Moment of silence
Tuesday, September 11, 2001 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
Please give a moment of silence for the victims of the the cowardly terrorists.
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mediafly
Reply #62 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 PM
Reply #62 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:36 PM
like i said.... no genius
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mediafly
Reply #63 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:40 PM
Reply #63 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:40 PM
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jparrott
Reply #64 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:53 PM
Reply #64 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:53 PM
As a former (9.5 years) Navy puke and a dependent of a (23.5 years) Air Force Officer, I would like to say that maybe now the US will recognize that their Military deserves respect, and should take pride in them. I've watched for years as liberals cut, and cut and cut benefits and positions to "scale down".
'A strong offense is the best defense'. When we again show ourselves as a strong united nation, we will see the terrorists as less of a threat. During and through WWI and WWII, Americans pulled together, and showed their resolve. Why is it that it takes a catastrophic event to re-unite us?
Thoughts for you to peruse..
JP
'A strong offense is the best defense'. When we again show ourselves as a strong united nation, we will see the terrorists as less of a threat. During and through WWI and WWII, Americans pulled together, and showed their resolve. Why is it that it takes a catastrophic event to re-unite us?
Thoughts for you to peruse..
JP
GreenReaper
Reply #65 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:09 AM
Reply #65 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:09 AM
So . . . what good would a bigger military have done, exactly? Could the US Army have prevented this? Or the Navy? Would they have detected the terrorists before they acted? Sure, it could mean a faster and bigger retaliation - but nobody seems to know who did it for sure yet, and maybe they never will.
The only thing I can see that *might* have helped stop this before it happened would be a better intelligence service. But even then, there are limits. Already, it's not really possible to increase security beyond what is current without inconveniencing a lot of people, or costing a *lot* of money (and airlines aren't going to pay - most of them are almost broke).
It may be that the risk of this is one of the costs of having such a free society. If so, the only way to stop it happening again would be by making everyone in the world like America and it's people enough they wouldn't want to attack or by taking decisive action against the people who really don't like the US, *before* they make their move. And to do that, you need to know who they are, not that you can blow them up if they tell you.
The only thing I can see that *might* have helped stop this before it happened would be a better intelligence service. But even then, there are limits. Already, it's not really possible to increase security beyond what is current without inconveniencing a lot of people, or costing a *lot* of money (and airlines aren't going to pay - most of them are almost broke).
It may be that the risk of this is one of the costs of having such a free society. If so, the only way to stop it happening again would be by making everyone in the world like America and it's people enough they wouldn't want to attack or by taking decisive action against the people who really don't like the US, *before* they make their move. And to do that, you need to know who they are, not that you can blow them up if they tell you.
jparrott
Reply #66 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:23 AM
Reply #66 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:23 AM
GreenReaper,
By no means were my comments to suggest that a stronger military would have prevented this, terrorism is terrorism-unpredicatable. However, passive response often begets more aggression. We have been (in the US) a passive nation for many years, as we think of ourselves as the 'holier-than-thou' keepers of civil liberties.
If we had been more of a nation of 'lets all be one and like everyone else' we would never have become an independent nation (from England) in the first place.
Might and power are often very unpleasant topics, but it is the law of nature (or the 'circle of life' if you prefer) that the strongest will and most often do survive.
If the threat of military offensive actions were greater, perhaps the terrorists behind this would have thought twice - or perhaps the country harboring them would have thought twice, about harboring them. If a bully picks a fight with you in the school yard (as I teach my kids), you should walk away. If he follows you home, you do your best to avoid a fight. When he attacks you, you defend yourself. If it happens all over again the next day, you attempt to beat the crap out of him. At some point it becomes do-or-die, and you must fight back.
JP
By no means were my comments to suggest that a stronger military would have prevented this, terrorism is terrorism-unpredicatable. However, passive response often begets more aggression. We have been (in the US) a passive nation for many years, as we think of ourselves as the 'holier-than-thou' keepers of civil liberties.
If we had been more of a nation of 'lets all be one and like everyone else' we would never have become an independent nation (from England) in the first place.
Might and power are often very unpleasant topics, but it is the law of nature (or the 'circle of life' if you prefer) that the strongest will and most often do survive.
If the threat of military offensive actions were greater, perhaps the terrorists behind this would have thought twice - or perhaps the country harboring them would have thought twice, about harboring them. If a bully picks a fight with you in the school yard (as I teach my kids), you should walk away. If he follows you home, you do your best to avoid a fight. When he attacks you, you defend yourself. If it happens all over again the next day, you attempt to beat the crap out of him. At some point it becomes do-or-die, and you must fight back.
JP
Amerasu
Reply #67 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:38 AM
Reply #67 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:38 AM
There are no words which can convey meaning enough to comfort or relieve those affected during dark times such as these, but I know that because there are shadows there must also be a light.
Let us be a light for one another.
Let us be a light for one another.
Summer Jelly
Reply #68 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:40 AM
Reply #68 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:40 AM
It is very sad to hear the sudden attack toward the WTC and the Pentagon. I give my deepest sympathy and prayers to the victims and their families. May God Bless Them.
Chimpy Pimpy
Reply #69 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:25 AM
Reply #69 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:25 AM
The worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Shock, disbelief, horror, outrage. I hope I never see anything this awful ever again. God help the victims. The world has been changed forever. God help us all.
This Canadian supports the United States 100% and any action they deem necessary.
God Bless America
This Canadian supports the United States 100% and any action they deem necessary.
God Bless America
Einstein
Reply #70 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:30 AM
Reply #70 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:30 AM
I was laid-off 2 months ago from a company that had offices in the WTC. Due to more down-sizing, they moved from those offices. Who ever thought that being let go would save your life?
But on a sad note. I spoke with my former boss today. She said that the company did have a small training meeting scheduled for today on the 106th floor. Some one in the local office spoke with a woman just after the first plane hit. She said that everyone would get out and call back. No one heard from them again.
It has been said that everyone knows someone that was impacted from today's events. In fact the whole world has been impacted. No one did anything back in 1993 when the bomb went off in the parking garage. It was "let's get back to business as usual." We see results of that decision.
"If you want peace, you must prepare for war." That may sound like backwards logic, but it is the only way to truly live. Or in other words, "The needs of the many out-weigh the needs of the few." Our servicemen need to be supported for the work they do. They give up a lot to make sure their country can continue to enjoy peace. It is exactly because they had so many cuts that Terrorism has been allowed to fester and grow like a cancer on the world.
In all this tradegy, unsung heros are being created. I applaud the staff of Stardock for DOING something positive. We should all do something that helps. That is the real power of America. That is the real power of any country hit by terrorism.
My prayers are with the vicitims (that is all of us too). May God grant us peace through positive personal action. (If not you, then who?)
But on a sad note. I spoke with my former boss today. She said that the company did have a small training meeting scheduled for today on the 106th floor. Some one in the local office spoke with a woman just after the first plane hit. She said that everyone would get out and call back. No one heard from them again.
It has been said that everyone knows someone that was impacted from today's events. In fact the whole world has been impacted. No one did anything back in 1993 when the bomb went off in the parking garage. It was "let's get back to business as usual." We see results of that decision.
"If you want peace, you must prepare for war." That may sound like backwards logic, but it is the only way to truly live. Or in other words, "The needs of the many out-weigh the needs of the few." Our servicemen need to be supported for the work they do. They give up a lot to make sure their country can continue to enjoy peace. It is exactly because they had so many cuts that Terrorism has been allowed to fester and grow like a cancer on the world.
In all this tradegy, unsung heros are being created. I applaud the staff of Stardock for DOING something positive. We should all do something that helps. That is the real power of America. That is the real power of any country hit by terrorism.
My prayers are with the vicitims (that is all of us too). May God grant us peace through positive personal action. (If not you, then who?)
jparrott
Reply #71 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:51 AM
Reply #71 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:51 AM
I'd like to add one more comment. If any of you US servicemen or women are out and about in my town (and Police/Fire/EMT off duty)(Anchorage, AK) in dress Uniform, and I see you - I'll be happy to buy you a drink!
JP
JP
Kdub
Reply #72 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:21 AM
Reply #72 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:21 AM
First of all, my deepest condolences to anyone who may be a victim of this horrifying incident.
Well, I think no matter where you are in the world you have a lot to think about, especially if your country is allied to America. I know my country [Australia] is and altohugh we're not directly affected, we are certainly obliged to be involved if there is a conflict. That puts us directly in danger. I just hope Bush is rational about the whole incident, personally i don't trust the guy, but i guess we'll all just have to wait and see.
Shit everything looks so different since i saw that report last night....
Well, I think no matter where you are in the world you have a lot to think about, especially if your country is allied to America. I know my country [Australia] is and altohugh we're not directly affected, we are certainly obliged to be involved if there is a conflict. That puts us directly in danger. I just hope Bush is rational about the whole incident, personally i don't trust the guy, but i guess we'll all just have to wait and see.
Shit everything looks so different since i saw that report last night....
Endymion
Reply #73 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:20 AM
Reply #73 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:20 AM
I would like to send my deepest condolences to the people injured and died in that TRAGIC accident. Even as I watch the news from the Philippines, I'm deeply in shock. I'm a Filipino, but I could feel the intense emotions people had experienced. I believe the whole world (except for those bullshitting cowards) is in deep sympathy with the American people.
I wish that will be the last time. I wish the terrorism should be put to halt. This is unbearable.
I wish that will be the last time. I wish the terrorism should be put to halt. This is unbearable.
Bleet0729
Reply #74 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:26 AM
Reply #74 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:26 AM
OMG!!!!! mediafly, that is some super-trippy sh#t going on there - I urge ppl to go read the thread. Here's an updated link, just make sure you start from the original post by "Xinoehpoel"
not sure how to post links here, but try:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=3B9EA882.BAC95C4A%40hotmail.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26rnum%3D10%26selm%3D8264f396.0109111411.6a8f8275%2540posting.google.com&as_drrb=b&as_maxd=10&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2001&as_mind=29&as_minm=3&as_miny=1995
not sure how to post links here, but try:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=3B9EA882.BAC95C4A%40hotmail.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26rnum%3D10%26selm%3D8264f396.0109111411.6a8f8275%2540posting.google.com&as_drrb=b&as_maxd=10&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2001&as_mind=29&as_minm=3&as_miny=1995
Ydnar
Reply #75 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:25 AM
Reply #75 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:25 AM
By no means do I intend to minimize the tragedy that happened... but I am thankful for one thing... that there were no nuclear weapons involved...
submarine
Reply #76 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:45 AM
Reply #76 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:45 AM
are the responsibles human? Please God punish these unknown disgusting species of human! Clean the world from terorists!
Carlitus
Reply #77 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:09 PM
Reply #77 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:09 PM
The terrorism: Action to inculcate TERROR to the people, with the use of the weapons. In Spain there's the terrorism more 30 years ago (The ETA gang -Euskadi ta Askatasuna- basque independentists) somilar to IRA. At 11years, i see in life the chaos in Barcelona (a commercial area crashes by ETA). At may 1991, ETA shots again, but in my citty Vic (Barcelona). LOTS OF PEOPLE KILLED. Is horrendous, Vic is a paciffic city. The terrorist (persons that don't have heart) was broken the heart of all Vic cittizens (also catalonian and spanish peopple; the terrorist can reach any destiny, all the peopple are under the bombs!!!! Misery. I'm also a paciffic person, yes, but the week after the strike, I (also all the peopple) only think this: Death to the terrorist. I don't want to explain the destiny of the Vic terrorists (killed by the spanish police -oops!-).
Other notice: 11 september, is the Catalonia National Day. It remembers the loose of the Catalonia independence. You can wish something, yes, but not in this way...
The tears are bitter, i know this case. My solidarity to thousands and thousands american peopple
Other notice: 11 september, is the Catalonia National Day. It remembers the loose of the Catalonia independence. You can wish something, yes, but not in this way...
The tears are bitter, i know this case. My solidarity to thousands and thousands american peopple
FlyEr
Reply #78 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:58 PM
Reply #78 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:58 PM
Wow... That post by Xinoehpoel is so freaky... On September 4th, he wrote, "Wait 7 days, and then maybe I'll answer this post. You see, I am going away in seven days, and you will not hear from me again." Precisely seven days before... Coincidence? Earlier, he was forecasting death and destruction, and then he says he'll be gone in a week's time... Hrm... 
FlyEr
Reply #79 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:38 PM
Reply #79 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:38 PM
Clarification: From the links on the newsgroups...
mecwearer
Reply #80 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:21 PM
Reply #80 Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:21 PM
The thoughts and prayers of all Canadians are with our American brothers and sisters during this time of sorrow and loss...God bless you all...
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Reply #61 Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:33 PM
Go Read
I'm no genius at this stuff so I am just hoping this link works properly.