Installed Windows 8.......

Friday, August 10, 2012 by BoXXi | Discussion: Personal Computing

A few days ago I installed the Windows 8 Release Preview on a brand new SSD. I'm seriously unimpressed...... I don't use ANYTHING that is on that Metro desktop, except Internet Explorer, so it all just seems a waste of time to me.

Everything is difficult to get to, and doesn't make sense. I don't claim to be the most tech savvy person, but i'm not an idiot, even so I had to google how to shut the damn computer down!! So, I can't see me using this at all, and I am seriously toying with the idea of buying a Mac. Since I use an iphone and don't like Android phones maybe that is the sensible thing to do, as it seems Microsoft are trying to get PC users to consolidate their computers, tablets and phones, which I'm not going to do as I love my iphone.

So, maybe it's a case of "choose your side" now, and go with what you are comfortable with. I'll never be comfortable with Windows 8 or Android phones so maybe the Mac route is going to be best for me.

My new SSD is currently empty, awaiting a clean install of Windows 7, which I will run until I decide whether to switch platforms..........

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RedneckDude
Reply #21 Friday, August 10, 2012 4:11 PM

Island Dog
You can't call it a failure since it isn't even available yet.  

Windows 8 is a transition OS that's going to start merging the desktop, mobile, and tablets together.  Mountain Lion on OS X is doing it, and whether you like it or not, that's the future of operating systems.  You can operate Windows 8 in desktop mode and be just fine, and of course there's going to be customization of it.

 

Spencer.....always the voice of reason......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..........this time, you have no reason.

 

    

TwoWolves
Reply #22 Friday, August 10, 2012 5:42 PM

Island Dog
You can't call it a failure since it isn't even available yet.  
Windows 8 is a transition OS that's going to start merging the desktop, mobile, and tablets together.  Mountain Lion on OS X is doing it, and whether you like it or not, that's the future of operating systems.  You can operate Windows 8 in desktop mode and be just fine, and of course there's going to be customization of it.
 

 

Agreed.

 

It is however a shame that they didn't try and preserve some more of the features in 7 that have been a big success; I see this process a lot with the corporate clients I work with. Baby + Bath-water, they always have to go.

 

1) Aero - I love it and so do lots of people, should let you turn it on in desktop mode. Cruel people.

2) Gadgets - Clock, Cal, Weather and CoreTemp. I am so attached to these, did they really have to die?

3) Start-menu - finally got it just right then dumped it. Say no more.

 

I will add that there are a lot of very good things under the covers which may not be so obvious. New Driver models. Hyper-V. Disc virtualisation. Fast boot. Storage Spaces (bit like SAN).

 

You win some, you lose some. 

 

starkers
Reply #23 Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:42 AM

Island Dog
Windows 8 is a transition OS that's going to start merging the desktop, mobile, and tablets together.

That for me is a complete waste of time as I do not want or need to merge/sync with anything to or from my desktop, nor do I want to be made to jump through hoops and beg "pretty please" to access a traditional working desktop with the regular functions. 

Now MS could have made the "we're not allowed to call it Metro anymore" UI optional for users such as myself - like NOT having us boot into it by default, and making it off-screen unless required - but did MS think of me and the millions of users worldwide who'll never ever want or need to sync with a confounded a smart phone, pad or laptop halfway across town?  No it didn't... and for mine, it is damned arrogant of MS to foist this Metro crap upon those who neither need or want it in their daily lives.

Worse still, MS' arrogance extends to impeding those who just want a regular PC desktop without the confounding, unnecessarily complicating UI that is Metro.. or WhateverTF they call it these days.  Stardock and others came up with ways to assist users achieve this with 3rd party apps, but MS, with its bully boy tactics, has more or less told users "fuck you, you'll use Windows 8 as we prescribe" and implemented blocking measures to prevent even a measly start button.  Now if that's not arrogance in the 1st degree then I'll eat Jafo's socks [he knows what I mean].

If MS had allowed me to use Win 8 as I do Win 7, with a regular start button and start menu, and booting directly to the desktop, they wouldn't have needed to tempt me with a $39.95 price tag.... I would likely have paid the full asking price for it simply to take advantage of the speed increases it delivers with my new FX8170 CPU.  Now it's a wait and see game, and if I cannot use Win 8 as I do now [ the Release Preview], then they can shove it where the sun don't shine... SIDEWAYS.

Northern49
Reply #24 Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:50 PM

I like Windows 8 (with Start8, ex7forw8, or other alternative running in the background) and the proper configurations made. It does improve on SOME features, like copy/paste, which I do a lot of. And it is a faster and generally prettier experience.

 

HATE THE START SCREEN THOUGH. I need to have 10 programs running to make sure that I never have to see it. Completely all over the place and illogical tile system. A chore to organize.

 

I do like the Netflix app, which I run in the background, and the music app is nice for having parties with a TV running in the background, and I like getting toaster popups for facebook chat. With the proper fixes, it could be an acceptable HTPC UI or, even better an actual desktop OS. It has decent multimonitor support, and I'm assuming Xbox 360 controller support isn't far off.

 

The problem with the Start Screen though is that it doesnt improve on the start menu, and even these Metro apps, generally, are worse and harder to use than their desktop counterpart, so who would ever use them? Desktops are about multitasking and uninterruptable, limitless consumption of anything you can find with a google search. Windows can keep the theme of Windows 8, and maybe even the tiles, but Microsoft needs to realize that Desktops and Laptops are NOT tablets. Buttons do NOT need to be 128x128 for me to click on them, and every app on my computer could be viewed in a SINGLE screen without any scrolling necessary.

 

I recommend Start8 with a few important configurations made, mainly, use the Windows 7 start menu, and enable "Windows Button opens last Metro UI app". Opens up Metro a lot on the desktop, allowing you to quickly jump in and out of a metro app without having to go back and forth through the Start Screen. I find it especially useful for Netflix (or Hulu, or anything of that nature)

the_Monk
Reply #25 Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:52 PM

Northern49


HATE THE START SCREEN THOUGH. I need to have 10 programs running to make sure that I never have to see it. Completely all over the place and illogical tile system. A chore to organize.
 

The problem with the Start Screen though is that it doesnt improve on the start menu, and even these Metro apps, generally, are worse and harder to use than their desktop counterpart, so who would ever use them? Desktops are about multitasking and uninterruptable, limitless consumption of anything you can find with a google search. Windows can keep the theme of Windows 8, and maybe even the tiles, but Microsoft needs to realize that Desktops and Laptops are NOT tablets. Buttons do NOT need to be 128x128 for me to click on them, and every app on my computer could be viewed in a SINGLE screen without any scrolling necessary.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012885/20-must-know-windows-8-tips-and-tricks.html

 

You'll notice right on the first page of that article that one can quite easily "zoom out" in order to see all available 'apps' on the screen at once and 'grouping of apps' is actually quite easy and logical (I thought).  The list of hotkeys should also prove useful.

 

There are some other websites with even more indepth and advanced tips 'n tricks but I thought this one quickly touched on two of your noted issues with Win8.

 

Hope that helps.....

TechNoWeb
Reply #26 Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:41 PM

I love the start screen

SpardaSon21
Reply #27 Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:33 PM

Oh God, those colors are hideous.  Any way to change them from "Eye-Melting Purple"?

TechNoWeb
Reply #28 Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:21 PM

you can change the color for your taste. that was a Christmas shot I've have changed it since.

Wizard1956
Reply #29 Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:52 PM

SpardaSon21
Oh God, those colors are hideous.  Any way to change them from "Eye-Melting Purple"?

Never mind the colors, they're square, flat and as exciting as oatmeal to look at.

RedneckDude
Reply #30 Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:54 PM

Oatmeal ain't so bad to look at....if it's round and a cookie.

rustysam
Reply #31 Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:03 PM

Windows8 sucks all around.  I have installed it twice and uninstalled twice.

the_Monk
Reply #32 Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:51 PM

rustysam
Windows8 sucks all around.  I have installed it twice and uninstalled twice.

 

Can I ask how long you attempted to use it for?

 

 

For instance, I have installed it as the "daily drivers" for each of my family members.  Of course there was much protest in the first few weeks, that has since not only quieted down but has actually turned into praise for the re-imagined OS and that should say something. 

Uvah
Reply #33 Friday, January 11, 2013 7:16 AM

It does. Win 8 will take some getting used to because its such a radical departure from the norm. I'm not all that keen on it and I have yet to use it. Not for lack of trying though. It was as if my laptop was saying "Get that s**t off me." So I did. I played a little bit with Ubuntu instead. That one is more fun!

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