Msgboard Chatroom Marathon
Sunday, January 27, 2002 by Elfkura | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Honestly, I would go to IRC for this kind of stuff, but if any of you have been there recently, everyone seems to be...inactive. Sooooooooo, out of boredom, I'm turning a thread among this msgboard into a chat room, anyone care to join? =P.
It's Sunday night, and I'm bored out of my mind. There's much to do, but I'm too lazy to get around to do it. My boyfriend is busying trying to get Visual Studios to work so I can't talk to him on the phone....and we can't seem to talk over the phone anyways...it'll just be silence mostly.
New Semester started........so anyone alive out there to join Elffie in this chat marathon? =P
Let's try not to let this post hang for over 2 hours, hm? =P
It's Sunday night, and I'm bored out of my mind. There's much to do, but I'm too lazy to get around to do it. My boyfriend is busying trying to get Visual Studios to work so I can't talk to him on the phone....and we can't seem to talk over the phone anyways...it'll just be silence mostly.
New Semester started........so anyone alive out there to join Elffie in this chat marathon? =P
Let's try not to let this post hang for over 2 hours, hm? =P
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feline
Reply #442 Thursday, March 7, 2002 11:49 AM
Reply #442 Thursday, March 7, 2002 11:49 AM
feline advices groc'ing the thread
it all makes sence then, with the possible exception of which colour grometric shape Elf becomes on alternate tuesdays
it all makes sence then, with the possible exception of which colour grometric shape Elf becomes on alternate tuesdays
feline
Reply #443 Thursday, March 7, 2002 12:21 PM
Reply #443 Thursday, March 7, 2002 12:21 PM
as for "inteligence", i think we are using different meanings for the word.
if you take IQ tests repeatedly then your IQ score (well, your test result at any rate) goes up.
this is why i ask what definition you are using. a lot of simple IQ tests i have seen are actually testing knowledge of english and maths. so i do quite well in the maths half, since i was taught most of the tricks at primary school in maths lessons. hence i have very little faith in these sort of tests
the other famous measure of inteligence is exams / qualifications. most of the exams i have been exposed to over the years are mainly testing your ability to recall piles of facts, and very little else. not really what i would call inteligence personally
as for rules of grammer, i would say i have a good practical grasp of "grammer", i am just not sure of the surounding punctuation and spelling
if word isnt a proper spell checker (sounds about right) then what is it? or more usefully, what is a proper spell checking program?
as for my spelling, it has been suggested to me that i am dislexic, although i am not sure.
but it does raise the question, for people who really are, what impact does this have on the question of perceived or real inteligence?
i saw an interesting program a while ago about modern building design. the architectural firm in it said they would only ever higher dislexic architects, since they produced far better 3D designs. they couldnt be trusted to produce written work what was spelled correctly, but that was considered a small price to pay.
just goes to show. perhaps inteligence, like beuty (<- one of those words i just never seem to spell, since its spelling looks wrong), is in the eye of the beholder
if you take IQ tests repeatedly then your IQ score (well, your test result at any rate) goes up.
this is why i ask what definition you are using. a lot of simple IQ tests i have seen are actually testing knowledge of english and maths. so i do quite well in the maths half, since i was taught most of the tricks at primary school in maths lessons. hence i have very little faith in these sort of tests
the other famous measure of inteligence is exams / qualifications. most of the exams i have been exposed to over the years are mainly testing your ability to recall piles of facts, and very little else. not really what i would call inteligence personally
as for rules of grammer, i would say i have a good practical grasp of "grammer", i am just not sure of the surounding punctuation and spelling
if word isnt a proper spell checker (sounds about right) then what is it? or more usefully, what is a proper spell checking program?
as for my spelling, it has been suggested to me that i am dislexic, although i am not sure.
but it does raise the question, for people who really are, what impact does this have on the question of perceived or real inteligence?
i saw an interesting program a while ago about modern building design. the architectural firm in it said they would only ever higher dislexic architects, since they produced far better 3D designs. they couldnt be trusted to produce written work what was spelled correctly, but that was considered a small price to pay.
just goes to show. perhaps inteligence, like beuty (<- one of those words i just never seem to spell, since its spelling looks wrong), is in the eye of the beholder
JavaBrain
Reply #444 Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:29 PM
Reply #444 Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:29 PM
I took my eye off this thread for a couple days and it turns into a discussion on grammer, English and intelligence.
What happened to the Coffee???????
What happened to the Chocolate?????????
I'm eating chocolate Hostess HoHo's and drinking coffee...which is more fun than talking about grammer
Damn mint dragons keep dive bombing my head, though...
What happened to the Coffee???????
What happened to the Chocolate?????????
I'm eating chocolate Hostess HoHo's and drinking coffee...which is more fun than talking about grammer
Damn mint dragons keep dive bombing my head, though...
Ruthven
Reply #445 Thursday, March 7, 2002 2:35 PM
Reply #445 Thursday, March 7, 2002 2:35 PM
feline... Intelligence is intelligence, as far as I'm concerned. It's whether or not it can be quantified that's debatable. If someone takes the SAME IQ test repeatedly, scores would logically go up ... but on properly constructed IQ tests, scores would ideally be consistent. I think you're talking about the difference between intelligence and perceived intelligence.
As for your grasp on grammar, I'd have to argue that it's more tenuous than you're claiming. You have a more than adequate grasp on syntax, but grammar comprises not only syntax, but spelling and punctuation as well. To your advantage, the mixture makes you appear smart but less obnoxious than I do.
I agree that intelligence is in the eye of the beholder -- average people look smart to stupid people. This whole thing started because I figured less-intelligent people might regard your "felinisms" as lack of intelligence rather than just not caring.
Regardless of any of this, Java's right -- we're starting to make this thread boring! And I'm getting REALLY tired of sounding pompous, overeducated, and condescending.
All this because I thought the picture of a "tummy run" on cats was amusing!
As for your grasp on grammar, I'd have to argue that it's more tenuous than you're claiming. You have a more than adequate grasp on syntax, but grammar comprises not only syntax, but spelling and punctuation as well. To your advantage, the mixture makes you appear smart but less obnoxious than I do.
I agree that intelligence is in the eye of the beholder -- average people look smart to stupid people. This whole thing started because I figured less-intelligent people might regard your "felinisms" as lack of intelligence rather than just not caring.
Regardless of any of this, Java's right -- we're starting to make this thread boring!
And I'm getting REALLY tired of sounding pompous, overeducated, and condescending.All this because I thought the picture of a "tummy run" on cats was amusing!
Ruthven
Reply #446 Thursday, March 7, 2002 2:37 PM
Reply #446 Thursday, March 7, 2002 2:37 PM
Suddenly, I have a craving for a HoHo.
And strangely, a flashback to senior lounge in high school ... every morning I'd have a carton of iced tea and a 5-pack of mini chocolate donuts. I wonder why I don't way three times as much as I do now....
And strangely, a flashback to senior lounge in high school ... every morning I'd have a carton of iced tea and a 5-pack of mini chocolate donuts. I wonder why I don't way three times as much as I do now....
craeonics
Reply #447 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:32 AM
Reply #447 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:32 AM
craeonics adds: intelligence = ability to learn + ability to apply the newfound knowledge
So the better you are at both, the more intelligent you are. That means that if you can learn well and know a dicitionary inside out, but can't apply that knowledge, you're not intelligent. But on the other hand if you only know a limited set of words but can express just about anything you want with it, you are.
Trouble with IQ tests is that they are context specific. They use cultural elements which means poele form said culture will score higher than those that are not.
craeonics thinks coffee discussions are boring
So the better you are at both, the more intelligent you are. That means that if you can learn well and know a dicitionary inside out, but can't apply that knowledge, you're not intelligent. But on the other hand if you only know a limited set of words but can express just about anything you want with it, you are.
Trouble with IQ tests is that they are context specific. They use cultural elements which means poele form said culture will score higher than those that are not.
craeonics thinks coffee discussions are boring
craeonics
Reply #448 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:34 AM
Reply #448 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:34 AM
Interesting to see how my fingers type at different speeds, so while I may be wanting to type "people" but it will come out as "poele", because one finger is faster than the other.
Now there's a strong argument in favour of one-finger typing, no wonder Jafo "hardly ever" makes typos.
Now there's a strong argument in favour of one-finger typing, no wonder Jafo "hardly ever" makes typos.
craeonics
Reply #449 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:37 AM
Reply #449 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:37 AM
Also interesting to see how the mind reconstructs sentences as you type, which is why there's an excess "but" in there.
Ruthven
Reply #451 Friday, March 8, 2002 1:10 PM
Reply #451 Friday, March 8, 2002 1:10 PM
Ugh.. enough discussion of intelligence already. Way more boring than coffee discussions
Okay, someone's really gonna hate me today. I just revised 8 of my old skins. How long before someone accuses me of just trying to boost my download numbers?
Okay, someone's really gonna hate me today. I just revised 8 of my old skins. How long before someone accuses me of just trying to boost my download numbers?
JavaBrain
Reply #452 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:24 PM
Reply #452 Friday, March 8, 2002 4:24 PM
You are just trying to boost your download numbers!
(there, it only took about 3 1/2 hours......)
(there, it only took about 3 1/2 hours......)
Doreen
Reply #453 Saturday, March 9, 2002 11:44 AM
Reply #453 Saturday, March 9, 2002 11:44 AM
wellll since this is a safe chatroom thread, I had to come tell you Glen that your wintab XP update for DB is beautiful!
arghhh! yet another thing I had to d/l!
(I spotted it last night over at LOS too)
arghhh! yet another thing I had to d/l!
(I spotted it last night over at LOS too)
Ruthven
Reply #454 Monday, March 11, 2002 8:17 AM
Reply #454 Monday, March 11, 2002 8:17 AM
Wow... 44 hours idle. Is this thread actually dead now? Oh, wait... guess once I click "Submit" it'll be 0 hours 0 minutes and 0 seconds idle.
Okay, Java... you figured me out. I'm just trying to boost my download numbers. Actually, if I REALLY wanted the ego boost, it was there before updating stuff anyway.
Doreen... thanks for the compliment -- I liked the way that one turned out, too, though I was a little concerned since I had to base it all off screenshots, as I don't have XP!
Okay, Java... you figured me out. I'm just trying to boost my download numbers.
Actually, if I REALLY wanted the ego boost, it was there before updating stuff anyway.Doreen... thanks for the compliment -- I liked the way that one turned out, too, though I was a little concerned since I had to base it all off screenshots, as I don't have XP!
feline
Reply #455 Monday, March 11, 2002 10:58 AM
Reply #455 Monday, March 11, 2002 10:58 AM
why is it that when the evil trolls run off with my net connection, this thread grows oh so slowly? 
feline
Reply #456 Monday, March 11, 2002 11:26 AM
Reply #456 Monday, March 11, 2002 11:26 AM
returning to the much beloved subject of coffee, why is this such a beloved subject? i suppose since i dont drink coffee i dont really see the attraction.
there is of course the school of thought that says that coffee is better than sex.
actually, this leads to some interesting ideas.
a) perhaps well over 90% of human males can be replaced by big cups of coffee.
Elf could be made happier by cloning significant other into a coffee based body created using the same tactics as the unicorns on the chocolate plannet.
so far, this looks like quite a good plan. less human males should mean more resorces for cats, along with increased oportunities for finding someone to settle down for a long and interesting chat with.
this does remind me, i never did post the basic design specs for the unicorns. the essential idea is actually quite simple.
since the unicors require a flexible and flowing outer coat / surface, with almost liquid qualities, the best tactic is to form it from a very large number of very small particles, that are held in position by a simple mesh of force defining the desired form.
this actually happens quite natteraly as a function of the mostly energy based life forms that are animating the unicorn forms.
the requirements for structural regidity (especially when Elf realises the posibilities of mountain drilling) require a solid core to the bodies. but that also follows quite natteraly from the basic nature. since the fields tend to be layered up to the outer surface, it is simple to arange for alternate layers of liquid and smoothly flowing solid components all the way though to the core.
so, the same idea can be quite easily adapted to human shaped forms. so the main question this leaves us with is, should these unicorns have chocolate, or strawberry cream centres?
there is of course the school of thought that says that coffee is better than sex.
actually, this leads to some interesting ideas.
a) perhaps well over 90% of human males can be replaced by big cups of coffee.
Elf could be made happier by cloning significant other into a coffee based body created using the same tactics as the unicorns on the chocolate plannet.so far, this looks like quite a good plan. less human males should mean more resorces for cats, along with increased oportunities for finding someone to settle down for a long and interesting chat with.
this does remind me, i never did post the basic design specs for the unicorns. the essential idea is actually quite simple.
since the unicors require a flexible and flowing outer coat / surface, with almost liquid qualities, the best tactic is to form it from a very large number of very small particles, that are held in position by a simple mesh of force defining the desired form.
this actually happens quite natteraly as a function of the mostly energy based life forms that are animating the unicorn forms.
the requirements for structural regidity (especially when Elf realises the posibilities of mountain drilling
) require a solid core to the bodies. but that also follows quite natteraly from the basic nature. since the fields tend to be layered up to the outer surface, it is simple to arange for alternate layers of liquid and smoothly flowing solid components all the way though to the core.so, the same idea can be quite easily adapted to human shaped forms. so the main question this leaves us with is, should these unicorns have chocolate, or strawberry cream centres?
JavaBrain
Reply #457 Monday, March 11, 2002 11:37 AM
Reply #457 Monday, March 11, 2002 11:37 AM
I think the weekend kills it. I'm on a dialup at home and don't even *think* about opening the thread. Here, at work, on a T1 is a different story!!!!
craeonics
Reply #458 Monday, March 11, 2002 11:47 AM
Reply #458 Monday, March 11, 2002 11:47 AM
If I started on friday, it'd be loaded by sunday evening at home.
feline
Reply #459 Monday, March 11, 2002 12:00 PM
Reply #459 Monday, March 11, 2002 12:00 PM
feline wants a new solution to making work problems go away
i am wondering how much chocolate body paint it requires to make the average problem go away
i am wondering how much chocolate body paint it requires to make the average problem go away
JavaBrain
Reply #460 Monday, March 11, 2002 2:07 PM
Reply #460 Monday, March 11, 2002 2:07 PM
Chocolate body paint? Now, that is an interesting subject...
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Reply #441 Thursday, March 7, 2002 11:43 AM