not in-house...but if they prescribe it you will receive it.

I had the benefit of growing up poor. Healthcare was never something we had to worry about.

edit: should probably mention that my mother had Lupus during those years....she's getting close to 70 now.

As I edited above.

Clearly this is a much better way to go for routine care for those without insurance than visiting the ER. But my point above is that people do die in this country directly attributable to the fact that they do not have insurance and a lower cost option than the ER does not preclude that fact.

I think the figure is that 47,000 people die per year in the US simply because they do not have insurance. This is even though ER's must accept and stabilize anyone that comes through the door or that there are various other low cost options out there.

And the fact is that in France, England, Canada, and pretty much *every* other developed country and many not so developed countries in the world 0 people die each year because they have no insurance.

OH MY GOD!!!! we're on the way to socialism now, are we? and reagan is used a sign of better times? reagan was one of the worst presidents on our history. doesn't anyone remember we suffered thru 3 reccessions during his terms? he lied to congress and americans regarding the contra deal, too. want me to give more examples of reagan's bullshit? what is it with all the right-wingers wanting a return to reagan-like leadership? this country can't survive another round of reagan.

one of obama campaign promises was a reform of healthcare and he delivered. the changes aren't nearly progressive enough in my opinion but it's better than the status-quo. and dont' get me started on palin's 'death panels'. the only death panels are the insurance companies. that's a fact! want me to tell my personal stories of dealing with an insurance company? i can give a great example of how they don't give a damn about any of us.

most of the country was against healthcare reform? not true! granted, most people may have been against the hcr bill as it is written but 12 to 15 percent of the people against felt it wasn't progressive enough. one of the things peaple are bitching about is the mandate to buy insurance, correct? are you not mandated to buy auto insurance? is there a penalty if you don't buy auto insurance? conservatives such as nixon, bob dole, and romney were all for a mandate to buy health insurance before it became part of the hcr bill. it's amazing how so many of the amendments (over 200) to the bill were wanted by the republicans but now that the bill is passed without any votes from their side of the aisle, they're all bitching and whining about those same amendments. a great example of that is the amendment that excludes certain people in government from being affected by the hcr bill. that amendment was wanted by oklahoma senator colburn, if i remember correctly.

no one, and i mean NO ONE knows if this bill is going to cost or save the country money. everyone can cite the cbo or any other source as to what the bill will or won't do but none of us can foresee the future. at least, we have joined the rest of the civilized world and will grant access to affordable healthcare for everyone within or country's borders. 

Brad...I'm here to tell you from first hand knowledge...Medicaid is the biggest scam I've ever seen. Over 3 years they have paid out some where around $70 or $80,000 on my behalf for this...and I use the term loosely...healthcare...it's more like "couldn't healthcare less."  And I am no closer now than I was 3 years ago in finding out what my problem is...and it just keeps getting worse. And I am more pissed about all that money spent for nothing than I am about them not finding out what's wrong. Medicaid is just another scam.

Have you ever been to one? I have...and some of the things you said are true. 1...I doubt it unless your a child/future tax payer...2...just the basics...3 Of course when your pumping out taxpayers....4 See 1 & 2....5 Dental care is extremely hard to get if you can't afford it...it's not considered the same as health problems are...and the clinics are NOT cheap...about the same as a regular dentist...6 Because it easier to take money from someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

And no...I'm not trying to be funny or sarcastic or point fingers...I've seen this stuff happening first hand and know people that have had it happen to them as well. If any of you think this free medicaid or these clinics really help people think again. Yeah...people show up at them...but help is in short supply.The only ones getting helped are the doctors and whoever else is getting paid for anyone using this service. And I know the doctors don't make a lot from medicaid....but someone is.

However this is old news and the civility of the thread is best served by letting such comments slide. Everyone knows the right has Reagan sainted. There's nothing to be gained by going there.

Again I have to say that the bill as it stands basically sucks. But it is one thing that's been a long time coming and that is a first step and that first step having been taken cannot be untaken.

Judging by this "bill" we can't afford another year of Obama either.

CBS poll yesterday showed only 37% support it, and over 48% disapprove, along with other polls today and yesterday showing the majority of people want the GOP to fight the bill.  Of course we can also look at the 8% approval rate of Pelosi and the numbers of democrats who are poised to be ousted in November.

Silly progressives.  This bill "sucks", but hey - it's something.  

Yes, I went to one quite regularly until I joined the Navy. Then I discovered what poor health care was like........unitl Reagan replaced Carter then things got a LOT better.

Good News Pas, Dems just defeated an amendment to keep Viagara from being covered 

	USA TODAY/ GALLUP POLL The new health care bill: Source: USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of 1,005 adults Monday. Margin of error: +/-4 percentage points.

The difference is that the CBS poll was taken *before* the vote whereas the USA Today/Gallup poll was taken *after* the vote.

As far as "other" polls taken after the vote care to provide a link or at least name them?

Don't forget that the teabaggers will be contesting Republican seats as well. Remember NY23?

But if you want to pine away waiting for November to usher in a new conservative golden age feel free to hold your breath.

Also if you're waiting for the Supremes to legislate from the bench and strike down a law that you don't like on the basis that it's unconstitutional even though there are provisions for states to opt out then you're free to hold your breath some more. Don't worry once you turn blue and pass out you'll start breathing once again.

Like I said, bad or good plan, at least he is trying, and I agree with you about creating a good plan, but who is to say if something is good or bad, and why is no one except President Obama trying to create a health care plan of their own? Where are the "good plans" if there is such a thing?

Not at all.  Just a question. 

Rasmussen - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/march_2010/55_favor_repeal_of_health_care_bill

How long does the pot need to be stirred until it's soup?

And what on Earth is this doing on the GC2 "Game Talk" page?

Teabaggers At Capitol Chant “N’ Word, Spit On Black Congressman

I for one always look forward to comments from non-Americans on American issues.  But I really wish they would at least educate themselves on the issue before commenting.  There are several in the Stardock family of websites that could run rings around Americans on American issues, but unfortunatly most cannot.  And indeed health care is one issue where the "furiners" that have commented do not appear to have a clue on how America works or the issues.

Please, before posting more errors and making incorrect statements learn.  Health care in the US is available to EVERYONE including illegal aliens.  And you do not have to join anything.  And if you cannot pay, you do not (how can you if you cannot?).

The health care billl is both a misnomer and bad.  It does nothing for health care.  It is all about Health Insurance.  And for those touting its greatness, I would ask one question.  if it is so good, why is Obama and Congress and the senior staff of each exempt from it.

And finally, I would agree with the OP.  Let's find who is making the threats against congresspeople and prosecucte them to the max!  But do not go on a witch hunt just because you "think" it is someone.  As we have seen all too often (Kentucky, Colorado, Wisconsin). the guilty parties who trashed democrat cars and offices were found to be democrats.  I expect the same here.  A leopard does not change its spots.

Problem is - none of it happened.  All alleged, but then no one could be found that had witnessed it.  Just another attempt at democrats trying to play the victim to gain sympathy.  And you fell for it (more likely just wished it was true).

Great source.  using a derogative name to spread a false rumor.  Now that is investigative journalism at its best (or what passes for it these days).

wow, lot of heat and so much forgotten of what the previous administration is responsible for.

I read "will of the people" several times in these threads and how Obama is not doing the "will of the people". just a minor point here. health care reform was a part of his presidential promises, he was elected by a majority ergo he is doing the will of the people, just saying....

well, like it or not it has been kind of exciting. we haven't had so much in your face crap since the 60's. I can only hope that I'm as right as I was back then as you all were wrong.

Sorry buddy, but that allegation is a complete lie.  There were dozens of cameras/video cameras present and NOT 1 slur or anything was recorded.

Link

Will you be retracting your statement, or continue with the Tea Party is racist lies?

Here, here!  Excellent point!