More folks should watch Beck, this administration is really going way too far in a lot of different ways.

I will admit that you can find thing on these programs that will surprise and startle you, not to be confused with actuall news reporting.

So you are saying this isn't true?

Anyone here care to go to the site mentioned and see for yourself? I think I'll pass.

God I hate Fox News. Don't worry. I hate MSNBC too. News networks that have to give startling enough points to bring in ratings so they can make money off of ads. If you siphon through all of the news networks you can figure out the facts, but I prefer to use this thing called a newspaper.

Wizard, never said that. 

I too wasn't willing to go to the Government site to fine out.

I was just making a comment that all these style of programs are hosted by folks that do indeed have an agenda, no matter what side they come from.  My personal opinion, they should never be confused with News reporting.  Do I watch them, I catch parts of a lot of them, some of the more entertaining stuff out there.  I don't like reality programs.

Do I know whether or not what was said was true, no I don't, but I have my opinion.

Its not all about ratings my friend and if your newspaper isn't bringing you these 'facts' perhaps you should rethink where your getting your information.

its FACT... its right there on the govt. website.. no one is making it up.

Everyone in every sector of life has an agenda, no excuse not to take notice of what is in plain sight. Glenn Beck goes to great lengths to look out for 'the people' I firmly believe that.

Watch his show for a week, you may change your opinion.

You want me to watch it for a whole week!  I would probably start pulling my hair out and want to go postal on everyone.  Just joking. 

I attempt to watch his program and most of the others because every once in a while some meaningfull information or content shows up.  At my age, old,  I'm really not interested in hearing 'the sides' attack each other.  It's about time the people realize that we are all affected by the problems at hand, act as one, lets call it being Americans, fix what needs fixing and move on. 

Basically, what I'm saying is that we have all, in some way screwed up things, either by our action or non-action.  Lets face it, us Humans have spendt alot of time and effort getting to a place that no one likes. 

Think about it.

EDIT:  I apoligize for taking this thread off subject

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/automobiles/a/cash_for_clunkers.htm

Okay Maxpower179 clicked on your link and what I gathered from it that is this sistuation would happen to those who visited the site, which I also gather would have been the car dealerships.  I never knew about the site until Beck's program. 

Had the site been posted somewhere that people who were wanting to use thier old car on a trade in would have seen it and went to it?  I know cash for clunkers has been in TV ads for new cars but have not seen the site mentioned. 

I'm just wondering how this affected more than the car dealerships, not saying it was right for the Gov to take over a computer.

Or how about a government encroaching on the rights of the individual with a program of pervasive goverment surveilance and control. Hmm.....which is more of a concern.

O, wait. That's right. Cheney's not Vice-President anymore.

Not sure if this story is related to this subject or not. 

 http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/SaveonaCar/clunker-traffic-jam-angers-dealers.aspx

 ROFLMAO!  Those of you who are shocked at the (alleged) Obama administrations over-reaching powers to take information off your computer with cash for clunkers, are the same group of individuals who weren't at ALL shocked, and were completely willing to turn over your privacy rights when George Bush (SECRETLY!!) instructed the NSA to perform data mining on domestic telephone records!  

Agenda?  HECK YEAH, there's an agenda!  I'm going to say it again - as long as those in power can keep us bickering back and forth on (supposed) opposites party sides about stuff that will never touch our lives personally, WE will remain powerless while the power overlords continue to reign and laugh at how easily we're duped!

Glen Beck might as well be wearing a jester hat and juggling ping pong balls, because he's SIMPLE ENTERTAINMENT, for those whose minds like the sort of entertainment he's providing.  It sure the heck ISN'T NEWS, and it is extremely lucrative for Blech--I mean Beck.

I prefer to get my thinly-disguised entertainment veiled as news from a less-thinly disguised source, due to the fact that the laughs are more genuine.

No healthcare system is worth a damn, anywhere, but this country is most assuredly one of the best.

It can be the best and not be .. that great... we do need healthcare reform, as does everyone else just not in the manner the Obama doctrine is prescribing it.

As far as privacy intrusion, the Bush admin. might have stepped over a few lines, I agree, but nothing.. NOTHING compared to what the liberal left (who is runnning this country now) wants to do.

Open your eyes folks.

Beck has forgotten more about the constitution than Stewart will ever know.

Once again, speculation and sensationalism.  The liberal left is not nearly as organized or goal-oriented as the conservative right!  And THIS is the curse of guilty -- not that they get caught but that they have to assume their enemy uses the same tactics they do -- the left (the permissive, do-as-thou-wilt, get high, have sex, get an abortion if you want one, marry whomever or whatever you want to, left) doesn't give a rat's @ss about what you do in private!  Why would they?  They're totally upfront about their gayness, and their promiscuity, and the fact that IF they worship a god at all, it certainly isn't the Daddy God that the conservative right does -- the one that judges and punishes an entire Nation based on the actions of a few individuals who interpret scripture much more abstractly than Daddy God, but the God they might worship is Hippie Jesus -- the Jesus who forgives those who sin, and pals around with prostitutes and other low lifes, which ended up in his alleged crucifixion.

Apply some logic to this issue, John!  Why would the LIBERAL left care what's on your computer?  They want to let you do anything you want as long as you don't hurt somebody else doing it!  That's why they call them LIBERAL!

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/18/glenn-beck-boycott-censorship-or-good-citizenship/?sem=1&ncid=searchnew00000004&otim=1250796794&spid=33521368

Just joining in...lol.

Yeah thats why they tried to CRAM it thru before the break, cmon, this admin has more of a pre-meditated doctrine than any in history... problem is.. its FAILING.

One term President.. I will personally gaurantee you that. This country isn't going to tolerate the enormous amount of bs being thrown our way.

Its unfortunate that folks weren't smart enough to see this all coming before they voted for the biggest political mistake in American history.

I'm not even saying that the other party was doing much better, but what is going on in this country right now is almost comical.

As far as Beck goes, he may be a bit theatrical but he's one smart clown.

It seems that the subject has expanded to talking about just what is being down or has been accomplished by whom.

I'd like to go back to what I said in a previous reply,

If we all could just do that one simple thing just think about all the time we would have on our hands to start enjoying life as it was meant to be.

Term limits are all ready in place, I believe they are call elections.  I do understand though that is is very hard to get the voters to react in a manor so that a real change can be made.  Did I just type that, sounds like some politicians promise.

Funny OP. Thank G-d I'm no car dealer.

I'm trying desperately to learn how to skin "death panels"....are they oak? Cherry? Pine (as in box)? I figure OD+ for the quick, and OD- for the...well, not so quick.

If I figger a way to do it, will I be a dock doc? Or a Master Mortician? Maybe a Dermatologist or Plastic/Reconstructive Surgeon (Professional Skinner)?

I've even figgered a new Federal Program which I'll administer for a reasonable fee:

Since many medical problems (Diabetes, Hypertension, Hyperlipdemia, Heart Disease, Stroke and Unfashionable/Unaccessorizable clothing) are caused by  O B E S I T Y  I have proposed a bailout of sorts, a rebate on fat: $1,000 for every 50 pounds lost. I'm calling it "Cash for Chunkers", and I've almost got the Surgeon General sold on it.

O.K. Enough attempts at humor. The election (whether you like the results or not) has been over for some time, and the results are what they are. Time to accept it, work together and stop saying no to everything just to be obstructionist. I'm really getting sick and tired of that anal retentive (and in some cases expressive) "I'll never give in and admit it." stuff. This is a country where we learned to compromise. If we can't do that, and can only play 'gotcha' and obstruct each other, why bother?

@Philly: Right On!