Why my XP wallpaper is available when logged on but not in guest mode?
Monday, June 25, 2001 by skinner7892 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hi all!
I wonder why I can see the wallpaper I uploaded yesterday only when I'm logged on. When I come in not logged, it just doesn't appear at all. Any particular reason why it happens? It's an WinXP theme btw.
Thanks in advance!
Flipnet
I wonder why I can see the wallpaper I uploaded yesterday only when I'm logged on. When I come in not logged, it just doesn't appear at all. Any particular reason why it happens? It's an WinXP theme btw.
Thanks in advance!
Flipnet
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thecat2000
Reply #22 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:45 PM
Reply #22 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:45 PM
Crazy Girl ? well if that is intented to point at me Treetog, I didnt realise it.
I understand MisterME's words on this though, and of course I see what he's is saying about it. But well what can I say ? doesnt matter really considering the fact that every I have said just falls on deaf ears. Or just plain ignorant ones. I conceed to the fact that Xp is no longer offering anything new to the community, and is very much old hat though. But instead of bitching to me about this try telling this to all the other XP authors, who just ignore your complaints. At least I have the desency to come into this thread and talk with you about it I just dont see any other XP author doing this.
So call me Crazy if you want, it is a matter of your own oppinion if that is what you think of me then fine. I came into this community with respect for everyone, and wanted to be apart of this community. I loved to get involved and tried to offer some logical guidence on some issues. But I have been harrased to death and even personally insulted, and degraded by people who have nothing else to do better than pull my imports to pieces and personally attack me with some words I wont even repeat here.
I said if I am continued to be harrased then I just wont do any more work at all of any kind. wether it is original or not.
Yes,. I do refer things back to me in a personal light, because in most cases when one is referring to XP work in the top downloads or authors they should realise I was in there. So yes it affects me too. That is why I give a personal word on this.
Well with that, if people think I am mad for trying to show the truth about this community and the shameless things that go on here, like predjudisim, double Standards and the such, then They are not strong enough to want to change things in the first place. This damned community is hash on newbies too, with very little tolerance for them accusing them of ripping one thing or another. Deviantart is the worst place for this. I think Jarks plans of the new things he is bringing in to curb bad posted comments is a good thing too.
All I can say is that this place was an eXPerience..At the moment I am unsure if to bother Skinning any more anyway. I WAs planning on creating some new graphics for a Blue Magic WB skin i was planning, but what the hell..Maybe it isnt worth it anyway. The experience here has put me off doing anything I think. God and i only posted to this thread in the first place to help another Newbie find his feet here.
I understand MisterME's words on this though, and of course I see what he's is saying about it. But well what can I say ? doesnt matter really considering the fact that every I have said just falls on deaf ears. Or just plain ignorant ones. I conceed to the fact that Xp is no longer offering anything new to the community, and is very much old hat though. But instead of bitching to me about this try telling this to all the other XP authors, who just ignore your complaints. At least I have the desency to come into this thread and talk with you about it I just dont see any other XP author doing this.
So call me Crazy if you want, it is a matter of your own oppinion if that is what you think of me then fine. I came into this community with respect for everyone, and wanted to be apart of this community. I loved to get involved and tried to offer some logical guidence on some issues. But I have been harrased to death and even personally insulted, and degraded by people who have nothing else to do better than pull my imports to pieces and personally attack me with some words I wont even repeat here.
I said if I am continued to be harrased then I just wont do any more work at all of any kind. wether it is original or not.
Yes,. I do refer things back to me in a personal light, because in most cases when one is referring to XP work in the top downloads or authors they should realise I was in there. So yes it affects me too. That is why I give a personal word on this.
Well with that, if people think I am mad for trying to show the truth about this community and the shameless things that go on here, like predjudisim, double Standards and the such, then They are not strong enough to want to change things in the first place. This damned community is hash on newbies too, with very little tolerance for them accusing them of ripping one thing or another. Deviantart is the worst place for this. I think Jarks plans of the new things he is bringing in to curb bad posted comments is a good thing too.
All I can say is that this place was an eXPerience..At the moment I am unsure if to bother Skinning any more anyway. I WAs planning on creating some new graphics for a Blue Magic WB skin i was planning, but what the hell..Maybe it isnt worth it anyway. The experience here has put me off doing anything I think. God and i only posted to this thread in the first place to help another Newbie find his feet here.
treetog
Reply #23 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:30 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:30 PM
thecat: For sure I'm not calling you nuts! 
crazy girl = Sylva_cg76
this was her aka in the skinz org. good old times.
crazy girl = Sylva_cg76
this was her aka in the skinz org. good old times.
treetog
Reply #24 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:34 PM
Reply #24 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:34 PM
you sure takes everything too personally, I'm sorry if you missunderstud me. 
MurkWorks
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:40 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:40 PM
All's I got to say is I can't wait for everybody to move on away from XP. Then when i come here to WinXPCustomize.com I will see something new. I am so sick of all of this. It's like the Aqua craze on Steriods. It's sad to see a lot of people just rehash the same thing over and over and over and over again.
I am so sick of all of this. It's like the Aqua craze on Steriods. It's sad to see a lot of people just rehash the same thing over and over and over and over again.
migellito
Reply #27 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:06 PM
Reply #27 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:06 PM
yikes..
i use a mac at home, pc at work. when i go to some mac specific wallpaper sites, i see the same sort of thing. tons.. i mean -tons-.. of dtp's with apples in them.. g4s in them.. cubes, imacs, ad slogans, john lennon's beard.. sigh..
i never dl any of them. i already know what kind of machine i have, and which os.. i don't need to advert it to myself. personally, if i ever dl an os wp of any kind, sooner or later i fudge out the letters. it's too much like an 'included' 'default' dt.
on the matter of creativity.. as long as something is based on any company's logo, it's just not very creative or original, no matter how much one does to it.. by definition..
"this is not a competition, only an exhibition - please, no wagering" (& no hard feelings..
i use a mac at home, pc at work. when i go to some mac specific wallpaper sites, i see the same sort of thing. tons.. i mean -tons-.. of dtp's with apples in them.. g4s in them.. cubes, imacs, ad slogans, john lennon's beard.. sigh..
i never dl any of them. i already know what kind of machine i have, and which os.. i don't need to advert it to myself. personally, if i ever dl an os wp of any kind, sooner or later i fudge out the letters. it's too much like an 'included' 'default' dt.
on the matter of creativity.. as long as something is based on any company's logo, it's just not very creative or original, no matter how much one does to it.. by definition..
"this is not a competition, only an exhibition - please, no wagering" (& no hard feelings..
thecat2000
Reply #28 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:59 PM
Reply #28 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:59 PM
ok what if you make some thing for a specific logo that is new and hasnt been used. Might say windows on the box, but the skin is radically different in style to anything Ms or Apple might have thought up. this cannot be called un original, as all it uses is a logo and nothing elese...
Just a thought...
Just a thought...
Sylva
Reply #29 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:19 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:19 PM
As long as the creator of skin is also the creator of the logo the skin is based on, no, it can't be considered unoriginal.
thecat2000
Reply #30 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:58 PM
Reply #30 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:58 PM
aah so if the Logo is a registered trademark of like M$ and the skinner uses that logo in their skin design then it would be considered un original ? even though the skin is nothing that Micorosoft or Apple have ever done ? is that right ?
Jafo
Reply #31 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:23 PM
Reply #31 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:23 PM
Ms. Cat...the wall may be original, but if a logo is included which belongs to someone else, then the finished product is not your own....
Jafo
Reply #32 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:25 PM
Reply #32 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:25 PM
Unless of course, you have the logo's creator/owner's permission to include it, and preferably note the fact on the work...
thecat2000
Reply #33 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:36 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:36 PM
aahh. thats what I thought Jafo. But still seems odd to think though, as in the example I mentioned, Where you have an original Wallpaper or skin that is nothing Apple or Microsoft have done, but you use their logo, then the rest of the work is concidered un original ? I mean only the logo in this example would have been used !
this seems harsh.
[Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent]...
But still seems odd to think though, as in the example I mentioned, Where you have an original Wallpaper or skin that is nothing Apple or Microsoft have done, but you use their logo, then the rest of the work is concidered un original ? I mean only the logo in this example would have been used !this seems harsh.
[Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent]
...
Jafo
Reply #34 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:17 PM
Reply #34 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:17 PM
Ms. Cat, for an artwork to be 'original', you have to be able to claim authorship over ALL of the work, not just parts, or the majority of it.
A perfect example is all of the Community Skin projects or the one at Deviant, as well. I did LiteSTEP themes for all three, but the graphics and walls were either directly or indirectly from others in the 'collective', and were not 'specifically or completely' mine.
The graphics in these cases were released for the express purpose of creating the suite of skins, and so we all involved had exclusive rights to use them.
Of course, if I were now to use those graphics in a different project of my own, the permission I had to use them for the CS project would NOT follow on to this latter one.
I feel my brain wandering...so I'll stop...but you probably get what I mean....
A perfect example is all of the Community Skin projects or the one at Deviant, as well. I did LiteSTEP themes for all three, but the graphics and walls were either directly or indirectly from others in the 'collective', and were not 'specifically or completely' mine.
The graphics in these cases were released for the express purpose of creating the suite of skins, and so we all involved had exclusive rights to use them.
Of course, if I were now to use those graphics in a different project of my own, the permission I had to use them for the CS project would NOT follow on to this latter one.
I feel my brain wandering...so I'll stop...but you probably get what I mean....
Alexandrie
Reply #35 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:35 PM
Reply #35 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:35 PM
thecat if you are not able to have an original wall without that damn logo it's because you are affraid that your wall is not so good.
So if you think your walls are not so good, rework on it until you think it deserves a lot of downloads without that XP logo
So if you think your walls are not so good, rework on it until you think it deserves a lot of downloads without that XP logo
thecat2000
Reply #36 Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:36 AM
Reply #36 Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:36 AM
I never actually did many XP wallpapers Alexandrie, but I note many who have.. I feel incensed by the way people uploaded their XP wallpapers claiming they are original when in fact they are using the XP logo. Ok so if the wallpaper is original of these Autors who I wont mention by name here, then why did it have to have the XP logo in the first place. I know one of them mentioned that the style they used was nothing anyone else had done.
But I have a deep feeling that they attached the XPlogo for one of two possible reasons, and it is the general feeling of a lot of people on this. That it was to get in to the top ten, or they just have an over zealous enthusiasim for everything XP. Now dont get me wrong I like windows XP but for the new features it offers. I will still use some thing Like Luna until a better XP enabled theme is along. by the time this happens I hope everyone else will have moved on from XP and XP will be hardly downloaded anyway. Except for some new to Stardock programs of course.
Jafo : - yep your right i understand what your saying
But I have a deep feeling that they attached the XPlogo for one of two possible reasons, and it is the general feeling of a lot of people on this. That it was to get in to the top ten, or they just have an over zealous enthusiasim for everything XP. Now dont get me wrong I like windows XP but for the new features it offers. I will still use some thing Like Luna until a better XP enabled theme is along. by the time this happens I hope everyone else will have moved on from XP and XP will be hardly downloaded anyway. Except for some new to Stardock programs of course.
Jafo : - yep your right i understand what your saying
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Reply #21 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:08 AM
Oh, and please don't make your stuff for the public, make them for yourself. Egocentric behaviour is good in "art" .