cannot have DeskScapes handling one monitor but not the others.

Neil Banfield
Reply #18 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:10 PM

TechNoWeb
I've been testing it with different dreams and it's not using enough cpu cycles to even register.



Reduced 61%

Original 972 x 650 

This is what we would expect to see.  It will vary depending on dream type.  I would expect static walls = none, dynamic = varied depending on the dream, but typically low, hybrid = low and video = more depending on encoder type, bit rate and any hardware acceleration.

Wizard1956
Reply #19 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:15 PM

Neil Banfield
Regarding multiple monitor dreams, as with DeskScapes 3 you have to have a DeskScapes applied dream on all the monitors, you cannot have DeskScapes handling one monitor but not the others.
With DS3, the option to have a dream on one monitor and a wallpaper on the other did exist. It did NOT apply a dream to the secondary unless told to, least of all one that was not selected to be applied. I am going to reinstall DS3 for further analysis and comparison data.

RedneckDude
Reply #20 Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM

Neil Banfield
If you want to apply a wallpaper using DisplayFusion then why not simply apply a wallpaper from there if you fancy applying one of those? It should instantly disable DeskScapes in the same way as if I have a picture of say my house on my desktop and I apply a new wallpaper it replaces (so disables in effect), the old one.
All the disable option ever did was apply the wallpaper that was set before you applied the last dream.

 

Neil, do beta releases get given to use so we can "beta test" and report back?

 

That's all I'm doing here.

 

If you removed the option to revert to my previous background, why not just say that. Say it's not a bug and it was intended to leave no way to disable/unload DeskScapes?

Your answers here come off as if they aren't bugs and you intentionally chose not to give an unload option.

 

One should not need to load a wallpaper with a third party application in order to disable/unload DeskScapes.

 

Neil Banfield
All the disable option ever did was apply the wallpaper that was set before you applied the last dream.

 

And it disabled DeskScapes.

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