Michael Jackson Dead at 50
Thursday, June 25, 2009 by mrs_starkers | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Sad news another muso passed away, Michael Jackson died at 50. he was in a coma and could not be revived.
Pop legend Michael Jackson is reported to have died of a heart attack after he was rushed to hospital in Los Angeles.
The entertainment TMZ website reports Jackson suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon and paramedics were unable to revive him.
RIP Michael
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Reply #82 Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:10 PM
Excalpius....When one realizes he/she was not 'guilty', and not 'deserving' of violence, then he/she can let go of the anger, directed towards ones self which presents as comorbid Depression/Anxiety. When one comes to forgive violence done to ones self when in a position of relative helplessness, one can proceed with life and find joy.
And sometimes witnessing justice/revenge releases a bunch of endorphins in the brains of the angry, making that whole need for forgiveness unnecessary. I refuse to play Zen master when it comes to ChiMos.
The crime is horrendous...not the issue. No argument. The anger/rage only hurts you. That is the issue. The molester? Let the courts take care of him.
@starkers: Indeed.
Reply #83 Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:30 PM
"Let the courts take care of him."
Normally, I would agree with you 100%, but we've seen a number of cases over the years where fame has blindsided justice...Mr. Jackson being one of them.
"When one comes to forgive violence done to ones self when in a position of relative helplessness, one can proceed with life and find joy."
For some traumas, this is indeed possible. However, science has shown that some PTSD and similar severe situations of systemic abuse actually can cause lasting physical damage to the brain.
This is why, in some severe cases, the cycle of abuse lasts for generations. Only external intervention can bring peace, and not necessarily for the present victim, but only for their children and loved ones.
IMHO, Mr. Jackson's money and fame acted as a terrible wall. While it protected him from legal punishments for his darkest actions, it also walled him off from the kind of psychological help he clearly needed for decades. If he had not been so rich and famous, his actions might have gotten treatment a very long time ago. That could have saved himself, and many others, from a great deal of pain.
It's also why this nation was founded on the principle that no man is above the law, whether by power, celebrity, or wealth.
Reply #84 Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:16 PM
I understand if I get flamed and I don't blame you but he was a child in a man's body. One could see it as playing DR more than molestation.
Reply #85 Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:26 PM
The anger/rage only hurts you. That is the issue.
This is what I'm hearing when I read this: "Your emotions aren't valid if they are of the negative variety."
All things have a season. The anger/rage subsides when their season comes. You can't rush it to harvest anymore than you can make a plant in your garden produce fruit before it's time. Besides, anger/rage can be a very motivating force. I've totally redecorated my house riding that wave until it subsided.
Reply #86 Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:30 PM
So, we should just excuse anybody whose ladder doesn't go all the way to the top? I realize that what you're saying is that his intent wasn't malicious, but that doesn't mean people didn't get hurt. If I accidentally kill someone, I still have to face the consequences for that.
Reply #87 Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:19 PM
In agreement with Vamp...I deleted what I posted.
RIP Michael!
Reply #88 Monday, June 29, 2009 3:17 AM
i wish people would just "respect" the posters wishes and what she wanted this post to be about......
Reply #89 Monday, June 29, 2009 4:24 AM
Thank you kitty 
Reply #90 Monday, June 29, 2009 4:49 AM
seems to me everyone has an opinion on whether or not MJ was guilty. Well unless you were actually there and saw him do the things he was accused off then those people can keep their opinions to themselves. He was found not guilty. He MAY have paid off the families or he MAY not have.Dont forget that a jury of 12 people heard all the testimony and then came to a not guilty decision and i think they had access to far more facts than we heard in the so called free press (most of which was sensationalized in order to sell copy). but as we were not privy to any "meetings" MJ may have had with the families of the alleged affected boys then i suggest we concentrate on the fact that MJ was one of the most important musicians of our time and let the man rest in peace. Say a prayer for his children.
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Reply #81 Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:44 PM
Excalpius....When one realizes he/she was not 'guilty', and not 'deserving' of violence, then he/she can let go of the anger, directed towards ones self which presents as comorbid Depression/Anxiety. When one comes to forgive violence done to ones self when in a position of relative helplessness, one can proceed with life and find joy.
And sometimes witnessing justice/revenge releases a bunch of endorphins in the brains of the angry, making that whole need for forgiveness unnecessary. I refuse to play Zen master when it comes to ChiMos.