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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 by jebro | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

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Wizard1956
Reply #1 Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:50 PM

I hate when that happens.

Philly0381
Reply #2 Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:55 PM

And it has been happening alot lately.

Heigar
Reply #3 Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:10 PM

More than I like it to.

jebro
Reply #4 Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:12 PM

Wizard1956
I hate when that happens.

 

I agree.  I'm also 7 hours ahead of you. Damn, again.    

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #5 Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:01 PM

Wha...??? You got PMT or something?

BoXXi
Reply #6 Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:07 PM

Damn it ALL, that's what I say!!!!

DrJBHL
Reply #7 Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:17 PM

...and double damn! 

Heigar
Reply #8 Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:34 PM

I triple Damn dare ya!

Lantec
Reply #9 Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:15 PM

did someone say dam........here's a classic......and true

 

    STATE OF MICHIGAN
    Reply to: GRAND RAPIDS DISTRICT OFFICE STATE OFFICE BUILDING 6TH FLOOR
    350 OTTAWA NW GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341
    JOHN ENGLER, Governor
    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
    HOLLISTER BUILDING, PO BOX 30473, LANSING MI 48909-7973
    INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mi
    RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director

    December 17, 1997

    CERTIFIED

    Mr. Ryan DeVries 2088 Dagget Pierson, MI 49339

    Dear Mr. DeVries:

    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, Sec. 20, Montcalm County

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no permits have been issued.

    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

   

    The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 1998.

    Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action, a penalty of $10,000 a day.

    We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.

    Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,

    David L. Price
    District Representative Land and Water Management Division

 

 

    Mr. Stephen Tvedten's Response

    

    Dear Mr. Price:
    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County

    Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response.

    First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan.

    I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. 

    While I did not pay for, nor authorize, their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

    As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request?

    If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

    My first concern is - aren't the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation?

    The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation - so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer.

    The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names. If you want the dam stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition - contact the dam beavers - but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable to read English) - be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights first.

    As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers - be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State - I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy, or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice!

    In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green, and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now.

    Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.

    In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem: bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.

    Sincerely,
    Stephen L. Tvedten

Wizard1956
Reply #10 Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:37 PM

Phoon
Reply #11 Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:58 PM

did someone say dam........here's a classic......and true

that shit was dam funny!

loukeeya
Reply #12 Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:01 PM

damn........as in damnation? damnable? or damnationish?  

CarGuy1
Reply #13 Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:29 PM

Lantec, thanks... you made my dam day.

PoSmedley
Reply #14 Friday, February 19, 2010 7:57 PM

I have a slight problem with profanity and the frequency with which it seems to spill from my mouth in short bursts or most often as every third or fourth word in a conversation. The real problem is how much I love it and admire those that can use it well.

However, my 'problem' is pointed out, highlighted, or brought to my attention quite frequently because of the tender young ears around my house. Now, I know damn darn well that the boy, now a young man of 14, is using it at school and on the web. AT his age, he has yet to discover how it's how it's used and not how often it is used that makes it 'funny', which is why 14 year old boys use it. Oh, and to be cool. Heaven knows, he has to be cool.

I have had to be more creative. I don't sit and plan what I will say, but I have gotten pretty good at catching myslef before the word comes out and stifeling it. It's the runs, the phrases that have been difficult. I read somewhere that is you use a word three times a day for a week it becoames your word. I'm a little bit of a quicker study, and certain words and phrases tend to stick a little quicker with me.

I am stuck with one that seems to be quite amusing to the folks that hear it. Either because they know what I mean to say or because they know what I am doing when saying it, which is basically stifle my natural tendency to let lose with some choice words.

Son of a butt monkey.

It just rols off my tongue anymore like 'I'll have the number value meal with cheeses and a coke.'

My employees lose it when I say it.

My boss has assured me I will not offend him if I use the proper terminology.

The boy thinks it's hysterical.

My three year old daughter just laughs and points at me and says 'No! YOU'RE a butt-monkey!'

Son of a butt monkey.

ImStein
Reply #15 Friday, February 19, 2010 9:33 PM

 

 

I am so sorry, but (butt?) that is just classic. It's like me saying..."You're driving me nuckin' futs!!!" to my 19 year old. She just laughs at me, and walks away. Damn!

jebro
Reply #16 Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:22 PM

Fuzzy Logic
Wha...??? You got PMT or something?

 

What is PMT?  This?  

 

The reason for my inappropriate outburst was that it was my birthday and I didn't liked it at all. At my age, you really wish the time would stand still. Very still...

 

 

 

 

jebro
Reply #17 Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:23 PM

Lantec
did someone say dam........here's a classic......and true

 

    STATE OF MICHIGAN
    Reply to: GRAND RAPIDS DISTRICT OFFICE STATE OFFICE BUILDING 6TH FLOOR
    350 OTTAWA NW GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341
    JOHN ENGLER, Governor
    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
    HOLLISTER BUILDING, PO BOX 30473, LANSING MI 48909-7973
    INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mi
    RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director

    December 17, 1997

    CERTIFIED

    Mr. Ryan DeVries 2088 Dagget Pierson, MI 49339

    Dear Mr. DeVries:

    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, Sec. 20, Montcalm County

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no permits have been issued.

    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

   

    The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 1998.

    Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action, a penalty of $10,000 a day.

    We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.

    Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,

    David L. Price
    District Representative Land and Water Management Division



 

 

    Mr. Stephen Tvedten's Response

    

    Dear Mr. Price:
    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County

    Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response.

    First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan.

    I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. 

    While I did not pay for, nor authorize, their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

    As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request?

    If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

    My first concern is - aren't the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation?

    The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation - so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer.

    The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names. If you want the dam stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition - contact the dam beavers - but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable to read English) - be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights first.

    As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers - be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State - I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy, or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice!

    In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green, and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now.

    Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.

    In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem: bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.

    Sincerely,
    Stephen L. Tvedten

 

 

Smile...

jebro
Reply #18 Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:24 PM

double post.

Philly0381
Reply #19 Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:26 PM




Quoting Fuzzy Logic,
reply 5
Wha...??? You got PMT or something?


 

What is PMT?  This?  


 

The reson for my inappropriate outburst was that it was my birthday and I didn't liked it at all. At my age, you really wish the time would stand still. Very still...

 

 

 

 

If you feel that way at 55 just wait till you get to 61. 

jebro
Reply #20 Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:30 PM

Philly 0381, I will never get older than 45. Dead or alive... 

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