i decline of this site
Saturday, July 27, 2002 by Carlitus | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I decided to no make more uploads on this site, and i also deleted my previous uploaded skins. As i consented to Stardock of using my skins when i uploaded them, they have the correct permission to use them.
Wy i reached this situation?
-I'm not in accordance with some actuaions when some skins/wallpaper are uploaded: for example, just uploading some skins, are immediatelly poor rated. This only can be done by 'moderators'... there's no a person always poor rating new skins.
-I'm not in accordance with newest skinners support on this site. Some skinners has showed me some works, that aren't accepted on WIncustomize, teorically by poor quality. ANd not always the skins have poor quality.
-I'm not in accordance with really democratic criteria selecting Featured skins: not always the skin are the most featured as is showed on top op Home page of WIncustomize. I don't speak about my skins, i speak about ALL authors skins.
-I'm not according with the actuation of some administrators of this site (not only for my last 'problem' (i'm using quotes, do you konw, mr.?)
And last:
-I'm not according with the criteria of this site selcting skinned applications. On this site seems to be only promoted the Stardocks aplications. And also seems to be supported and positivelly commented by administrators the WIncustomize and Stardock collaborators. In this messageboard i readed (one year ago +/-): "this site are intended to supply the disapearance of SKINZ.ORG, but Stardock support this site when the Stardock apps. are preferenced". Well, it seems to be Stardock apps the 'Kings' of this site. There's o reason for this, due to the use of propaganda on this site (included for a author as me that i obtained 70000 downloads on a month), and Stardock can amortize the costs of this site.
Not all my words are negative:
-Thanks to WIncustomize to give me the oportunity of share my skins and works with people of all the planet.
-Thans to T-Man for the help on the Stardock IRC
-Thanks to Martin for support me when i beginned to make skins one year ago.
-Thanks to mr Mormegil to support me, one year ago, and one month ago when i returned.
-Thanks to mr Jafo to trying to help me on 'learning' english and in the case of the rips.
-Thanks to all the people that readed this post and are tried to understand me.
This is my personal opinion and facts, and i not represent any other skinner (or yes?), if someone are offended, he/she must understand that i'm also offended. This not represent my definitive retreat, so i will follow in Wincustomize surelly, but all of yours must understand that i'm now very ennoyed to post more skins on this site.
Be good
Wy i reached this situation?
-I'm not in accordance with some actuaions when some skins/wallpaper are uploaded: for example, just uploading some skins, are immediatelly poor rated. This only can be done by 'moderators'... there's no a person always poor rating new skins.
-I'm not in accordance with newest skinners support on this site. Some skinners has showed me some works, that aren't accepted on WIncustomize, teorically by poor quality. ANd not always the skins have poor quality.
-I'm not in accordance with really democratic criteria selecting Featured skins: not always the skin are the most featured as is showed on top op Home page of WIncustomize. I don't speak about my skins, i speak about ALL authors skins.
-I'm not according with the actuation of some administrators of this site (not only for my last 'problem' (i'm using quotes, do you konw, mr.?)
And last:
-I'm not according with the criteria of this site selcting skinned applications. On this site seems to be only promoted the Stardocks aplications. And also seems to be supported and positivelly commented by administrators the WIncustomize and Stardock collaborators. In this messageboard i readed (one year ago +/-): "this site are intended to supply the disapearance of SKINZ.ORG, but Stardock support this site when the Stardock apps. are preferenced". Well, it seems to be Stardock apps the 'Kings' of this site. There's o reason for this, due to the use of propaganda on this site (included for a author as me that i obtained 70000 downloads on a month), and Stardock can amortize the costs of this site.
Not all my words are negative:
-Thanks to WIncustomize to give me the oportunity of share my skins and works with people of all the planet.
-Thans to T-Man for the help on the Stardock IRC
-Thanks to Martin for support me when i beginned to make skins one year ago.
-Thanks to mr Mormegil to support me, one year ago, and one month ago when i returned.
-Thanks to mr Jafo to trying to help me on 'learning' english and in the case of the rips.
-Thanks to all the people that readed this post and are tried to understand me.
This is my personal opinion and facts, and i not represent any other skinner (or yes?), if someone are offended, he/she must understand that i'm also offended. This not represent my definitive retreat, so i will follow in Wincustomize surelly, but all of yours must understand that i'm now very ennoyed to post more skins on this site.
Be good
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Carlitus
Reply #42 Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:05 PM
Reply #42 Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:05 PM
Thanks all, sincerelly... 
I, surelly like most of the skinners, make my skins for my pleasure, and i always try to get no attention to rates (on this site or other sites), but, when you are congratuled by rates/other skinners/etc., you feel like to make more and better skins.
I don't cry requesting best rates (on my last uploads, i have one 4 in a wallp correctly, and on my last icon packs a have 10 rates, correctly), i only mean more respect... for me principally, and for other skinners. I said that i received some works of some person (2 wallpapers). One are very bad, i know, but the other are acceptable. The 2 works are used the Windows logo, and the author have no instant access. I know that recursive wallpapers is a bad designing task, but i apply this on all works around Wincustomize. Maybe a different rating system (1-10 are more easy to rise/fall than 0-100, for example)
I, surelly like most of the skinners, make my skins for my pleasure, and i always try to get no attention to rates (on this site or other sites), but, when you are congratuled by rates/other skinners/etc., you feel like to make more and better skins.
I don't cry requesting best rates (on my last uploads, i have one 4 in a wallp correctly, and on my last icon packs a have 10 rates, correctly), i only mean more respect... for me principally, and for other skinners. I said that i received some works of some person (2 wallpapers). One are very bad, i know, but the other are acceptable. The 2 works are used the Windows logo, and the author have no instant access. I know that recursive wallpapers is a bad designing task, but i apply this on all works around Wincustomize. Maybe a different rating system (1-10 are more easy to rise/fall than 0-100, for example)
craeonics
Reply #43 Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:28 PM
Reply #43 Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:28 PM
Key sentence: "I, [...], make my skins for my pleasure", 'nuff said. Your motivation seems right, so you'll get over this crisis.
adni18
Reply #45 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:26 AM
Reply #45 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:26 AM
No, 1-100 is the same thing!
The rattings are the problem, not the value
Think about it!
I am very glad to hear from Alexandrie, that it is going to be a change to System ratting to prevent unfair ratings!
The rattings are the problem, not the value
Think about it!
I am very glad to hear from Alexandrie, that it is going to be a change to System ratting to prevent unfair ratings!
craeonics
Reply #47 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:39 AM
Reply #47 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:39 AM
Adni means that switching from 1-10 to 1-100 won't solve a thing. A 5 will then be a 50. Nothing will change, except the scale.
paxx
Reply #48 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:09 AM
Reply #48 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:09 AM
I have exposed my idea of a 3 rate system instead of 10 or 100:
1- I don't like it
2- It's alright, I guess
3- I love it
Because, sincerely, I find that I have problems rating between those. When I look at a skin, it always fall in one of those 3 rates. Never will I look at a skin and say "Man, this skin is a 4!".
Anyway, my idea was rejected, so, oh well.
1- I don't like it
2- It's alright, I guess
3- I love it
Because, sincerely, I find that I have problems rating between those. When I look at a skin, it always fall in one of those 3 rates. Never will I look at a skin and say "Man, this skin is a 4!".
Anyway, my idea was rejected, so, oh well.
Kinrik
Reply #49 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:34 AM
Reply #49 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:34 AM
Why not change the theory behind the ratings and go with a yes/no setup, so people can get their preferences to streamline what they see. It is all about what your interests are, as a downloader, that determine what you like, right?
Does the following submission contain ___ (Y/N)
Text:
Gridlines:
3D Object(s):
Monocolor:
Greyscale Only:
(can't figure out the wording for people, animals, etc.):
Binary Numbering:
etc...
I dunno, just a thought...
Does the following submission contain ___ (Y/N)
Text:
Gridlines:
3D Object(s):
Monocolor:
Greyscale Only:
(can't figure out the wording for people, animals, etc.):
Binary Numbering:
etc...
I dunno, just a thought...
Kinrik
Reply #50 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:41 AM
Reply #50 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:41 AM
and then, in the tradition of the skinning your own website theory, you can go into your preferences and set your own ratings for those categories. then, based on your choice, you automate the rating system based off of your own preferences, and it will be different for each person. plus, this will help in that you will usually view the ones you rated highest, since the programming from the database can be set to read your preferences and display what you choose, and will likely invoke you placing decent comments since you will be viewing what you were looking for anyways, and whatever you see that you don't like, will stll be basically what you prefer, so you can provide CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, since you will want to actually see your chosen type of works get better...in theory at least.
did i make any sense?
ok Jafo, dig in
did i make any sense?
ok Jafo, dig in
Kinrik
Reply #51 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:46 AM
Reply #51 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:46 AM
ratings do not currently seem to work because no two people rate the same thing the same way...set up your own rating theme based off of predetermined choices, and then you only have your self to blame if you see something you think sucks.
...although this won't fix how to judge what gets past the moderators for wallpapers, I suppose.
Well hell, sorry, I tried...that's my quota for constructive thinking for the week.
...although this won't fix how to judge what gets past the moderators for wallpapers, I suppose.
Well hell, sorry, I tried...that's my quota for constructive thinking for the week.
feline
Reply #52 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:52 AM
Reply #52 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:52 AM
paxx - have exposed my idea of a 3 rate system instead of 10 or 100:
i quite like this idea, but i think i can see the imidiate objection. if the rating of a wallpaper/skin is to be used to filter down the displayed items (only show items about 6 by default) to *conserve bandwidth* then you want more control than 3 bands.
feline *sigh*
trying to see all sides of this is making my brain hurt
i quite like this idea, but i think i can see the imidiate objection. if the rating of a wallpaper/skin is to be used to filter down the displayed items (only show items about 6 by default) to *conserve bandwidth* then you want more control than 3 bands.
feline *sigh*
trying to see all sides of this is making my brain hurt
feline
Reply #53 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:08 PM
Reply #53 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:08 PM
only show items about 6 by default
BEFORE anyone releases a tactical nuke over this, please NOTE that this was an example number. i think the actualy number used is 3, and it is editable in your profile. 6 was just the first number i found on the keyboard while writing the above post.
BEFORE anyone releases a tactical nuke over this, please NOTE that this was an example number. i think the actualy number used is 3, and it is editable in your profile. 6 was just the first number i found on the keyboard while writing the above post.
Carlitus
Reply #54 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:48 PM
Reply #54 Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:48 PM
ooops, when i said 1 to 100, i don't reminded to say: 1 to 100 with no higher votes (a top of 10-15 points maybe?)
I accept if any skin/wallpaper are previously ratted by admins with high negative votes, when the skin/wall are recursive or uses a image created by another. The creativity must be supported.
I'm yet feeling ridiculous to upload here a wallpaper with WIndows logo and in clear tipography writed WindowsXP
. And my initially intention is to make a sarcastic wallpaper of the infinite nunber Windows based wallpapers. I also used the name of Mac users to define Windows (windoze)
I accept if any skin/wallpaper are previously ratted by admins with high negative votes, when the skin/wall are recursive or uses a image created by another. The creativity must be supported.
I'm yet feeling ridiculous to upload here a wallpaper with WIndows logo and in clear tipography writed WindowsXP
. And my initially intention is to make a sarcastic wallpaper of the infinite nunber Windows based wallpapers. I also used the name of Mac users to define Windows (windoze)
feline
Reply #55 Thursday, August 1, 2002 5:53 AM
Reply #55 Thursday, August 1, 2002 5:53 AM
quote of the day:
zen - the art of being at one with the two'ness
zen - the art of being at one with the two'ness
feline
Reply #56 Thursday, August 1, 2002 5:56 AM
Reply #56 Thursday, August 1, 2002 5:56 AM
Carlitus - And my initially intention is to make a sarcastic wallpaper of the infinite nunber Windows based wallpapers.
be careful, this sort of things has been done before, and some of those got insane numbers of downloads.
be careful, this sort of things has been done before, and some of those got insane numbers of downloads.
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Reply #41 Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:51 PM