WinAmp 3 boycotted?
Sunday, July 15, 2001 by Xymantix | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I'm amazed and aghast! I just got through reading some of the comments on DeviantArt regarding the latest WinAmp3 skin submissions. Unbeknownst to me, there is an entire subculture of people who actually like all of the confines and restrictions of WinAmp2. Indeed, they are so enraptured by the 275x116 rectangle that they won’t ever make the leap to WinAmp3 and its free-form skinning. How many others are there? I thought I’d start an informal poll to see what others thought…
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kenray
Reply #23 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:46 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:46 PM
Jafo,
I respect the creative work that is done within the confines of the Winamp Jail, but those confines aren't what makes it popular, i don't think...
Lets be for real, for a lot of skinners, it's the downloads that count, what the papers call "egoboo".
you could do the worlds greatest Coolplayer skin and get 1000 downloads over a week, while jafos new "BritneyAmp" will get fifty thousand downloads the first day.
that is where winamp, wins out, in my humble opinion.
I respect the creative work that is done within the confines of the Winamp Jail, but those confines aren't what makes it popular, i don't think...
Lets be for real, for a lot of skinners, it's the downloads that count, what the papers call "egoboo".
you could do the worlds greatest Coolplayer skin and get 1000 downloads over a week, while jafos new "BritneyAmp" will get fifty thousand downloads the first day.
that is where winamp, wins out, in my humble opinion.
Buzz_Hog
Reply #24 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:46 PM
Reply #24 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:46 PM
Give people too much freedom and they freak out cause they do not know how to handle it. They like the security of having "safety walls" and don't tend to try and push beyond the limitations.
The real irony, people want the freedom to change things (skin them), but only to a certain point... anything beyond established boundries is jumping too much into the "unstructured"... People fear the unknown.
The real irony, people want the freedom to change things (skin them), but only to a certain point... anything beyond established boundries is jumping too much into the "unstructured"... People fear the unknown.
Jafo
Reply #25 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:59 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:59 PM
That's not strictly true, Buzz...at least not in my case....the two main proggies I screw with are WinAMP and LiteSTEP, and I think you have to agree only ONE of those is structured, while the other is VERY definitely free-form and unstructured. So it ain't fear of the unknown that has me skinning WinAMP, and I don't even think I have any of mine on their site so I doubt I'm trawling for downloads....[for that I'd have to replace the trans bits with Britney's tits].
I just happen to like the challenge of proving you can be individual in style in such a regulated format...and some people [not many] actually seem to agree that mine are a 'bit different'....although some child on Deviant claimed 'Blame Maxim' was 'old-hat', so I explained it was 3 years old in the making, and that mine was one of the first to delve into transparency to any real degree.
Now, admittedly, WinAMP 'photoskins' of nubile wenches will be as popular and prolific as their equivalent in Wallpapers, and we can all agree that they rarely show any real creativity, but that is merely a fault of a program's popularity and ability to be simple, but as I said, free-form skin formats don't preclude Britney's tits from being emblazoned across them, in fact, it could make it even easier...you already have the 'knobs' for two controls....hehe...
I just happen to like the challenge of proving you can be individual in style in such a regulated format...and some people [not many] actually seem to agree that mine are a 'bit different'....although some child on Deviant claimed 'Blame Maxim' was 'old-hat', so I explained it was 3 years old in the making, and that mine was one of the first to delve into transparency to any real degree.
Now, admittedly, WinAMP 'photoskins' of nubile wenches will be as popular and prolific as their equivalent in Wallpapers, and we can all agree that they rarely show any real creativity, but that is merely a fault of a program's popularity and ability to be simple, but as I said, free-form skin formats don't preclude Britney's tits from being emblazoned across them, in fact, it could make it even easier...you already have the 'knobs' for two controls....hehe...
Buzz_Hog
Reply #26 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:25 PM
Reply #26 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:25 PM
Jafo,
In speaking of "people" I'm using a term of generalization... As with any such usage, there ARE exceptions as you yourself prove. Humans as living beings desire some form of structure, hence the acts of becomming civilized. The desire for rules to abide by take away the fears of having to make decisions on ones own part.
As Crae says.... Sheep
The act of saying, we don't want freeform skinning of WinAmp is similar to the sheep saying, don't leave the gates open farmer, for it is too much freedom for us to handle.
Buzz_Hog crawls back into his padded cell....
In speaking of "people" I'm using a term of generalization... As with any such usage, there ARE exceptions as you yourself prove. Humans as living beings desire some form of structure, hence the acts of becomming civilized. The desire for rules to abide by take away the fears of having to make decisions on ones own part.
As Crae says.... Sheep
The act of saying, we don't want freeform skinning of WinAmp is similar to the sheep saying, don't leave the gates open farmer, for it is too much freedom for us to handle.
Buzz_Hog crawls back into his padded cell....
Buzz_Hog
Reply #27 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:26 PM
Reply #27 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:26 PM
and aren't 'knobs' the universal symbol for control???
Jafo
Reply #29 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:58 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:58 PM
jtf...actually I think Britney is a dog....but then I'm weird...
kenray
Reply #30 Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:19 AM
Reply #30 Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:19 AM
britney looks kinda plastic-y
now, kristen johnson...theres a real woman!!!!!!!!!
now, kristen johnson...theres a real woman!!!!!!!!!
NeoRamasay
Reply #33 Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:08 AM
Reply #33 Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:08 AM
hey, i just D/Led WinAMP3 and i found it not much slower to load and run than WinAMP2.76 (at least on my machine [pIII-533 256meg of RAM running Win2K]) i hope once it gets into beta stages and up to finalization point, it will get faster and better than WinAMP2, and will still be able to use your WinAMP2 skins anyway!
craeonics
Reply #34 Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:10 AM
Reply #34 Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:10 AM
When I started WinAmp3 it took more than ten minutes to start on my poor old p75...
NeoRamasay
Reply #35 Friday, July 20, 2001 5:08 PM
Reply #35 Friday, July 20, 2001 5:08 PM
and why, pray tell, do you still have a p75? i thought those were all scraped for the metal in them to make newer proccessors? 
... j/k. 
... j/k. 
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Reply #21 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:22 AM