Check out this wallpaper, I made... it is by far my best work...

Saturday, September 20, 2003 by naitsirch79 | Discussion: Skinning

I worked on this for 2 days and I have to say, it is my best work to date. the pic is only a 640 so it is unable to be used as a wallpaper.

Anyhow, what you all think...When I submited it I attached this story with it as well,



It is 3038 and the planet Latvinious has met inevitable destruction. Latvinious has evacuated 3 years prior to the cataclysmic disaster which is currently taking place at this exact moment of time. The light source you see is a the birth of a star, which won’t come into full existence for another 1,230,7540 years. Latvniniousan’s new that one distant day, in the unrecognizable future, this beautiful planet would meet its’ conclusion. Never did they expect it to come so soon. One brave soul, who is unafraid to come face to face with his creator, opened his Photoshop 7, pulled out his Wacom tablet and drew the planet and its’ new found friend, RAGE.


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Jafo
Reply #1 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:13 AM
There's a phrase used in Architecture known as 'trees at 3 foot centers'....meaning contrived creation/layout....in this case....planet in middle and 'nebulae' in all 4 corners.....one word....'composition'.
naitsirch79
Reply #2 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:15 AM
Huh?

can you give that to me agian,

I think your saying you don't like my nevula in all 4 corners
naitsirch79
Reply #3 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:17 AM
I see what you mean, but I am kinda stuck there


I guess I could just add more on the right side going up and aroun a little to offset it...

but over all what do you think?
naitsirch79
Reply #4 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:19 AM
oooo, oooo and check this out I was thinking about moving the light cloud to the crashing astroidmaking it sort of like the cloud was hiding it all along and bammmm it got pounded...
Jafo
Reply #5 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:21 AM

Overall I think that it looks both unrealistic and childish.


Space scenes are probably the hardest works to realize as they by necessity must be 'imagined', not created from life.


Most amateurish works are attempts at science-fiction or space scenes.


 


Remember........ you DID ask...

goodmorphing
Reply #6 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:24 AM
The four cournered nebulae is really distracting to me. It looks like a big X. Then the planet dead center... it would be more interesting were it less balanced. And the white thing is also confusing.
naitsirch79
Reply #7 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:24 AM
Jaffo,


I dare you do do a better space scene....

That is all I will say...

your remark, to say the least, was childish...


goodmorphing
Reply #8 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:27 AM
...also there is something about the depth... kind of like those visual puzzles. Like the five-legged elephant. I start understanding the depth of an area to be distant and suddenly it is forefront in a disconcerting way.
goodmorphing
Reply #9 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:29 AM
I don't get it, you put your stuff here and get someone like Jafo who is an expert in the field to give an evaluation because you asked and because he is nice, and then when he gives it you throw it in his face with an insult. I'm not even opening your threads any more.
naitsirch79
Reply #10 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:30 AM
the depth of what? the planet? that sucker has dept... You may be right in the sense of the nebula... I may have to go back an work on that...
I have an idea for it though...

But how is the overall effect... I think it is very good...I could probably find something wrong with Britney Spears too...I still want to have her children though...
naitsirch79
Reply #11 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:35 AM
Overall I think that it looks both unrealistic and childish.



hmmmm.


you said:(goodmorphing)

and get someone like Jafo who is an expert in the field to give an evaluation because you asked and because he is nice



And I say...

That is exactly what I mean about a "clique"

how old are you 3... obviously that was an unnessacerry comment from him, or at the very least one that was upsetting to me...then you come and say because he is nice....

Have you ever heard of the word "EMPATHY" it means, in short, do unto others as though you would like for them to do unto you. <<
I respected his first critique, the second was uncalled for...

Come on with this silly banter...

lets be "Adults"
Jafo
Reply #12 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:37 AM

naitsirch79....either post your work publicly here and face the consequences...or submit it for moderation/approval and face the consequences.


If you desire criticism you will get it.


....and you did.


The reason I do not post space scenes of my own doing is exactly because I KNOW they will look like crap.....why?....because I know they are hard to pull off well.


If you realise exactly how hard they are to do you would not be submitting this as is.

naitsirch79
Reply #13 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:49 AM
well first off, I have gotten good response from gfxartist and deviantart

one 5 out of 7. so it must not be "that bad"...

could I improve yes. but give me things that could make it better...don't just throw off some snide comment. if it looks "unrealistic" give a solution to why you feel that way....for the most part I agree with what you say, but would love the solution on how I could improve, not a corilation to my youthfulness...., jj

lets just be cool...
Jafo
Reply #14 Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:58 AM

Change the 'balance'


Improve depth perception


Remove cartoon-like colouring


Spots for distant stars look unnaturally even


Blotch at upper left looks nothing more than a 'blotch'...... what is it?


Ask yourself would anyone REALLY want this as their wallpaper, and if so, for how long?


 


Remember yet once more that you are supposed to be submitting wallpapers not enrolling in Digital Art 101.


 


I'd strongly suggest you keep practising.  Give up on this and start anew, as rehashing a 'bad idea' will just end up with a 'rehashed bad idea'...

Jafo
Reply #15 Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:01 AM
goodmorphing.....don't worry that people will want to hit back at criticism...and in this case me.....I'm quite used to it.....
Styl-X Design
Reply #16 Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:03 AM
it could be me, but I kind see any picture...

naitsirch79, get yourself bryce, solves your problem, it isn't THAT expensive, and you dont have to learn much for it.
naitsirch79
Reply #17 Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:06 AM
Ok wait hold on,

First off, Thanks that helps

lets break this back down...

Depth Perception... I guess moving the planet and what not a little to the right and up should do the trick, and I know, I have to fix those damn nebula's

"cartoon like coloring" actually this is textured pretty well. are you referring to the nebulas' because if you are I kinda see your point, other than that the planet is not cartoon colored. The other rist is a little bright with blue but that can be changed easily. Also the breaking planet "cracks" can easily be taken out or at least darkened up. with out them it looks more realistic to the planet, with them looks unrealistic but oh so cool...I can also tone done the colors of the rings as well, but hey Uranius has some pretty cool rings...I think I will leave them...


Spots for distant stars, I am guessing I need more of a "blurred look for stars that are in the distance. That should be easy enough to do with another set of stars and this time blurr them.
"blotch at upper left" hmmmm,,,,I could work on this I guess to make it better, but if you read the story, it is the planets lightsource, so I will have to make it better or move and rotate it around, kinda matching it up with the astroid.

naitsirch79
Reply #18 Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:07 AM
who is Bryce,... I have a frind named bryce...


anywebsite for that...
IPlural
Reply #19 Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:08 AM
well heck I would like a look but the link isn't showing up?

mmm...

naitsirch, not knowing your back ground as far as art goes I will make a couple of suggestions that might help some.

Checking out some Architectural Design and something on Perspective Drawing can help even the best artist as reference and understanding the positioning of things, shading and such.

As Jafo states Composition is also a key feature in any work of art.

Anything you take up to do should have a concise plan of attack. be it art, a job, mowing the lawn and so forth.

Do some sketchs with possible layouts of key elements, know that a lot of clutter will draw attention away from the key point your wish peoples eyes to rest upon most.

Colors will draw eyes away and also fits right in there with clutter. Detail of focus helps keep attention where you would like it to stay. If you take three balls and line them up along a path leading to a vanishing point you would probably want sharper focus placed on the one closest to you and the least on the farthest.

whats you screen name at Deviant and I can go take a look there if the link doesn't show up after I reload the site updates?




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IPlural
Reply #20 Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:12 AM
well I guess you dinked it? got an error finding the server (DNS)



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