WinCustomize subscriber goodies!
Wednesday, October 2, 2002 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
Lots of goodies for subscribers.First: The first WinCustomize subscriber premium suite is now available. Here's a screenshot: https://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/odnt-oct02a.jpg. This suite includes a WindowBlinds visual style by Alexandrie. A ObjectBar theme (with hotkey support) by me. And a full icon suite by Paul Boyer that makes full use of Windows XP alpha blending (it's awesome).
Second: A new release candidate of the WinCustomize skin browser is now available for subscribers. The new version is vastly faster at browsing the libraries thanks to a new method of retrieving the info. This is definitely an update to get.
Third: There is now a resources box in the lower left side of the page here that gives subscribers a fast way to access the software and other content as well as having links for software and soon a tutorial.
Have fun! BTW, the skin in this preview shot is XP Corona by Alexandrie (https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=1&SkinID=2850).
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Ande
Reply #42 Friday, October 4, 2002 7:16 PM
Reply #42 Friday, October 4, 2002 7:16 PM
Frogboy you know we will like the "premium skin packs etc" better because {I am assuming) they will be of a high standard. People will not buy an inferior product. Will part the revenue from these "Packs" be of assistance in a higher standard of product for the Skin browser.
Oh and Frogboy I think your post has a very threating overtone and is a bit of a cop out. As soon as somebody says they do not like somthing you come the big heavy. The negative posts here are not flaming, some citizens are just a little disappointed.
I have the utmost respect for the skinners and contributors who give of their time and labour at no cost to anyone but themselves. However I do perfer some skins to others. Not many though judging by the amount I download. I don't skin but but I contribute by paying my way WB, IconPkg, OBJ DKP, Skin Brsr and the three Pixtudio Suites. I am a little disappointed with this suite but as your post says I will soon have the option to pay for premium suites.
Oh and Frogboy I think your post has a very threating overtone and is a bit of a cop out. As soon as somebody says they do not like somthing you come the big heavy. The negative posts here are not flaming, some citizens are just a little disappointed.
I have the utmost respect for the skinners and contributors who give of their time and labour at no cost to anyone but themselves. However I do perfer some skins to others. Not many though judging by the amount I download. I don't skin but but I contribute by paying my way WB, IconPkg, OBJ DKP, Skin Brsr and the three Pixtudio Suites. I am a little disappointed with this suite but as your post says I will soon have the option to pay for premium suites.
mormegil
Reply #43 Friday, October 4, 2002 8:16 PM
Reply #43 Friday, October 4, 2002 8:16 PM
I would like to say as one of the contributers of this premium pack, that I don't mind negative feedback, but there has been some comments that are just plain rude. And that dose sting a bit. I believe in Wincustomize and will continue to support it in many ways. I know there are many others who feel the way I do.
I know for a fact that allot of work goes in to these, not to mention the huge amounts of time that I myself and others put into skins that we post for free, I think not to be ripped on in not a unreasonable thing to hope for.
I almost exclusively post my work here and have no real completes about the users and community that frequents the site. Except one, there seems to always be an underlying feeling that stardock owes you(us) and I have to say bull, the give me what I paid for in the products that they make.
I show my support by contributing to this site. If you don't like stardock, don't use this site, if you don't like my skins don't download them. If you have a point to make, positive or negative, make it with some tack and try not to be insulting. We have lost many a fine contributer because people want to just be mean. I am not going to stop because of it, but please think before you insult. A cool rational well sated complete is one thing, just saying "This Sucks" is not necessary.
This is just my opinion. And I am sure allot of you will rite it off. But hopefully a few people will think a bit before you post.
I know for a fact that allot of work goes in to these, not to mention the huge amounts of time that I myself and others put into skins that we post for free, I think not to be ripped on in not a unreasonable thing to hope for.
I almost exclusively post my work here and have no real completes about the users and community that frequents the site. Except one, there seems to always be an underlying feeling that stardock owes you(us) and I have to say bull, the give me what I paid for in the products that they make.
I show my support by contributing to this site. If you don't like stardock, don't use this site, if you don't like my skins don't download them. If you have a point to make, positive or negative, make it with some tack and try not to be insulting. We have lost many a fine contributer because people want to just be mean. I am not going to stop because of it, but please think before you insult. A cool rational well sated complete is one thing, just saying "This Sucks" is not necessary.
This is just my opinion. And I am sure allot of you will rite it off. But hopefully a few people will think a bit before you post.
mormegil
Reply #44 Friday, October 4, 2002 8:20 PM
Reply #44 Friday, October 4, 2002 8:20 PM
buy the way, I cant spell worth a dam, I should never re-read anything I post, how embarrassing. (And the is with IE Spell) 
Tarkus
Reply #45 Friday, October 4, 2002 8:47 PM
Reply #45 Friday, October 4, 2002 8:47 PM
I agree with most of what you said, Paul, but when you pay for something, I think it gives you the right to criticize it, when the product is not as good as you expect. Maybe you expect too much, but there is that saying that the customer is always right.
I try to keep my criticism in my back pocket around here, because I know even the worst skins are probably better than what I can do, and I see no point in hurting someone's feelings when they're giving an honest effort.
But again, this is a commercial package we're talking about, so I do think it's a bit different. That doesn't mean people can't be a bit more diplomatic, though.
I try to keep my criticism in my back pocket around here, because I know even the worst skins are probably better than what I can do, and I see no point in hurting someone's feelings when they're giving an honest effort.
But again, this is a commercial package we're talking about, so I do think it's a bit different. That doesn't mean people can't be a bit more diplomatic, though.
mormegil
Reply #46 Friday, October 4, 2002 9:12 PM
Reply #46 Friday, October 4, 2002 9:12 PM
That is my point, your comments were reasoned and well stated, That is my point.
Frogboy
Reply #47 Friday, October 4, 2002 9:16 PM
Reply #47 Friday, October 4, 2002 9:16 PM
Like I said, users will soon have the option to purchase premium suites.
But the Wincustomize suites are not meant to be compared to a full blown Pixtudio suite or something. *I* like the WindowBlinds skin and I like the icons.
For people who are primarily interested in paying for professionally created skin suites, that option will soon be available.
But the Wincustomize suites are not meant to be compared to a full blown Pixtudio suite or something. *I* like the WindowBlinds skin and I like the icons.
For people who are primarily interested in paying for professionally created skin suites, that option will soon be available.
bmetelsky
Reply #48 Friday, October 4, 2002 10:35 PM
Reply #48 Friday, October 4, 2002 10:35 PM
I would like to thank mormegil and alexandrie for the wonderful icon package and windowblind. I only use those two products currently and can't comment on the object bar. I am impressed by the work. BTW - I change the shade of the windowblind skin ever so slightly to suit my taste - a wonderful feature of wb 3.4. Thanks for that stardock!
kibble
Reply #49 Friday, October 4, 2002 11:44 PM
Reply #49 Friday, October 4, 2002 11:44 PM
I don't care what all these whinners are going on about. I found it very nice to see this site give a little back. I never expected it. I don't use the suite, but I dloaded, and had a look. I'd like to thank all that were involved in making it. Cause truth be known I can't draw a stick figure correctly
Keep up the good job Wincustomize!!!!
and I never normally comment
Keep up the good job Wincustomize!!!!
and I never normally comment
goodmorphing
Reply #50 Saturday, October 5, 2002 1:00 AM
Reply #50 Saturday, October 5, 2002 1:00 AM
Actually, I was coming back to say I am liking this skin more the more I use it. I also noted that the icons are more complete than I had been used to. Always there was one place here or there that would not accept an icon. But now, they are all skinned! I think the colors on the skin are rich (I always like it when some color that I would not have chosen myself seem so right!).
Oh... and mormegil? That is not bad spelling. It is "spelling outside of the box" or creative spelling. A lot of great thinkers have that problem. Don't let it bug you. You are eloquent.
Oh... and mormegil? That is not bad spelling. It is "spelling outside of the box" or creative spelling. A lot of great thinkers have that problem. Don't let it bug you. You are eloquent.
c242
Reply #51 Saturday, October 5, 2002 9:59 AM
Reply #51 Saturday, October 5, 2002 9:59 AM
'This is a commercial package' Hmm, is it ? I undertstood it more as a bonus for subscribers. And it's damn good as a bonus. The attitude behind this 'I paid 20 $ for 2 years and now give me everything !' is very similar to the other people wanting everything for free IMHO. Just an opinion of someone who likes his subscription-bonus very much.
Jafo
Reply #52 Saturday, October 5, 2002 11:25 AM
Reply #52 Saturday, October 5, 2002 11:25 AM
mormegil...pay me enough and I'll fix your spelling....
That's why they gave me this icon....
That's why they gave me this icon....
mormegil
Reply #53 Saturday, October 5, 2002 1:01 PM
Reply #53 Saturday, October 5, 2002 1:01 PM
Jafo, I think if I paid 1 cent per missspelling or typo I would be fileing for backrupcy in about a week. 
Tarkus
Reply #54 Saturday, October 5, 2002 8:18 PM
Reply #54 Saturday, October 5, 2002 8:18 PM
c242 -- If the only way to get it is to pay out the money, it's not a bonus. It's part of the package. Just like you're paying for those "free" Ginsu knives that come with your juicer.
davad70
Reply #55 Saturday, October 5, 2002 8:37 PM
Reply #55 Saturday, October 5, 2002 8:37 PM
The "Exclusive" suites are the only reason that I subscribed. I feel I contribute to the site already by submitting skins. I didn't think I would be, and now know that I'm not impressed with the Skinbrowser. However, I guess I was expecting something more along the lines of what Brad described as "Premium" suites. I absolutely love the WB skin that alexandrie did, but to call this a "Suite" (exclusive or premium) is a joke. A great WB skin, a variation of a free IP, a simple OB theme, and that mysteriously green wallpaper? If I would have known that what I really wanted was a "Premium" suite and not an "Exclusive" suite, I would have saved my money and used it to buy the real suite. Yes, I know I sound confused.
dan.wright
Reply #56 Sunday, October 6, 2002 10:31 AM
Reply #56 Sunday, October 6, 2002 10:31 AM
I guess I was under the same impression as c242. I paid $20 to help support the site, not for suites, be they "Exclusive" or "Premium". The fact that anything is provided for me, beyond SkinBrowser, as a subscriber is an added bonus (IMO). I don't have any artistic ability and don't have the time to start learning, so I'm just thankful for the Alexandrie's and treetog's of this wonderful skinning world.
Thanks to Stardock for providing a great service first of all, and secondly, thanks for giving us an app to use with it. Lastly, thanks for the excellent "set" of skins.
Thanks to Stardock for providing a great service first of all, and secondly, thanks for giving us an app to use with it. Lastly, thanks for the excellent "set" of skins.
Tarkus
Reply #57 Sunday, October 6, 2002 12:09 PM
Reply #57 Sunday, October 6, 2002 12:09 PM
How many of you who "paid $20 to help support the site" have made donations other than that $20? If you're only interested in supporting the site, why stop there?
messybuu
Reply #59 Sunday, October 6, 2002 3:14 PM
Reply #59 Sunday, October 6, 2002 3:14 PM
The "exclusive" suites are the only reason that I subscribed.
Personally, if I'm going to purchase a subscription for something such as suites, I'd wait until those suites are released before deciding whether or not I want them.
Personally, if I'm going to purchase a subscription for something such as suites, I'd wait until those suites are released before deciding whether or not I want them.
dan.wright
Reply #60 Sunday, October 6, 2002 4:01 PM
Reply #60 Sunday, October 6, 2002 4:01 PM
Personally I stopped there because, unfortunately, money doesn't just magically appear for me. I've only got so much to go around.
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Reply #41 Friday, October 4, 2002 6:32 PM
The screenshot is showing off the second RC of the WinCustomize Browser.
Why don't you charge more then?
Charging more money would keep more people from subscribing.
If you don't take pride in your work, don't do it.
Nobody enjoys having their work being called bad (unless it's ol' school slang), and will most likely be less eager to contribute their efforts to people if their efforts are not desired. Would you volunteer your services if they were unwanted?
I was just expecting a whole lot more from my WinCustomize subscription, and I'm getting a whole lot less.
With twenty dollars, you receive two exclusive suites, the WinCustomize browser, and the other upcoming features that are listed at https://www.wincustomize.org/index.asp?cmd=subscription. Two premium suites cost around twenty dollars alone.