Wincustomize.com Promotions

How They Work And Why. A History.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 by Jafo | Discussion: Community

 

from Patrick Ford
Wincustomize Access    5/06/2001 2.54am
Hi Jafo,

Just letting you know that the admins at WinCustomize have voted to raise
your access to Master (Congratulations).  Just so  you are aware you will
need to log off and log back on again in order for your access level to be
properly updated.

Sincerely,
Patrick Ford (T-Man)
 
When Wincustomize.com was founded following the untimely demise of skinz.org at the hands of eFront in early 2001, Frogboy [and several others] had seen the need for a more stable foundation for the skinning Community, a group who had been constantly disrupted by closures/failures of the then 4 or 5 major public skinning sites.

The first skinning-specific site to come online was Customize.org....which went offline for almost a year to redefine/renew itself.  Deskmod suffered what was described as a catastrophic database loss.  Deviantart was new and promising, under the direction of Jark but the focus was more than skinning and ultimately skinning was quite 'secondary' to the more established Art forms/media.  The alternate shell [Litestep] sites were lucky to be up from one week to the next, and finally skinz.org ....fell victim to a dot-com advertising on-seller whose ethics were publicly shown to be far less than ideal [though it was entertaining].  There were [and still are] smaller sites devoted to skinning, however their 'market reach/penetration' was, and still is quite small.

Thankfully [for us all] Stardock/Frogboy came to the rescue and Wincustomize.com was born.  She has since proven over the following 8 years to have underlined a new standard in longevity and reliability.  Skinning's Community now had a place it could call HOME.
Being a Community site, IE a site for both skinners and users alike, it was a bold move on Stardock's part to engage in what some detractors saw as 'elitism' but what we know now as the "Wincustomize Promotions".

A site such as Wincustomize is not going to be the same thing to/for everyone.  Some will see it as the staging ground showroom for their craft [skins] whilst others will be involved only to access/download whatever others have offered for download.
Different degrees of involvement really meant that not everyone really was/is created equal, not in the microcosm that is skinning's Wincustomize, so User Levels were set up.
Citizen, Apprentice, Master Apprentice, Journeyman, and Master.

There are others, eg. Exiled, Visitor, Wizop, and Admin, however they are more to do with the 'running' of the site.

Currently there are around 3.8 Million  people who have registered with Stardock/Wincustomize and [as was always intended/expected] the vast majority are 'Citizens'.

So.  How does one get beyond that basic User Level?

Involvement.  [yep, simple as that].

Many [most] people will see and use the site as a resource, downloading content to improve/alter the appearance of their systems.....

....but others will get the itch to maybe look under the hood and find out how to do it all themselves.  They may hop onto the forum/s with a query....and just never leave.
In the end their nick becomes commonly noticed [hopefully in a good way] and the site Admins/Wizops will propose them for advancement. Once this process has repeated itself a few times a User can find himself promoted to 'Master'.

What is naturally expected from this process is that each subsequent level achieved is reflected by a similarly elevated attitude/devotion towards Wincustomize and its Community, so much so that fairly recently [in the site's history] it was considered only appropriate that the Dedication of the Masters towards the site be rewarded with an opportunity to benefit commercially via the Master Skin sales.
By and large this whole process has been shown to be quite successful.  There is almost never a 'reversal' of promotion [such would be an indication of poor judgement on our part].

So, what does all this mean to the casual/new User?

When someone first comes to the site he/she may find "Journeyman Jones" to be a quaint/odd affectation.... but will soon be aware that these senior levels is where one is likely to get the 'best' guidance within the skinning [and Community] environment, as it's not about User ID Numbers [being low] but more about User Ranking [a truer reflection of Community/site
 involvement/interaction].

Yes, old/founding site members [UserIDs in the teens] may still be at Citizen level....and 'new' members with UserIDs in the three-millions may be Masters already, as it is all about what you do, not about how long you have done it.

So...."How do I get promoted?  I want to sell my skins one day"

Well...asking won't help, as won't becoming an Admin/Wizop groupie....

All you need to do is show a committment to skinning, and a respect and appreciation for all your fellow skinners/enthusiasts/users....
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Jafo
Reply #1 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:49 PM

please excuse formatting...[or lack of]....I blame my sore thumb....though it's likely the site's fault...


LightStar
Reply #2 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:52 PM

Well stated jafo! 


CarGuy1
Reply #3 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:42 PM

Great post !


Wizard1956
Reply #4 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:47 PM

Great bit of history. So who was the first Master?


Vampothika
Reply #5 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:11 PM

great post, its also good to know that only the mods do the promoting, (no one else ) and those that are masters, are masters due to their hard work, and posative attitude in supporting stardock. Ill always be a fan of stardock and support it in any direction it turns... its a great place to come and exibit my art.


gooberbean28
Reply #6 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:18 PM

Very informative post Jafo! And I would like to know too, who was the first Master Skinner?


Jafo
Reply #7 Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:24 PM

So who was the first Master?

I'm going to have to chase that one up....but my guess would be treetog .....


k10w3
Reply #8 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:37 AM

What I want to know is where have all the old masters gone?  VStyler seems to be the oldest master (held the title the longest...not that he's old) still creating skins.  We've had some new masters lately, and I wait in anticipation to see what they'll produce; I just wonder what happened to the ones before vStyler?


Littleboy
Reply #9 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:53 AM

Great post Jafo

k10w3: essorant and MikeB314 have master skins just a few weeks old, so there are elder masters still sharing skins. Some of the old ones also went to work for Stardock Design, so even though you don't see their names anymore, they are still producing skins.


willistuder
Reply #10 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:54 AM

I enjoyed reading it.


Vampothika
Reply #11 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:15 AM

ill be uploading my new master skin in a few weeks.......   there are some wikked masters around, here are the ones i know of:

boxxi

treetog

mikeb

starone

essorant

irbrainiac

20f3

there are probably heaps more, but im thinking of wb skinners.......


BoXXi
Reply #12 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:43 AM

I believe that a few of us were promoted to master level at around the same time.  The first ones were Treetog, MikeB314, Essorant and me, I think. I was also a Wizop/Mod here for a long time too, which was fun for most of the time!

I've been skinning more or less constantly since 1998, and I still enjoy creating stuff. I don't think I'll ever stop, and who knows, one day I might even sell a skin!!


Vampothika
Reply #13 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:36 AM

there ya go karen, one of the original masters has spoken!!!


PoSmedley
Reply #14 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:52 AM

one of the original masters has spoken!!

Yeah, but he isn't talking to me.

WHich is fine. Just fine. Two can play that. Yup.


natas2
Reply #15 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:04 AM

there are some wikked masters around, here are the ones i know of:

boxxi

treetog

mikeb

starone

essorant

irbrainiac

20f3

there are probably heaps more, but im thinking of wb skinners.......

You don't know of vStyler and yourself?


vStyler
Reply #16 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:13 AM

Yeah, but he isn't talking to me.

WHich is fine. Just fine. Two can play that. Yup.


Mirsguy
Reply #17 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:01 AM

This was a good read. Thanks!


WOM
Reply #18 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:22 AM

Also, the number of uploads or downloads has no bearing on who gets promoted.  Remember, what goes up can come down.


CarGuy1
Reply #19 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:38 AM

Also, the number of uploads or downloads has no bearing on who gets promoted. Remember, what goes up can come down.

I would assume that it would be a rare circumstance for someone to be demoted. Has it ever happened?

 


Snowman
Reply #20 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:50 AM

CarGuy1
reply 19

I would assume that it would be a rare circumstance for someone to be demoted. Has it ever happened?
 

No, not yet...

 

Edit: well, I've just been corrected by a fellow mod. We have demoted one user (Journeyman) once, for 1 month, and re-promoted again.


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